They must create a precedent which must serve as a grim warning to future violators. Any leniency showed here would only still muddle the venal system wherein the violators would take the system for granted bypassing all norms and procedures to suit their personal interests. I hope the Supreme Court order is implemented in letter and spirit to evict the warring residents and pave the way for demolition.
Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Navratan Agrawal on Jun 21, 2014 12:36 PM
The decision is good but what penalty has imposed on the builder and BMC officials who kept eye blind at the time construction.
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Vascado on Jun 21, 2014 12:39 PM
Nobody is preventing in punishing the Builder and BMC Officials too. But the greedy residents should not go unpunished.
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by PRASANTA ROY on Jun 21, 2014 12:45 PM
Penalty should be for the end enjoyers only i. e. flat owners who purchase unauthorized flat for enjoying luxery flats at cheap price. THE COURT ORDER SHOULD BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED.
Re: Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Sanjay Shah on Jun 21, 2014 02:00 PM
you dont have the flat in the same society and you are not victim thats why you can write like this just think on humanity ground
Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Santosh Poojary on Jun 21, 2014 12:37 PM
The real Culprit, Buider, BMC officials, State Government to be blamed. But the people who spent their years earning to build a house are paying for inefficent governance.r
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Vascado on Jun 21, 2014 12:44 PM
These warring residents all seem to be highly educated and constitute the elitist segment and they are taking the law for granted even violating the Supreme Court order. They were calculative when they risked investing in this illegal venture. They very well know that the construction was illegal. But they still purchased it with the incentive of extracting hefty discount and relying on the venal system to bail them out in future by regularizing their illegal construction. It is their misfortune that matter went to the Courts and dragged on for more than a decade and now they have pay the price. Let us hope they are all evicted and demoltion is carried out which must serve as a grim warning to future violators.
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Vascado on Jun 21, 2014 12:45 PM
These warring residents all seem to be highly educated and constitute the elitist segment and they are taking the law for granted even violating the Supreme Court order. They were calculative when they risked investing in this illegal venture. They very well know that the construction was illegal. But they still purchased it with the incentive of extracting hefty discount and relying on the venal system to bail them out in future by regularizing their illegal construction. It is their misfortune that matter went to the Courts and dragged on for more than a decade and now they have pay the price. Let us hope they are all evicted and demoltion is carried out which must serve as a grim warning to future violators.
Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Vikrant Kumar on Jun 21, 2014 12:37 PM
What is your stand on slum dwellers of Mumbai who get to dwell illegally in slums created by your beloved secular parties to house their vote banks for all eternity?!
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by kumar kn on Jun 21, 2014 12:45 PM
All illegal slums in all cities are regularized by political parties for vote bank politics. But innocent victims are harassed by the govt. The Supreme Court instead of hauling up the govt and builders is punishing the innocent victims. It has not acted in a Humanitarian way.What is Modi doing? Why can't he tell the CM to go to the Supreme Court with a viable proposition to help the innocent victims?
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Rajiv on Jun 21, 2014 12:47 PM
You are correct but that should not be an excuse for these people to violate the law.
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by bigben bigben on Jun 21, 2014 12:47 PM
He has no stand on slum dwellers because he is a hypocrite.
Re: Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by Vascado on Jun 21, 2014 12:49 PM
You need to know my stand. Many such illegal slum dwelling units have been evicted in the past too by court orders and I support that. The only difference here is that while the Campa cola residents are filthily rich and educated who have brazenly violated all norms and procedures for pecuniary benefit, the slum dwellers are illiterates who are not aware of laws and norms and are extremely poor just occyping a filthy place near a sewage canal to earn their livelihood.
Re: A PRECEDENT MUST BE CREATED TO ISSUE A STERN WARNING
by bigben bigben on Jun 21, 2014 12:46 PM
What future violators? There are thousands of current violators. Do you or the government or the courts have the guts to do anything about current violations?
s one more building which is illegal has to be demolished..we will make a huge mass media campagin for its awarness..The one of soldiers plot being robbed by ministers.
Country wide real estate businesses do such illegal things and assure the buyers that one day it will regularised after paying a penalty. The govt authorities are aware of this and allow the builders to do this. It is not the builders alone, but the govt authorities who are suppose to uphold the law should be given rigorous imprisonment. The buyers are in some way gullible but a good number do understand the law. The buyers are also equally at fault. The SC is right when they said the citizens new that it is illegal and yet chose to buy it. The SC should take suo motto cognizance and call the BMC and the builder to court and pass strong punishments to them also. The real law breakers are getting away. Then the SC court will have more respect for what they have done. Long years back, the SC had given a judgement that the govt has no right to legalise an illegal construction much against the zoning regulations.But such illegality is going on. Time that the SC cracked down for contempt of court. And hope the new Modi govt does something to stop this.
Re: A lesson for all citizens
by Vascado on Jun 21, 2014 12:34 PM
The enraged residents all seem highly qualified and educated and part of the elitist segment. What has attracted them to this investment is pure greed. They probably wanted to take advantage of the venal system where illegal are made legal after a penalty and since these flats were illegal, they were given a hefty discount by the builders. Ofcourse, you are right that punishment should not just be limited to the residents alone but must extend to BMC, Builder and Bureaucracy.
Go to the President of India for a mercy Plea Only he can avert the Supreme Court orders he has the Powers to do so Take a signature campaign to him he can Pardon and save your houses.
Re: Mercy Plea
by Rajiv on Jun 21, 2014 12:23 PM
What sort of mercy and why? Do illegal act deliberately expecting regularization and then expect mercy? Why? The law has been framed just to make a mockery? Why not shut Supreme Court and just have President who keeps on pardoning the offenders? Why not jus abolish all the laws? Those who follow the law are fools or what?
Re: Re: Mercy Plea
by bigben bigben on Jun 21, 2014 12:55 PM
What is the supreme court doing about tens of thousands of other similar illegal structures and millions of illegal slums?
Law applies selectively or on Rajiv's opinions or what?
Re: It is wrong
by Bikash Biswas on Jun 21, 2014 12:22 PM
No dear, they are trying to forcefully legalise an illegal building. They have enjoyed very low price of the flats and knew fully well that they were supporting illegal thing for the last 25 years. The question is why it has not been demolished so far. Who have patronised them?
Re: Re: It is wrong
by bigben bigben on Jun 21, 2014 12:57 PM
If you think they have enjoyed very low price, then take the difference in fair market value and apply an additional fine.
What is the point of destroying a 50 crore asset of the country? That 50 crore can be used to build 100km of road somewhere.
Re: Re: It is wrong
by bigben bigben on Jun 21, 2014 01:01 PM
It is injustice if law is selectively applied.
It would be justice if the court immediately asks for investigation of tens of thousands of other similar illegal structures across the country and asks them to be demolished in a time bound manner (1 year). Also justice would be if courts also overturn the regularization of thousands of slums for political purposes.
Until law is uniformly applied it is injustice.
For example, if a murderer is poor he is hanged but if a murderer is rich he is freed. Is that justice?
The residents should go to the builder's office house and offices and keep them under siege. He cheated them. They should not allow him to do business instead of keeping these government employees tensed. Ofcourse these officers are also part and parcel of the misdeeds. If they are allowed to carry on with illegal floors, full of Bombay will be filled with more and more illegal floors which will be a chaos situation. Go to the Builder and keep him, his family and associates captive.
Campa Cola residents who are going to be forcefully evicted had a better chance of keeping their homes if they were Mumbai slum dwellers or had established places of worship especially of minority religion on the terraces of these to-be-partly-demolished buildings!
Let this be a lesson to all tax paying, law abiding citizens of India!
In India, it pays handsomely to be illegal and live illegally!
Re: Better
by niyama on Jun 21, 2014 12:15 PM
Yes. Medha Patkar can go on fast to get a piece of slum allocated to them. They can construct their Bunglow in that 100 sqft land.