The so called secrecy clause was known earlier too and is in public domain about which I myself have read in the print media earlier too when the deal came into controversy. Modi govt. has come on the promise of corruption free governance with transparent functioning.The just Rs 62 Cr Bofors ghost is refusing to leave Late Rajiv Gandhi even after decades while here is Narendra Modi not having any qualms about striking a deal worth thousands of crores w/o any transparency with allegations of kickbacks to his 3rd rate crony capitalists corporate making him partner with worlds' topmost defense manufacturer Dassault.The double standards on the part of Narendra Modi is glaring when it comes to handling corruption allegations relating to establishment and his BJP people and those against opposition.
Re: GLARING DOUBLE STANDARDS OF MODI GOVT. ON CORRUPTION
by Gladyschellam on Jul 23, 2018 05:42 PM
Taken it as if it is new purchase with some sophisticated and technological modification : Secrecy is very much essential could be right. Earlier Agreement of 2008 it seemed to be between Govt of India and the Foreign Company or Govt of France. Fresh agreement ought to have been entered during 2016 might have had with same terms but the cost of plane must be different. Further it is in news that it has been negotiated thru another company instead of a Govt Company (HAL) Here the question of necessity arises.
Whatever be, another question is what is the necessity for secrecy in terms of cost, as Indian Public Money is involved. Whether it is insisted by the vendor? If so, what is the buyers insistence? Another question, all existing rules etc of Indian Govt followed. When CAG earlier questioned the Govt as if the respective Ministry did not follow which caused the exchequer an assumed loss of 1.76 lakhs crores.
Under such circumstances the Govt should clarify on the part of Cost and other expenditure to be/be incurred.
The author has tried hard to cover up for the French in this piece. It is possible that the Indian side placed an order for Rafales with some superior radars, missiles etc and maybe a superior base system, as the author hints.NO one including Rahul Gandhi is asking for detailed technical description of these upgrades.
Even if it is a newer version of Rafale with longer range missiles, why can't the Govt say so in clear terms ? Also, what justifies a cost that is THREE times the original deal. Neither inflation nor superior airframe appear justify this. Moreover he hints that some collaboration on jet engines is in the offing. That may be so, but that can't inflate the price of this aircraft deal !
It is better that the MOD gives a broad break up of the various price components without divulging exact model nos, missile details etc to Parliament , after clearing all this with the French.
Congress is the Biggest Enemy of India and Hindus; they want their Friend Pakistan to know the Details of the Aircrafts Purchased by India, to make Indian Air Force Vulnerable #
france head of country macron himself has told to interview in india today that there is nothing secret in the deal and that modi bjp govt is free to tell all..
Re: hi
by tarun ranjan on Jul 23, 2018 04:17 PM
Quote "It also cited the fact that Macron indicated publicly in an interview given to the magazine India Today on March 9: 'In India and in France, when a deal is very sensitive, we can't reveal all details.'"
Re: hi
by tarun ranjan on Jul 23, 2018 04:17 PM
Quote "It also cited the fact that Macron indicated publicly in an interview given to the magazine India Today on March 9: 'In India and in France, when a deal is very sensitive, we can't reveal all details.'"
Re: hi
by tarun ranjan on Jul 23, 2018 04:17 PM
Quote "It also cited the fact that Macron indicated publicly in an interview given to the magazine India Today on March 9: 'In India and in France, when a deal is very sensitive, we can't reveal all details.'"
Re: hi
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Jul 23, 2018 04:18 PM
The French are very cunning as always. Their Govt has immediately retracted any such statement by Macron and said the exact opposite. That means, macron is correcting himslef without admitting any error !!
Re: Re: hi
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 04:29 PM
Please read the statement by Macron to India Today. He said it can not be revealed. He never said it can be revealed. Also France did not respond to this allegations as those were made outside of parliament by RaGa & his team. When it is made inside Parliament they gave a statement which is correct.
Re: hi
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Jul 23, 2018 04:19 PM
The French are very cunning as always. Their Govt has immediately retracted any such statement by Macron and said the exact opposite. That means, macron is correcting himslef without admitting any error !!
whihc is just 3 months old and do not posses any experience in aviation. Why HAL was super seeded over AA company. Do not disclose it publically but disclose it to select leaders of opposition. After all money is taken form consolidated fund of India so how govt can say it cant tell.
We can't blame RaGa The Kid. He thought that it is identical to the toy plane which his party gave him to play so he compared his plane with the plane India is purchasing for its Air Force. Also look at the arro-gance of the entire cong. they went to the extent to say, French President lied to media, their external affairs ministry is lied, only RaGa The Kid is talking truth. This shows RaGa's capacity to understand defense related procurement, his child-ish behavior, blaming everyone to prove his point. People of this country should teach him and his party by completely rejecting cong. in 2019.
Re: We can't blame RaGa The Kid.
by mitesh on Jul 23, 2018 01:22 PM | Hide message
Why this thug /corrupt /liar /chetaer /communal /criminal /mafia/womeniser & Mchodds PM Modi was silent on this dubious corrupt Rafeal deal??He draged history but he failed to reply RaGas charges.We have the most third grade PM coming from a third grade party in India since 1947.People should throw out this Mchodds Modi sarkar in 2019.
Re: Re: We can't blame RaGa The Kid.
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 01:25 PM
Frustrated post from a blind family follower.
Re: We can't blame RaGa The Kid.
by mitesh on Jul 23, 2018 01:23 PM | Hide message
Why this thug /corrupt /liar /chetaer /communal /criminal /mafia/womeniser & Mchodds PM Modi was silent on this dubious corrupt Rafeal deal??He draged history but he failed to reply RaGas charges.We have the most third grade PM coming from a third grade party in India since 1947.People should throw out this Mchodds Modi sarkar in 2019.
Re: Re: We can't blame RaGa The Kid.
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 01:26 PM
Frustrated post from a blind family follower.
No one is asking for the detailed configuration and the armaments which will be part of the deal and these could be part of the secrecy covering the deal. But why is there such blunt refusal to disclose the price paid? How can this be shielded from the parliament, because the country is paying for it? In what way will this compromise security?
Re: Rafale deal
by Sachin on Jul 23, 2018 01:08 PM
.... because if france has given a special price for India only, and if it is revealed, it will loose deals with many other nations with whom they may have quoted a much higher amount.
Re: Re: Rafale deal
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Jul 23, 2018 04:19 PM
Do you think SItharaman or Modi will dare to tell the CAG that we can't reveal the price ?
Re: Rafale deal
by LiveComment on Jul 23, 2018 01:11 PM
It is a simple logic. Even a small manufacturer who is selling small appliances to different parties at difference price will not disclose the price openly as it will spoil his business relation with other party.
Re: Dumb Indians
by Narender on Jul 23, 2018 02:03 PM
Modi and his party are proved thugs, they are only dramatic language. Rahul has pointed out figures and thugs state that it is a secret deal.
Re: Re: Dumb Indians
by CHAKRABORTY I on Jul 23, 2018 02:45 PM
U may like Mr Modi or dislike but he is PM of India. Use some civil language. This shows your cultureand familybackground
The deal includes all the expense from 2008 at french country. People who visted France their Stay in reasort for 20 day per day 1 crore. Then bribe money but it was cancelled then New Negotitation started Madam Sonia knows why it was costly then Previous Neg . Previous Only refale skelton was planned then Refale war Plane with weapon Purchase . Raga was person who stayed at france for 20 Day in POS resort for Holiday He Knowns amount Asking for that Now Poor Modi changed everything
