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BJP's nationalism is not for all Indians


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slave su
yea
by slave su on Dec 28, 2017 09:37 PM

yea definitely not for pseudo sickulars

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Ramprasad Srinivasan
Nationalism...!
by Ramprasad Srinivasan on Dec 28, 2017 07:48 PM  | Hide replies

In the prevailing era, Indian Nationalism means supporting Modi and BJP irrespective of what they both do to the country and its people. Those who criticise/oppose Modi and BJP are traitors. It is as simpe as this.

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vidwan soni
Re: Nationalism...!
by vidwan soni on Dec 28, 2017 09:35 PM
You are very much right but fools commenting on rediff are duffers who don't respect this view and are usually against Minorities?

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P S SHAH
Re: Re: Nationalism...!
by P S SHAH on Dec 28, 2017 10:01 PM
Duffer Soni, you will remain duffer for ever.

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Bharat
Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Bharat on Dec 28, 2017 03:26 PM  | Hide replies

Mr Patel,

From 1947 till date, all political parties have divided us Indians into groups and offered Sops to either influence our thinking or directly vote for the political parties. Be it Congress (which always used its secular stand albeit being pseudo secular) or BJP or regional parties like CPI or SP or BSP or JDU. Just putting this as only for BJP - I will disagree.

I will like to see you talk on positive things which BJP has brought. Corruption, attempts to remove black money, Tax system etc. I have not seen you writing on these, though you have gone ahead critisizing BJP for the 2G stand, knowing well the background of the judge OP Saini and the previous judgement of SC on the same.

My 2 cents - as a journalist - we should put the things fairly and clearly from all angels. Else, people will take you as a 'pawn' of the pseudo -secular parties

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Musalmaan Masala
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Musalmaan Masala on Dec 28, 2017 03:50 PM
You contradict yourself. "All political parties have divided us Indians" so here the BJP which tries to be sacrosanct in its beliefs and holier than thou attitude too - IS GUILTY.
Secondly "Pseudo secular" you seem to be loving this word which is usually ad nauseum by BJP supporters and this is a clear indication which way you lean.
BTW What exactly is "Pseudo secularism" vis a vis "Pseudo Nationalism"?

"BJP has brought corruption attempt to remove black money....etc". You call these attempts "positive". Apart from slogans and tweets day in day out at the ground level corruption and black money IS STILL THRIVING.

You even cast aspersions on OP Saini which means that any order that goes against the grain and understanding of the BJP reeks of - if you are not with us you are against us.


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Satyajeet Singh Yadava
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Satyajeet Singh Yadava on Dec 28, 2017 04:59 PM
The job of a Journalist is not to lick or praise the Govt. of the Day,rather they have to put some tough questions so that the rulers are not ending up just patting their own backs????????????

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P S SHAH
Re: Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by P S SHAH on Dec 28, 2017 10:04 PM
Bhaiyaji, what you know about journalism ? All the journalists are opportunists. They are never independent in their reporting and work to please their political masters be it ruling party or opposition parties.

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Satyajeet Singh Yadava
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Satyajeet Singh Yadava on Dec 28, 2017 05:00 PM
The job of a Journalist is not to lick or praise the Govt. of the Day,rather they have to put some tough questions so that the rulers are not ending up just patting their own backs????????????

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Urvashi Seth
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Urvashi Seth on Dec 28, 2017 10:52 PM
High time rediff is kicked out of India for siding with anti nationals always.

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Urvashi Seth
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Urvashi Seth on Dec 28, 2017 10:54 PM
High time rediff is kicked out of India for siding with anti nationals always.

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Urvashi Seth
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Urvashi Seth on Dec 28, 2017 10:55 PM
High time rediff is kicked out of India for siding with anti nationals always.

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Urvashi Seth
Re: Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Urvashi Seth on Dec 28, 2017 10:55 PM
High time rediff is kicked out of India for siding with anti nationals always.

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Bharat
Aakar Patel - I will disagree
by Bharat on Dec 28, 2017 03:23 PM

Mr Patel,

From 1947 till date, all political parties have divided us Indians into groups and offered Sops to either influence our thinking or directly vote for the political parties. Be it Congress (which always used its secular stand albeit being pseudo secular) or BJP or regional parties like CPI or SP or BSP or JDU. Just putting this as only for BJP - I will disagree.

I will like to see you talk on positive things which BJP has brought. Corruption, attempts to remove black money, Tax system etc. I have not seen you writing on these, though you have gone ahead critisizing BJP for the 2G stand, knowing well the background of the judge OP Saini and the previous judgement of SC on the same.

My 2 cents - as a journalist - we should put the things fairly and clearly from all angels. Else, people will take you as a 'pawn' of the pseudo -secular parties

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Sameer Shaikh
Mr. Aakar Patel - do not agree wholeheartdely
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 28, 2017 02:55 PM  | Hide replies

Mr. Aakar Patel, India was never a secular country to be on the first instance. It was a society which was segregated into multiple caste and social groups. Ambedkar gave them reservation and Congress nurtured those caste groups by providing additional reservations to OBC and tribal. Congress played such smart politics in these 60 years of their rule that it was almost impossible for regional parties to give a competition to Congress on national level. Congress used smart politics by franchise model to rule North states and provide agency into regional areas of south and other states. India is so diverse country that it was impossible to match Congress which gained popularity on mass freedom movement.

BJP then decided to add religious zeal and polarizing society. That rath yatra of Advani was the first step which aimed of united sanatan dharma groups Sangh Parivar) united against common enemy musl. Then it focused on anti globalization, price rise and anti incumbent along with religion. When it came to power it turned opposite. First they tried 22 allies. Then today BJP aims to unite hind irrespective of caste in the name of nationalism, divisiveness, hate campaign with some package of development in cow belt areas. In South India and North East it aims to rule with franchise method of giving their agency to third party local faces. One thing for sure it has no place for musl in their electoral gain so it always positions itself as pro hin party.

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Sameer Shaikh
Re: Mr. Aakar Patel - do not agree wholeheartdely
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 28, 2017 03:03 PM
My concern with BJP is not their style of politics but lack of talent in their pool. It is mandatory to serve RSS for considerable time and acquaintance with its core values to occupy any top post in cabinet and government which leave them rely of civil servants and beaurocrats. Modi alone cannot reform like superman. He needs to work as a team. Here you have Yogi Adityanath as UP CM. When Bill Gates came to meet him, he was not impressed because these people research a lot whom they meet. The first impression of potential investors or tycoon is why this government appoints extremist for top post and afraid of neighbors canoodling with hafees syed types.

You wont find a genius like Manmohan Singh or Raghu Ram Rajan in BJP cabinet because these guys from Harvard will have their mindset tuned to global thinking. BJP thinking is opposite because of its core values.

Investment and jobs under Modis BJP will be big question mark. World is taking cognizance of India's domestic affairs and most of them are not happy with current affairs.

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P S SHAH
Re: Re: Mr. Aakar Patel - do not agree wholeheartdely
by P S SHAH on Dec 28, 2017 10:05 PM
Sameet Shaikh, BJP and RSS do not care for an opinion of you people. They have enough talented people in their party.

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venu  gopal
Politics of Cast / nationalism
by venu gopal on Dec 28, 2017 12:28 PM

Through out the centuries the people were divided on caste But India was a Hindu rashtra. if you go thru Vedic period we had Brahmins, Kshatriyas, vaishya, sudras. With every invasion the cast religions were exploited and were lured to for the benefits of the invaders.they were chineese, Christians (Europeans) , Muslims. so forced or otherwise conversion started. till date it is going on & will continue for their self interest. Eery country if you look at majority religion will throw out , humiliate the minorities (even the smallest undeveloped countries) In inddia for political gains the minorities are appeased and majority is harassed . if majority strikes back it is human violations. all sorts are thrown at. Democracy / Nationalism do not mean only appeasement, it is co existence. Our Politicians and greedy appeasers for few quids are the real culprits of the situation the country is going through

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s kumar
democratic politics
by s kumar on Dec 28, 2017 11:00 AM

in multiparty democratic system - obviously a minimum of 35-40% vote is needed in first-past-the-post formula to win elctions..Hence a pro-group has to be identified in such a manner that pits them against the remainining 60% -anti-group -because it is not possible for any party to satisfy all 100% group . So it makes sense to have a pro-group that covers the bare minimum vote bank (40%) -that can be satisfied and consolidated .Polliticians are masters of this efficient process . If it is two party system - then this will go upto 45-48% (as in US) . All parties do this worldwide , so nothing new (its like reinventing the wheel)

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