"violence on our streets, and the violence in our media (the calling of individuals as 'dalals' of Pakistan) is the physical manifestation of religious nationalism."One would wish it had added Hindus being driven out of Kashmir,clamoring for rohinga refugees when we had not given refuge to Bhutanese in the past and that too when a country for Bengali Speaking Muslims had already been carved out india and our Kashmiri brethren questioning as to why this much armed personnel must be deployed against Pakistan."Alas it is not!
"find religious and ethnic nationalism "These are relevant only if the nation has without exception only only religion or only one ethnic group.It it is multi religious, multi ethnic,multi lingual it can only be NATIONALISM going by the name of the country giving equal opportunity to all groups,allowing one man one vote principle , not like in India where as said voluntarily by someone in this site that a party consults clergy for a religion's votes.That makes a mockery of democracy.What vitiates the democracy is already said in this site by some body in another write up.I don't know anything about BJP I have never voted for it .But what on against BJP terming it as communal is sheer politics whereas Party consulting clergy for Religion votes is communal.That consultation had been there stands said in this site.R.PONNAMBALAM
Rajiv Gandhis Congress, fighting anti incumbency and popular disenchantment due to the then full blown Bofors scandal, received 40 % of the total votes but could win just 36 % of the LS seats (189 out of 543).
The opposition, Janata Dal plus Left front plus BJP, was united and put up common candidates after thrashing out a common minimum program (CMP).
IN the 2014 LS election, Narendra Modis BJP led NDA, riding on the anti incumbency against the 10 year old UPA and the massive disenchantment against it due to the 2G and coal scams, won 327 seats (60 %) though it received just 36 % of the total votes !!
The opposition, unlike in 1989, was heavily divided !
And look how this less than average performance of Modis BJP has been described by sections of the mainstream media as a *massive* win !!
But regardless of what sections of the media describe, Modi himself senses how fragile his victory is !
And regardless of how his bhakts labour on with attempts to convince others that he is invincible, Modi realises how badly he has damaged the Indian economy with the thoughtless Demonetization and the half baked GST and how jobs have disappeared and how the farm sector has been crippled.
And above all, Modi knows very well that it may not be long before his own massively corrupt acts - the P note scam by Adani and the Rafale scam and several others - tumble out into the open and become massive points of public debate !
Re: In the 1989 LS election,
by piri on Dec 30, 2017 12:48 AM
It is with these realities in mind that Modi and Shah are hard at work now with their tried and tested chants of hyndu.....muxlim.....hyndu.....muxlim.....Pakistan.....national......anti national......hyndu......muxlim..... to divert the focus of the gullible as ever north Indian commoners !
The religion nationalism started in these words "Our Mahomedan nation has hitherto sat silent. It was quite indifferent as to what the Babus of Bengal, the Hindus of these Provinces, and the English and Eurasian inhabitants of India, might be doing. But they have now been wrongly tampering with our nation."addressed in Meerut on14th March 1888 and which is being carried alongwith still by all those ----- relentlessly.When did BJP join this lot that this write up clubs BJP with them?R.PONNAMBALAM
Re: When did BJP join the separate nation clan
by MS Vasan on Dec 29, 2017 05:49 PM
BJP Nationalism, Congress Nationalism, DMK Nationalism, etc etc Because Congress, DMK, TMC, etc question Indian Nationalism, BJP alone is probably identified with Nationalism and hence to be questioned.... Rest need not be nationalistic nor patriotic according to the author...
Re: Re: When did BJP join the separate nation clan
by R ponnabalam on Dec 30, 2017 08:48 AM
Nationalism is only to serve the interest of the nation.I remember having read some eminent man writing something like this: patriotism is taking care of all citizens in every respect." To me it means "That should ensure linguistic freedom ,religious freedom dignity of life and the right to earn earnest livelihood."Religion is no Nation.They do not mix.Religion aspects are only within the religion.If any citizen of any Religion comes to the court of law he will be governed not by religion- rules but by constitution .Congress or BJP also cannot have Hindi Imperialism (Hindi and Urdun/Urdu are the same language written in different script ) and call it Indian nationalism.That is Mughal language Nationalism.R.PONNAMBALAM
Re: Re: Re: When did BJP join the separate nation clan
by R ponnabalam on Dec 30, 2017 09:30 AM
"DMK nationalism".We in Tamilnadu don't want to be Indians to learn or use Invader Mughal court language however much anyone may camouflage itR.PONNAMBALAM
Being an unbiased and honest man he is, Mr. Aakar Patel makes it very clear at the start itself that he is examining why so many people were hoping that the Congress would perform well or more accurately why the BJP would (should?) not win again.” Objective is very clear. To build up a storyline or to search for reasons to substantiate the above narrative. One of his very unbiased and honest findings is that “Bharat Mata Ki Jai” is in Hindi. I thought Bharat is Bharat in any language in India. Mata which means mother in any India language and Jai is Jai. This word “Ki” in between, is very much there in several languages in the northern side of India. More than anything , this sentence has got absorbed into all the Indian languages and everyone know what it means and what it stands for. I don’t find too many people taking objection to this sentence Bharat Mata Ki Jai. So if some unbiased and honest man is finding fault with this, there is some other interest and angle to it. What is it? The author says(!) that he is not really able to figure out what Modi baiting is, but it is hard to miss the amount of “intelligence” that has gone into presenting each and every argument against BJP and Modi the way it is presented in this article. Propagandist maybe wanting to kill BJP and Modi, but in the attempt he will end up killing whatever bit of nationalism that is still remaining, and then even the Congress will not be able to
Being an unbiased and honest man he is, Mr. Aakar Patel makes it very clear at the start itself that he is examining why so many people were hoping that the Congress would perform well or more accurately why the BJP would (should?) not win again.” Objective is very clear. To build up a storyline or to search for reasons to substantiate the above narrative. One of his very unbiased and honest findings is that “Bharat Mata Ki Jai” is in Hindi. I thought Bharat is Bharat in any language in India. Mata which means mother in any India language and Jai is Jai. This word “Ki” in between, is very much there in several languages in the northern side of India. More than anything , this sentence has got absorbed into all the Indian languages and everyone know what it means and what it stands for. I don’t find too many people taking objection to this sentence Bharat Mata Ki Jai. So if some unbiased and honest man is finding fault with this, there is some other interest and angle to it. What is it? The author says(!) that he is not really able to figure out what Modi baiting is, but it is hard to miss the amount of “intelligence” that has gone into presenting each and every argument against BJP and Modi the way it is presented in this article. Propagandist maybe wanting to kill BJP and Modi, but in the attempt he will end up killing whatever bit of nationalism that is still remaining, and then even the Congress will not be able to
"they do not pursue the course of dividing Indians on the basis of religion mainly"I am no supporter of BJP.But history shows that division of india on Religion was sought and got by somebody else.The words in the articles in internet put the ball in other court.Why not flog the right horse and make correction Words of Abdur Rahman Dojanwe ,of the knighted scholar who built a university and the man who claimed a religion as Nation without that Nation having any land here would tell the truth.R.PONNAMBALAM
