It is a matter of shame and concern that officers retired from Indian army are defending acts of genocide. Were voter lists not used? Why were Modi's ministers sitting in police control rooms and guiding the police and thier Bajrangi rioters? why did the recently convicted Babu bajrangi name Modi as the man who was directing the events? Why can't Modi put out the conversations that happended between the police rooms and CM office during this time and clear the air once and for all. The fact is Colonel Purohit was not alone and if this is how sections of Indian military think and actually extoll and defend indefensible acts of brutality agianst feloow citizensm, and even justify as simmering discontent, then India stares at a precipice and a civil war is not only near us but perhaps sure to happen. The indifference of the police to the pleas of various Muslim communities is well documented by internation human rights organizations, and the govts role in fanning the hatred such as parading the bodies all videogrpahed by news channels. Rajdharm was the casualty - Athale and if modi did not allow it 2008, then it was becuase he knew that Indian society had no stomach to accept anymore hypocrisy and even more, his political ambitions from here onwards needed a widening of his base, from just fascists!
Re: concern
by savji on Mar 22, 2013 05:50 PM
were u their when the so called ministers were sitting in police control rooms..have u seen them provoking bajrangis ? dont baark whatever u have heard from paid media and dalal's like barkha or rajdeep sardesai..
Re: Re: Re: concern
by savji on Mar 22, 2013 05:53 PM
it is indeed congress which is spending 100 crore to recruit A**s holes like u to spread incorrect info on Gujarat Riots.
Re: Re: concern
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 06:48 PM
well said !!! And where was this fool guy when M'barbars and cowards were running havoc in Sabarmati express to burn down 58 sleeping H's, which resulted in H'backlash !!!!!
Re: concern
by Mr Walker on Mar 22, 2013 05:56 PM
It is a matter of shame that some vested interests only harp on gujarat riots and deliberately forget everything else.
You have ignored sections of this article which answer your questions as well as pose other questions which you completely ignore.
By the way people like you and you lobbies are not really known for their truth tellin abilities you can only fool US and dumbos like them.
Re: Re: Re: concern
by savji on Mar 22, 2013 06:09 PM
now give a single example of a Minister who is jailed for Kashmiri Panditss gnocide, Sikh masacre.. Now this should ring a bell to you as the same courts have given clean chit to Modi.
Re: Re: Re: Re: concern
by Hayat on Mar 22, 2013 06:14 PM
Wrong. SIT has given a supposed clean chit. But Amicus Curae appointed by same courts stated otherwise. And if a minister has been implicated then its clear that the govt had a role. Don't try the argument that Pakistan makes on similar acts agaisnt India. And if convictions have happnd here then no credit to Modi and his criminal regime. It is civil society that has brought it so far despite foot dragging.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: concern
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 06:55 PM
Hayat,
U fool talk about americans ? Who created Osama for their own interest ? Are they followers of all righteousness ? Then why they didnot blacklist kungressis and rajiv and sonia for butchering 4000 sardars in delhi 1984 ?
Re: concern
by bob mathews on Mar 22, 2013 06:04 PM
It won't be long before the SC will convict the goons behind the Gujarat genocide and confirm NaMo's role in instigating the rioters. Be patient.
Re: Re: concern
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 06:45 PM
Dear Bobby dude,
Your ingonarance is unpardonable !!!
Modi was never involved in Guj'riots. It was created by barbar M's by burning 58 sleeping people ... and H"backlash started.
What Modi did was immedeately declaring emergency and calling military and thereby reducing the impact as much as possible !!!
If he wanted othersise, he could have waited for seven days like khangressis, who butchered 4000 sardars in delhi without police without military, no-MEDIA reports, no-court verdict, everything under carpet !!!
Re: concern
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 06:46 PM
Hayat,
Your ingonarance is unpardonable !!!
Modi was never involved in Guj'riots. It was created by barbar M's by burning 58 sleeping people ... and H"backlash started.
What Modi did was immedeately declaring emergency and calling military and thereby reducing the impact as much as possible !!!
If he wanted othersise, he could have waited for seven days like khangressis, who butchered 4000 sardars in delhi without police without military, no-MEDIA reports, no-court verdict, everything under carpet !!!
Congrats, after a very long time i have seen that rediff has published a really simple and well written article, stating the facts in right chronological order, no one writes or thinks of the reasons for the riots to take place. The article is an eye opener.
Re: Re: Kudos...
by rajesh soni on Mar 22, 2013 06:10 PM
What do you know about Col. Purohit? Just for the sake of minority appeasement you cannot blame peacelover hindus who allowed nomadic pirates from desert in india and now see our own ppl are barking against us.
Right wing extremist elements did target the Mus1im community in the surcharged environment after the Godhra train burning! Gujrat riots were indeed a blot on the secular & democratic character of the country. But it is also a fact that many people were fed up with the belligerence of the radicals & extremists from the Mus1im community and the riots were a reaction to the murder of kar sevaks in Sabarmati Express.
Were H1ndu rioters not been fired at or even ministers & politicians convicted for the riots? Have people not been convicted for the Best Bakery, Sardarpura, Ode Village and Naroda Patiya riots? Does it not show that the the judiciary ensures justice? How many FIRS or cases against Modi exist? So how can Modi be punished to satisfy some self appointed super secularists?
Contrast the convictions in Gujrat with convictions against Congress politicians in the anti Sikh riots. Was Rajiv Gandhi, the architect of genocide? Or have Rajasthan CM Gehlot or Assam CM Gogoi been branded for the Bahratpur riots or the riots in the BTAD region in Assam respectively?
How can one therefore accuse Modi's government of perpetrating genocide? Did the riots not have innocent "H1ndu" victims too? Just looking at only the destruction or deaths in the minority community is clearly case of overkill and blaming Modi for genocide is a distortion of the truth.
Wharton has indeed messed up and bowed down to the pseudo-secularist mafia!
In Hindsight it won modi 3 terms and perhaphs couple of more... the scale and pride with which ordinary gujratis took arms in there hands was unprecedented.
Re: Gujrat riots were impressive
by Christ on Mar 22, 2013 05:18 PM
perhaphs modi came this far , was because of Gujrat riots, i dont think he would be regretting it even a bit of it though he may not have orchestered it,.. it was media which fanned the fire
Re: Re: Gujrat riots were impressive
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 05:28 PM
Modi was never involved in Guj'riots. It was created by barbar M's by burning 58 sleeping people ... and H"backlash started.
What Modi did was immedeately declaring emergency and calling military and thereby reducing the impact as much as possible !!!
If he wanted othersise, he could have waited for seven days like khangressis, who butchered 4000 sardars in delhi without police without military, no-MEDIA reports, no-court verdict, everything under carpet !!!
no matter how sustained champaign is run by maratha and dhokla sanghis there will always be the blood of innocents catching him at every step and will remind all of us about how deliberately and withcold blooded calculation he and his administration,played the act of massacre.he is now wearing the cloak of development and showing himself as a visionery to hide the stains of innocent martyrs.Like any other politicsl figure he must have resigned accepting failure of his govt in protecting the karsevaks returning from the demolished babari mosque and to save the lives of innocent gujrati muslms.instead it was he who chose the path of arrogance to show that he can get away with all that blood being in control of the affairs.
Re: never
by Prasad on Mar 22, 2013 05:11 PM
Keeping weeping. Nothing is going to come out of it. If you katpriks dont want to join the mainstream you will continue to be backward and isolated. The simple precursor to the Gujarat riots was the Godhra incident in which the perpetrators were katpirks. So simply put the riots were provoked by katpricks.
Re: Re: never
by on Mar 22, 2013 05:24 PM
Burning of Sabaramati train in Godra Station never be forgotten, and Culprits will be haunted out and put in to the gallows. After that the true piece will come in the mother land INDIA. Those who perpetrated this heinous crimes will never be allowed to go scot free.
Re: Re: Modi
by Yuvraj Rohan on Mar 22, 2013 05:29 PM
Modi was never involved in Guj'riots. It was created by barbar M's by burning 58 sleeping people ... and H"backlash started.
What Modi did was immedeately declaring emergency and calling military and thereby reducing the impact as much as possible !!!
If he wanted othersise, he could have waited for seven days like khangressis, who butchered 4000 sardars in delhi without police without military, no-MEDIA reports, no-court verdict, everything under carpet !!!