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The Rafale 'secret' clause


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K Bhaskaran
Rafale Deal - Secrecy Clause
by K Bhaskaran on Jul 23, 2018 12:08 PM

Quote: 'It also cited the fact that Macron indicated publicly in an interview given to the magazine India Today on March 9: 'In India and in France, when a deal is very sensitive, we can't reveal all details." With such a clause can anyone accuse the "scion of the Gandhi dynasty that there was something fishy in the Rafale deal with France."

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Sunil Vaidya
hi
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 23, 2018 12:01 PM  | Hide replies

nobody is asking for such details claude arpi...w are only asking for those details which are "not secret" surely you should not object to giving out those details of the rafale deal...

surely not each and every word of rafale deal is under "secrecy" act?

why contract given to newcomer inexperienced having no knowledge of arms making ambani instead of experienced HAL is not covered by "secrecy" deal? or is it?

why deal price increased from 500 crores to nearly 2000 also to be kept secret?

why the rafale deal which was 95% complete suddenly became 0% complete and an entirely new deal was started ...that also comes under secrecy act...

it is plain and simple massive corruption by current govt...

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Rakesh Dandekar
Re: hi
by Rakesh Dandekar on Jul 23, 2018 01:05 PM
Other things I have not much knowledge but one thing is that how Anil Ambani group come in the agreement? whether they have knowledge of arm manufacturing? whether this all assembling will with the help of local manufacturer? Why it has gone to Nagpur for agreement? Why HAL is a govt. organization not included? there are many whats not only price but its purity, guarantee of operating because it is not only our military also civilians depending if war started. So there is no question why Rahul brought this matter in parliament because that is the only place where our PM and other ministers are sitting and hearing but some BJP followers are never think all this hence this is the problem.

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LiveComment
Re: Re: hi
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 01:17 PM
Do you know earlier during Cong. days for each and every deal there used to be a middle man in all defense deals ?. Even though experts from our armed forces used to participate in all technical discussion cong. used to appoint a middle man. Why ?.
The current government removed the middle man and started directly interacting with govt. that is hurting cong. That is why they are making so much noise.

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atul pandya
Re: hi
by atul pandya on Jul 23, 2018 01:09 PM
It depends on what colour of glass you are wearing, if you wear black glass, everything will be black. Also depends on motive of person/organisation, thoses who have corrupt practices, they see corruption everything, because they know where all they can make money.

As somebody explained above post, earlier Rafale deal was only "of the shelf" jets, no technology transfer, no maintenance contract, no spare parts, no customisation as per IAF, no pilot training. All these are part of New Deal and most importantly, each jet will come along with Loaded weappons.

I guess this much explaination is sufficient for people who love their country not some dumb fellow, who has no idea of purchasing a Computer ever.

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: hi
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 23, 2018 01:41 PM
you are wrong earlier deal included technology transfer, maintenance contract and the rest...please check...you seem to be just another blind bhakt...who believes in bjp lies and misinformation...not for noting ourpm is calledfeku...

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subhash krishna
Re: hi
by subhash krishna on Jul 23, 2018 12:58 PM
exactly...where from Anil Ambani got drafted into the deal?
Govts have been hiding under the secrecy clause for long (it happened with Bofors, and now with Rafale)...


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Rakesh Dandekar
Re: Re: hi
by Rakesh Dandekar on Jul 23, 2018 01:11 PM
Bofors is middle man Quotrochi and Rafel is middle man of Anil Ambani then what you can expect from this honest govt. All political parties are corrupt but we the tax payers are sufferer. last four years there is no increase income tax slab and salary are increased but what is the use when we go on paying income tax. during this Non confidence motion Rahaul highlighted some message but other s like AAIDMK, DKM BJDm SS, TRS,and started Mahagatbandhan now they left from this then how common people will believe them to cast vote therefore it is better to cast your valuable vote only two national parties that BJP and Congress and live all these mahagatbandhan it is unnecessary waste and loss to India shining.

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LiveComment
Re: Re: Re: hi
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 01:24 PM
Please check your facts. IT slabs raised from Rs.2 Lakhs to Rs.2.5 Lakhs in 2013-14 and tax rate reduced 2017-18 and also there is standard deduction of Rs.40k for medical and travel from 2018-19 (no need to submit any proof). What more you need ?.

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Rakesh Dandekar
Re: Re: hi
by Rakesh Dandekar on Jul 23, 2018 01:12 PM
Bofors is middle man Quotrochi and Rafel is middle man of Anil Ambani then what you can expect from this honest govt. All political parties are corrupt but we the tax payers are sufferer. last four years there is no increase income tax slab and salary are increased but what is the use when we go on paying income tax. during this Non confidence motion Rahaul highlighted some message but other s like AAIDMK, DKM BJDm SS, TRS,and started Mahagatbandhan now they left from this then how common people will believe them to cast vote therefore it is better to cast your valuable vote only two national parties that BJP and Congress and live all these mahagatbandhan it is unnecessary waste and loss to India shining.

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Lekshminarayanan
Re: Re: hi
by Lekshminarayanan on Jul 23, 2018 02:43 PM
Bofors was a good gun in spite of all scandals. Let us hope the Rafel flies high and doesn't kill any IAF officers.

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