Re: Rafale Details
by human on Nov 22, 2018 06:54 PM
Our Present govt is doing overtime so we dont need any war, and they will do the needful..i.e. what war could have done they are doing without actual War.
Re: The UN-Real loss also must be exposed....
by human on Nov 22, 2018 06:56 PM
As per 2014 declaration by Chowkkkidar Vadaaaraaa was Chhhhooor, still he is roaming free..Any Guess.. Why?
Who stopped UPA from signing the deal? They sat on it for nearly 8 years. AK Antony as defense minister did not procure a single fighter jet for 10 years while our 1970s and 1980s MIGs and Jaguars kept crashing at the rate of 1 dozen per year. Our squadron strength came down from 39-40 to 34-35 due to UPA indecisiveness in clinching a deal.
Does it matter if the then Govt. took years and then not conclude its contract within their term? 10 years is insignificant for the Congress because it has ruled for the major period and felt certain that it would come back to power. But the electorate thought it otherwise. With the depleting force and the enemy upgrading , the Congress thought it fine and fit to conclude the deal after elections but was let down by the electorate.
Indias most corrupt PM yet, labours to hide the massive scam in the Rafale deal piloted by him, the more skeletons keep tumbling out from his cupboard !
And Modi is now reduced to spending nearly all his time manoeuvring people to sabotage the institutions of the CBI, the CVC, the CIC and the CAG to try and hide what he did !
Is it not a bigger loss delaying the Rafale deal for years just because the middle men were not acceptable to the french company..? It is another matter that HAL would have taken another 100 years to learn to how to make it..
Present govt has taken many steps to augment indian defence capabilities. I have never read a positive view in this regard from Mr Shukla. He writes about defence purchases as if he is privy to all the documents. All his views are loaded against Midi govt at the centre. That is why rediff always prints his views in this column since rediff is also a anti Midi channel
Re: Ajai shuklas views are one sided
by KAUSHIK NANDY on Nov 22, 2018 12:36 PM
Buy your point. I donot know why Rediff fails to understand the feeling for the betterment of our nation. Many a times I have through posts requested the Editor to be neutral but to deaf ears.
Rafale of UPA was bare bones Rafale, Rafale as ordered now is with weapons and additional active passive support systems. In case of UPA Rafale, there would have been these costs added separately, in case of NDA Rafale, it is in built. Dofference is like the economy model of a car vs the LX or Dx model with ABS, Air bags etc etc - so there is no cost increase as such - it is a cost of additional devices/facilities A bare bones Ertiga is 7.5 Lakhs vs top end model is about 9.5-10 lakhs - this is a similar case & not worth hiping about As regards Reliance as partner & not HAL, well, who would want HAL who are basically kit assemblers that too with not a great record Our mentality is still favoring PSU's despite of years of bad experience We Indians still today feel only luxury goods to be made by private enterprises,essential goods & services to be given subsidised by govt/PSU's We are still not a mature system capable of understanding free enterprise & market economy, and that it is applicable to defense & security areas also
Re: Re: Rafale of UPA vs Rafale of NDA
by on Nov 22, 2018 01:20 PM
Specifications of fighter jets are decided & approved by highly tech. committee so how would that committee even in UPA time approve for bare bone jets ? It is all cover up stories floated by vested parties under the smoke screen of so called secrecy clause. Why the secrecy clause was not amended / modified for the sake of transparency in the fresh deal by NDA as far as price of the jets were concerned ? If indeed jets in the fresh NDA deal is cheaper by 20 % as claimed by Jaitely so why the quantity was reduced from 126 jets to 36 ? Now if in the fresh tenders the prices are increased who would be responsible for the higher cost ?
Re: Re: Re: Rafale of UPA vs Rafale of NDA
by dhananjay kritu on Nov 22, 2018 06:06 PM
If HAL were to come out with a car, would you buy & drive it? That's the sort of crucial question requiring answer
Rafale of UPA was bare bones Rafale, Rafale as ordered now is with weapons and additional active passive support systems. In case of UPA Rafale, there would have been these costs added separately, in case of NDA Rafale, it is in built. Dofference is like the economy model of a car vs the LX or Dx model with ABS, Air bags etc etc - so there is no cost increase as such - it is a cost of additional devices/facilities A bare bones Ertiga is 7.5 Lakhs vs top end model is about 9.5-10 lakhs - this is a similar case & not worth hiping about As regards Reliance as partner & not HAL, well, who would want HAL who are basically kit assemblers that too with not a great record Our mentality is still favoring PSU's despite of years of bad experience We Indians still today feel only luxury goods to be made by private enterprises,essential goods & services to be given subsidised by govt/PSU's We are still not a mature system capable of understanding free enterprise & market economy, and that it is applicable to defense & security areas also
