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Sunil Vaidya
hi
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2017 07:43 PM

Modi's son sambit patra is a director of ONGC. How dare anybody file RTI?

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SAkthi dharan
RTI request.
by SAkthi dharan on Dec 16, 2017 09:38 AM

As she wanted toknow about ONGC and was in an NGO she invited the wrath

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Ramachandra N
MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:13 PM  | Hide replies

From time to time, there have been many moves by government as well as private institutions to bring right to information to the citizen. I have listed below various important events in the evolution of the RTI Act, 2005 that made history of RTI Act 2005 in India.

1977: Janata Government headed by Morarji Desai constituted a working group to ascertain if the Official Secrets Act, 1923 could be modified so as to facilitate greater flow of information to the public. The working group recommended that the Act of 1923 should be retained without change.

1986: In the famous case of Mr. Kulwal v/s Jaipur Municipal Corporation the Supreme Court gave clear cut directive that Freedom of Speech and Expression provided under Article 19 of the Constitution clearly implies Right to Information as without information the freedom of speech and expression cannot be fully used by the citizens.

1990: Heading the National Front government, Prime Minister V.P Singh, first politician to lay emphasis on RTI, stressed on the importance of Right to Information as a legislated right. He tried to enact legislation in 1989-90. But, due to the political instability at the time, the idea did not materialize and V P Singh was removed from office in 1990, as his government lost the confidence vote in Lok Sabha.

1994: Mazdoor Kisan Shakti Sanghatan (MKSS) started a grassroots campaign for Right to Information – demanding information concerning development works in rural Rajasthan. This movement gre

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Ramachandra N
Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:15 PM
1999: Public Interest Litigation (PIL) was filed before Supreme Court to: Lift restraint on Ministers; Declare Section 5 of Official Secret Act, 1923 unconstitutional; Ask Government of India to issue suitable instructions for RTI, pending legislation.

1999: Union Urban Affairs Minister passed an administrative order on transparency in the Urban Affairs Ministry.

2000: Freedom of Information Bill, 2000 was introduced in Parliament, and was referred to a Select Committee of Parliament.

2001: NCT Delhi assembly passed a law on Right to Information.

2002: Report of Select Committee in early 2002.

2002: Freedom of Information Bill, 2000 was passed in both houses of Parliament in December 2002. This was a watered down version of the bill proposed by NCPRI and other organizations.

2002: In September, Maharashtra Government passed RTI Ordinance that overwrote the Maharashtra RTI Act, 2000.

2002: The Hon’ble Supreme Court of India, by its order dated 2nd May, 2002 in Civil Appeal No. 7178 of 2001 (Union of India vs. Association for Democratic reforms and another) directed the Election Commission to call for information on affidavit by issuing necessary order in exercise of its power under Article 324 of the Constitution of India from each candidate seeking election to Parliament or a state legislature as a necessary part of his nomination paper.

2003: Freedom of Information Bill received the assent of the President of India on 6th January, 2003, and became law, known as

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:17 PM
Freedom of Information Act, 2002 Act No. 5 of 2003.

2003: On 31st January MP Government passed MP RTI Act.

2003: In August, Maharashtra Government converted its Ordinance into new RTI Act.2004UPA Government came to power in 2004. The National Advisory Council (NAC), also known as the shadow government, was formed under Mrs. Sonia Gandhi. The main objective of the Council was to monitor implementation of government schemes and advise government on policy and law.

2004: NCPRI formulated amendments to Freedom of Information Act, 2002 and forwarded to the NAC. NAC endorsed with minor changes and recommended to the Government (Prime Minister). There was reluctance among politicians and bureaucrats in adopting these changes. There was an attempt made to re-notify the earlier Freedom of Information Act; This move faced widespread protests by citizens and civil society.

2004: Finally, on 23rd December 2004, UPA Government tabled the RTI Bill 2004, applicable only to the Union Government. The civil society was not happy with this. Most of the information required by the common man was from state governments. The bill did not serve the purpose of the common man. Some members of the NAC too were unhappy with this. After heavy lobbying by NCPRI and other organizations the Right to Information Act, 2005 was passed with 150 amendments. Bill is now applicable to States also.

2005: RTI Bill was passed in Lok Sabha on 11th May 2005, and in Rajya Sabha on 12th May 2005. It received assent

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:17 PM
of President of India on 15th June 2005, and was published in the Gazette of India on 21st June 2005. RTI Act, 2005 came into force with effect from 12th October 2005, and known as Right to Information Act, 2005 (Act No. 22 of 2005).

The above mentioned list of events does not contain all important events in the history of RTI Act 2005 in India, rather contains only those events that had been influential in the evolution of RTI Act 2005 in India.

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piri
Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 07:21 PM
Peabrain Ramachandra, so much bla...bla.... in response to plainspeak by me ?

Now, come down this board and read once again what you wrote (for which I mocked you) !

You wrote in reply to someone that the Congress BROUGHT the RTI law in response to some movement led by Kejriwal !

Dare to deny this, you oaf ?

And now, go back to that google search of yours and search why exactly the Congress brought it !

It was part of the CMP it agreed in exchange for the support of the then 52 M.P strong left front !

Do hurry, you dumbo !

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:34 PM
Noron, the culmination was by AK, there was a popular moment and read the question to whom I answered. It was why it brought it. Not that It brought it exclusively on its own.

Plainspeak? U just abuse and when countered run away or abuse more without even bothering to anser.

Read the question to which I answered and tell me how it is wrong?
a) It bought becoz of a popluar moment. - Right or Wrong? AK was its leader at its height. Right or wrong?



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piri
Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 08:14 PM
Oh, it hurt you ?

So, you are indeed a dumbo, arent you, abusing everyone and then getting hurt when your stuxpidity is mocked at by others !!

And what was that ?

Culmination by Kejriwal ?

We were not talking about culmination or movement or history of the RTI, were we ?

You abused that person and stated that the Congress brought in the RTI act due to the movement led by Kejriwal, didnt you ?

Well, the Congress did not enact the RTI law in 2005 because of Kejriwal or his movement !

It enacted the law only because it was part of its agreement (CMP) with the 52 M.P strong left front in UPA I.

Now, do run along and check this out !

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 08:37 PM
So COn Party Did It. U say Commies forced it !

Exactly What I meant. COn Party bought it. There was a moment for it. It was lead by AK. Even if it was not exactly true wasnt it a moment that forced it?

U try to pick holes where there are none and try to run semantics.

Now go and find out whether MarxFarted Jasmin

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHa
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 08:38 PM
not true means not believing AK Lead it.

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piri
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHaram
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 09:12 PM
Attributing the act of the Congress in enacting the law to Kejriwals movement is erroneous, it is not semantics !

The Congress was, like the BJP is today, always unwilling on its own to have anything to do with the RTI.

It enacted it only under duress !

Go check and stop trying to get away from the point !

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MoronPiri its not theLeft . PlGoogle ItsNotHa
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 09:20 PM
Never seen any proof that it was due to Left Pressure. If Left were so good why oppose bringing Political arties under RTI?

RTI was a moment which had legislative basis from time back. Con Party was forced to give final shapes due to popular moment. Not just ur Left Pressure alone.

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piri
The Congress
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 04:18 PM  | Hide replies

did not bring the RTI act. Just like the BJP, it regarded it with fear and as an impediment for its corrupt acts.

Enactment of the RTI act was part of the CMP (common minimum program) agreed upon by the Congress as a condition for the left front to support the Congress led UPA I in 2004, when the Congress had to depend on the left front to form a govt. Subsequently, the MMS govt tried to bring in an amendment to dilute the provisions of the RTI act but failed when the left front threatened it with withdrawal of support to UPA I. The UPA II, which did not have the left front as a partner, duly diluted the RTI act by hugely increasing the no of exemptions.

Subsequently, the BJP led by Modi, adopted the back door approach of not appointing officials in thousands of RTI posts when they fell vacant to delay or refuse RTI answers to the public !

Both the Congress and the BJP have always been against anything like a proper RTI system that helps in bringing transparency and accountability in governance.

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Ramachandra N
Re: The Congress
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:09 PM
From time to time, there have been many moves by government as well as private institutions to bring right to information to the citizen. I have listed below various important events in the evolution of the RTI Act, 2005 that made history of RTI Act 2005 in India.

1977: Janata Government headed by Morarji Desai constituted a working group to ascertain if the Official Secrets Act, 1923 could be modified so as to facilitate greater flow of information to the public. The working group recommended that the Act of 1923 should be retained without change.

1986: In the famous case of Mr. Kulwal v/s Jaipur Municipal Corporation the Supreme Court gave clear cut directive that Freedom of Speech and Expression provided under Article 19 of the Constitution clearly implies Right to Information as without information the freedom of speech and expression cannot be fully used by the citizens.


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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: The Congress
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:10 PM
stressed on the importance of Right to Information as a legislated right. He tried to enact legislation in 1989-90. But, due to the political instability at the time, the idea did not materialize and V P Singh was removed from office in 1990, as his government lost the confidence vote in Lok Sabha.

1994: Mazdoor Kisan Shakti Sanghatan (MKSS) started a grassroots campaign for Right to Information – demanding information concerning development works in rural Rajasthan. This movement grew and the campaign resulted in the government of Rajasthan enacting a law on Right to Information in 2000.

1995: Draft Act was formulated in a meeting of social activists at the LBSNAA, Mussoorie, 1995.

1996: National Campaign for People’s Right to Information (NCPRI), one among several civil society groups, was founded with the objective of getting legislation on RTI passed. Due to the growing demand for right to information, the Press Council of India under guidance of its Chairman Justice P B Sawant drafted a law which was later updated and changed at a workshop and renamed “The Press Council–NIRD Freedom of Information Act, 1997.

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: The Congress
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:11 PM
1997: Tamilnadu became the first state in India to have passed a law on Right to Information.

1997: The Madhya Pradesh Government issued executive orders to 36 departments to implement Right to Information which later increased to more than 50 departments.

1997: The Working Group, under Chairmanship of H D Shourie, appointed by the United Front government, drafted the Freedom of Information Bill, 1997.

1997: Goa legislature enacted a law on Right to Information.

1998: The Government of Madhya Pradesh tabled a Bill on Right to Information, which was passed by the legislature. The Bill didn’t become Law because the Governor denied assent.

1998: When the NDA came to power, Prime Minister A. B. Vajpayee assured the nation that a Law on Right to Information shall be enacted soon.

1999: Government restrained Ministers.

1999: Public Interest Litigation (PIL) was filed before Supreme Court to: Lift restraint on Ministers; Declare Section 5 of Official Secret Act, 1923 unconstitutional; Ask Government of India to issue suitable instructions for RTI, pending legislation.

1999: Union Urban Affairs Minister passed an administrative order on transparency in the Urban Affairs Ministry.

2000: Freedom of Information Bill, 2000 was introduced in Parliament, and was referred to a Select Committee of Parliament.

2001: NCT Delhi assembly passed a law on Right to Information.

2002: Report of Select Committee in early 2002.

2002: Freedom of Information Bill, 2000 was passed in bo

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Congress
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 07:11 PM
2004: NCPRI formulated amendments to Freedom of Information Act, 2002 and forwarded to the NAC. NAC endorsed with minor changes and recommended to the Government (Prime Minister). There was reluctance among politicians and bureaucrats in adopting these changes. There was an attempt made to re-notify the earlier Freedom of Information Act; This move faced widespread protests by citizens and civil society.

2004: Finally, on 23rd December 2004, UPA Government tabled the RTI Bill 2004, applicable only to the Union Government. The civil society was not happy with this. Most of the information required by the common man was from state governments. The bill did not serve the purpose of the common man. Some members of the NAC too were unhappy with this. After heavy lobbying by NCPRI and other organizations the Right to Information Act, 2005 was passed with 150 amendments. Bill is now applicable to States also.

2005: RTI Bill was passed in Lok Sabha on 11th May 2005, and in Rajya Sabha on 12th May 2005. It received assent of President of India on 15th June 2005, and was published in the Gazette of India on 21st June 2005. RTI Act, 2005 came into force with effect from 12th October 2005, and known as Right to Information Act, 2005 (Act No. 22 of 2005).

The above mentioned list of events does not contain all important events in the history of RTI Act 2005 in India, rather contains only those events that had been influential in the evolution of RTI Act 2005 in India.

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Dolly Bindra
Communist brigade
by Dolly Bindra on Dec 15, 2017 03:39 PM  | Hide replies

Notorious communist brigade and christian missionaries have become nuisance causing all sorts of problems in South india because of strategic important govt institution like ISRO, KALPAKKAM, etc. She must be from this group otherwise how rediff give so much space to someone unknown person. Definitely she is from this brigade.

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Raja
Re: Communist brigade
by Raja on Dec 15, 2017 06:58 PM

Excellent. Hitler brigade in verge of resurfacing.

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Raja
Re: Re: Communist brigade
by Raja on Dec 15, 2017 06:59 PM

O sorry is already on JOB.

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sidhick aboobacker
Re: Communist brigade
by sidhick aboobacker on Dec 15, 2017 07:01 PM
This type of pre mind set up is the main problem in our nation. Shame... instead of giving details why they are threatening and harrassing.

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PerfectLeader
Re: Communist brigade
by PerfectLeader on Dec 15, 2017 07:42 PM
I agree with Dolly. South India is suffering with religious maniacs i.e. mostly Christianity (who are converting rural Hindus into Christianity importantly with "HATRED" as a toll, and Muslims with "LOVE JIHAD". These people are creating nuisance in South India - be it TN, Andhra, Kerala, Karnataka or Telangana. We are not against religions but spread-with-hatred-in-the-core, is the real problem and that is causing a lot of problems here.

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padmanabhan Raghavachari
Re: Re: Communist brigade
by padmanabhan Raghavachari on Dec 15, 2017 08:28 PM
Not only the above said; but also
after India gaining independence,
there was famine and drought all
over India, especially in the south.

At this time the US under PL480 plan a ship load of wheat and milk
powder was sent to India free of
cost.

But some of the missionaries and some NGOs forced the gullible and
illiterate poor people to convert
them to their religion forcefully
in order to get the free wheat
and milk powder for their just born
babies.

this is for your information please.


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Sunil Vaidya
hi
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 15, 2017 12:44 PM

good...modi does not allow lokpal...does not allow social audit...weakens rti ...cuts its funds...no doubt he and his team working overtime how to completely stop rti...

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cabe walker
What is right or wrong
by cabe walker on Dec 15, 2017 12:00 PM  | Hide replies

I dont care if it is right or wrong..whatever makes my country rich n strong will be accepted.

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aman
Re: What is right or wrong
by aman on Dec 15, 2017 03:18 PM
Whats rich? its all imagination only, Strength in knowledge of the overall society is important, if crookedness steps in the name of development it will not lasts long. Let things be open and transparent.

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Mens Rights Pune
If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by Mens Rights Pune on Dec 15, 2017 10:44 AM  | Hide replies

If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?

If B--J--P is not corrupt why is it harassing RTI activists?

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Ramachandra N
Re: If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 10:57 AM
UrMoron. COnParty brought it due to the popular moment lead by ArvindKejriwal. Then they too did not know abt their scams being bought out to light in such a spectacular manner.

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piri
Re: Re: If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 12:54 PM
Really, you moron ?

Oh, can you name any source that gave you this profound bit of info ?

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Ramachandra N
Re: Re: Re: If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by Ramachandra N on Dec 15, 2017 06:56 PM
No point in giging info to one who thinks itsHaram toGoogle

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piri
Re: If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by piri on Dec 15, 2017 12:50 PM
The Congress did not bring RTI. Just like the BJP, it regarded it with fear and as an impediment for its corrupt acts.

Enactment of the RTI act was part of the CMP (common minimum program) agreed upon by the Congress as a condition for the left front to support the Congress led UPA I in 2004, when the Congress had to depend on the left front to form a govt.

Subsequently, the MMS govt tried to bring in an amendment to dilute the provisions of the RTI act but failed when the left front threatened it with withdrawal of support to UPA I.

The UPA II, which did not have the left front as a partner, duly diluted the RTI act by hugely increasing the no of exemptions.

Subsequently, the BJP led by Modi, adopted the back door approach of not appointing officials in thousands of RTI posts when they fell vacant to delay or refuse RTI answers to the public !

Both the Congress and the BJP have always been against anything like a proper RTI system that helps in bringing transparency and accountability in governance !

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Nitesh
Re: Re: If Con--gress was corrupt why would it bring RTI?
by Nitesh on Dec 15, 2017 02:54 PM
agree. need a strong alternative to both BJP and congress. Both are failures.

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