Bail, not jail, is a dominant principle of criminal law practiced by every mature democracy and in India often in its breach. Be it A Raja or Kanimozhi in the 2G case, Suresh Kalmadi in the CWG case or Asaram, facing an unproven sexual assault charge, once a case becomes high profile courts are diffident to grant bail even if that flies against the express directive of the Supreme Court. Finally bail will be given by Supreme court and the matter will be heard by the lower courts and finally it will go in appeal. It is surprising that most of them are not aware of laws. It is a few who try to create a sensation.
The lower court did not wait for mandatory time allowed to the person declared found guilty as stipulated by the Hon'ble Supreme Court. However, in High Court, her case was adjourned compelling her stay in jail for few days more. In both ways Jailalitha has been forced to suffer. it could have been aavoided.
Re: Why this adjournment?
by Borowiack on Oct 01, 2014 01:09 PM
Ha Ha Ha. You have got a good humour sense. After sheer mockery of the whole judicial process by Jaya and Company, now they are relying on technicalities to wriggle them out of this verdict. This is a peculiar case where it dragged for 18 long years. The accused were indeed given sufficient time to explain their point in the end and then the judge pronounced the date of verdict. But even there, Jaya and Company tried every trick in the book to postpone it under some pretext or other citing security, law and order etc. Even on the 26th Sep, we had a petition at the Supreme Court to stay the verdict. Such was the way the whole judicial process became a laughing stock by the diabolical manoevures of Jaya and Company.
Re: Re: Why this adjournment?
by SRAO on Oct 01, 2014 01:55 PM
Both dravidian parties fooled TN people exploiting sentiments of language and culture,showing Hindi as a ghost.utter nonsense,better TN people look alternatives.Aryan and Dravidian words are propagated by British to suit their policy of divide and rule.There are neither Aryans nor dravidians.
Re: Re: Re: Why this adjournment?
by aam admi on Oct 01, 2014 03:36 PM
True, an artificial divide was created by British to rule India. And their Babus spread the poison being loyal to Master.
The whole problem lies at the doorsteps of our judicial system. The old adage "Justice delayed is justice denied" holds good at this point. If only this case had concluded within 3-4 years, then most of the suspicions that are being raised at this point of time would surely not have arised. The current generation are obviously not aware of the intolerable excesses commited by Jaya and Company between 1991-1996 literally taking the State for a ride. Unfortunately, due to the public short memory, she got reelected in 2001 and just used her political influence to overturn the corruption cases against her. She also through her numerous petitions and appeals just delayed this case inordinately knowing well that it was a water tight case where she had little headway. She did try to subvert this case too when it was conducted in Tamil Nadu through her abuse of power. It is for this reason, the Supreme Court transferred this case to Karnataka then. The Rs. 248 crore London Hotel case too was detached from this case since it was considered unviable to gather evidence to book the accused.If only it had been clubbed along with this case, it would still taken another 10 years to yield a verdict. Such is the speed with which our judiciary functions.
It was mandatory to declare punishment after declaration of finding guilty, however, that was not allowed in her case. Now the High Court judge adjourns hearing by which mental trauma of the victim will persist. this could have been avoided.
Re: Why this adjournment?
by Borowiack on Oct 01, 2014 01:01 PM
What are you really trying to say ? Do you seriously think that the accused were not given enough time to explain their case ? Hey man, this case just went for 18 long years and the accused were being given with every liberty, privilege that normally denied to even other celebrities forget the commoners.
After creating 33 Million Pantheons to worship, Indians (Tamilians) obviously are not mentally satisfied and still they crave for more and more deities. Yeh Dil Maange more is the Desi's (Tamilian) eternal desire ? What they do ? They start deifying some politicians and build a personality cult around them. They idolize them with sheer blind devotion that they become immune to their malfeasance/misdemenaours and then begun to defend their meanest acts by forwarding warped logic and strange arguments to defend their indefensible position. This disease is not limited to the illiterates but also the so-called educated who are even more unreasonable. Just see the extent of spontaneous outpouring of sentiments and emotions running high after Jaya was extended an adverse verdict after 18 long years. People came to the streets, shops and establishments shut, Old and middle women crying, girls commiting suicide, boys wailing, buses being burnt (thankfully we didn't see a repeat of Dharmapuri). The whole State of Tamil Nadu engulfed in a despondent and melancholy mood on seeing their Amma being convicted and incarcerated. They just target their political rivals and see that as their diabolicial act in implicating their Amma in the case totally forgetting that their Amma was indeed in the saddle as CM for over 10 of the 18 years when the case just stretched without cease due to the delaying tactics of their Amma.
Re: What kind of society we live in ?
by SRAO on Oct 01, 2014 02:03 PM
This nu-sense is not limited to TN,through out India politicians are commanding such support. Laloo,Mulayam kezriwal and so on
Re: What kind of society we live in ?
by trikarn on Oct 01, 2014 05:33 PM
hero worship is the bane of the tamils first they worshipped periar annaduray karunanidi now jaya tommorw it cud be stalin/alagari.
Re: What kind of society we live in ?
by partha sarathy on Oct 01, 2014 09:34 PM
Mr.borowiack,the points stated by you is correct except one statement where you said there was spontaneous outpouring of sentiments by tamilians.Not entire tamilians are in the category you said.All emotions and demonstrations in tamilnadu are set ups and arranged.Set up people came to streets.Shops and establishments were shut out of fear of damage by rowdy elements.Old and middle woman crying for being paid.Girls commiting suicide on their personal reasons which was coloured and linked to this.Buses were burnt by rowdy elements.Pl.note that the general public is totally isolated and quite.The state govt tacitly supported all atrocities.
Have some pity. She is a fatherless child. Her father died when she was 2.
Tell Jayalithaa/Mamata/Saradha Sudipta/Sahara Subrata/KFC Mallya/BRAHMINS to take their Caste share of land from India and go build their own nation as per "Communal Award". They're less than 1% in India. Leeches Cannot Live Independently.
Re: And
by Parthipan on Oct 01, 2014 09:18 PM
Another important point is her (JJ) life was spoiled by a short uglydog MGR, a keralite fellow who cheated poor TN people and ruled TN for 14 years without a single development in the state. TN people are lucky that this MGRdog dont have a child other wise the state would have been sold in second hand kerala.
Why do Congress Party beggars and parasites comment on anything about India?!
India has achieved what it has achieved by using the tax revenues collected from H1ndu tax payers over the last 6 decades!
Only thing these Congress Party beggars and parasites have contributed to India is being a burden to be borne by H1ndu tax payers!
These Congress Party beggars and parasites need to S T F U and be grateful that H1ndu tax payers have never complained about their hard earned money being spent on pampering and supporting these Congress Party beggars and parasites!
We can BUY the Justice In India . How a prisoner will get BAIL with out any valid reasons? " Section 389 states that pending any appeal by a convicted person, the Appellate Court may order that the execution of the sentence or order appealed against be suspended. Also, if the person is in confinement, that he or she be released on bail, or on own bond"
All Prisoners should apply for BAIL on SINGLE day then all can be released on BAIL
Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by kapil on Oct 01, 2014 12:04 PM
kangress people involved in it that is why she did not get. hope she will teach them a lesson once things are over.
Re: Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by DIVA KUMAR PACHIAPPAN on Oct 01, 2014 02:31 PM
yes, you are correct. She had just now dropped interest about scolding others and she did wonderful this minding her own business. Now she will come out and fill cases on others.
Re: Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by Borowiack on Oct 01, 2014 12:38 PM
Thankfully, UPA is not in power at the Centre as otherwise you would have invented one more reason to slam this verdict.
Re: Re: Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by martin descent on Oct 01, 2014 01:17 PM
"It is happening in Kaungrace ruled state you moron and no body else but Kaungrace is playing the game"
Re: Re: Re: Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by Borowiack on Oct 01, 2014 02:50 PM
You Moron. It is not Kangress or Karunanidhi who transferred this case to Karnataka. It is the Supreme Court of this Country which was not able to tolerate the abuse of power exercised by Jaya and Company to subvert the verdict in this particular case wherein her Government changed public prosecutors at will, replaced investigating persons and also put pressures on witnesses to retract their confessions. The Judge here taking cue from Jayalalitha didn't even enforce perjury charges on them. And so this was taken to the Supreme Court which transferred the case to Karnataka and it is not new. And the Supreme Court deserves such abuses too considering the way they delivered the TANSI judgement severely indicting her by even demanding her to return the TANSI land but strangely left her scot free making a mockery of the verdict.
Re: Re: Re: Re: laws have been made by human for human..
by Borowiack on Oct 01, 2014 02:50 PM
You Moron. It is not Kangress or Karunanidhi who transferred this case to Karnataka. It is the Supreme Court of this Country which was not able to tolerate the abuse of power exercised by Jaya and Company to subvert the verdict in this particular case wherein her Government changed public prosecutors at will, replaced investigating persons and also put pressures on witnesses to retract their confessions. The Judge here taking cue from Jayalalitha didn't even enforce perjury charges on them. And so this was taken to the Supreme Court which transferred the case to Karnataka and it is not new. And the Supreme Court deserves such abuses too considering the way they delivered the TANSI judgement severely indicting her by even demanding her to return the TANSI land but strangely left her scot free making a mockery of the verdict.
Re: When will DMK get its turn
by DIVA KUMAR PACHIAPPAN on Oct 01, 2014 02:35 PM
Why only DMK, what about Congress who has a major share. World commerce is not Vasco Da Gama. and you know who it is.
Can anyone make it known to many Indian ordinary citizen: What the law says about putting prisoners in a VVIP cell? How Person jailed on corruption charges remain VVIP? why VVIP prisoner cell to a corrupt person ??
Re: VVIP Prison Cell
by DIVA KUMAR PACHIAPPAN on Oct 01, 2014 02:40 PM
why court hearing is not live on television. How can you say Jaya is guilty. If she is found guilty then why do you have High court, supreme court. Remove this system and get our old system. Once verdict and one penalty. What you say is wrong today will be right tomorrow. What about bagatsing?
Re: Re: VVIP Prison Cell
by Soderling on Oct 01, 2014 04:58 PM
The Special Court has found her and accomplices guilty. Unless this is set aside by a Higher court, she remains guilty and a criminal sentenced for corruption. Are you so naive not even to realize this simple fact ? Really, where you people are mortgaging your brains before writing in this forum ? I just wonder ??
