If one do not want any benefit under govt. schemes they do not need Aadhaar. In that sense it is voluntary. One can live in India without Aadhaar, Voters Card, etc. but cannot take any advantage of govt. schemes. By Aadhaar Govt. try to ensure that benefit of the Govt. schemes are getting to the right person. What is wrong in this process?
Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are voluntary.
by Argumentative Indian on Oct 20, 2012 10:27 AM
I have never and will never LIKE to take any benefit from GOI or anyone else. I don't have a ration card, use around 4 gas cylinders a year only because in my family no one eats lunch at home during the week, and on weekends we would usually dine out. I work hard, earn well, pay my full share of taxes & live well.
Recently, the bank where my salary account is maintained, has started sending regular smses following up with us, now please understand I am an exec in an MNC, with a high annual salary, which the bank knows since the salary is deposited with the same bank(!), to submit our 'Aadhar Card Number' to allow them to update their records. Funnily, this is a large private sector bank! I also have another savings account with SBI (IMHO - India's BEST Bank) and they have no such issues!
My concern is that today Aadhar is voluntary, because the scheme has just started. Tomorrow, once the GOI can get about 30% of the population in, they can easily make one or two essential things (for people of my class) compulsory under Aadhar, like say Driving License or Passport renewal, then I have to queue up and submit my bio - metric data.
Re: Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are voluntary.
by mukesh kamath on Oct 20, 2012 01:15 PM
@Argumentative Indian.... see da you are rich and don't need govt. handouts agreed. There are two more categories. Poor who need help and not so poor who would not mind pocketing a grand or two from the govt. The govt. cannot afford to give handouts to both the last two categories. It has to exclude the not so poor and include the poor in its schemes. The not so poor would use unfair means to get hold of whatever crumbs the govt throws. Under such circumstances biometrics come to the aid of the govt to differentiate the last two categories. I hope you did'nt mind me sharing of a piece of my mind which i hope is definitely not rubbish. My advice to you is to kindly ignore the message from the private bank and proceed to do whatever it is that you do for a living. I hope you lead a liberated, free and contended life.
Re: Re: Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are voluntary.
by Argumentative Indian on Oct 20, 2012 04:58 PM
@ Mukesh Kamath, I understand & completely agree with your views. Biometrics comes to the aid of the govt to differentiate the poor & not so poor, categories, completely agree.
My concern is that, WHY is it MANDATORY (under citizenship act) to register for NPR (National Population Register) which is ALSO a Biometric system, if you have NOT applied for Adhar?
This is regardless of whether you want GOI help or not!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are volunt
by Argumentative Indian on Oct 20, 2012 04:59 PM
@ Mukesh Kamath, Please note that I have not found anyone's "piece of mind", "rubbish". I respect people.
For above type of comments, may I suggest you seek out the services of Shri Rama Anne?
Thanks for your advise.
I presently lead a liberated, free & contended life and work hard to sustain the same.
Re: Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are voluntary.
by rama anne on Oct 20, 2012 10:44 AM
@Argumentative Indian ---- what a rubbish statement
Re: Re: Re: Aadhaar, Voters Id, Ration Card .. all are voluntary.
by Argumentative Indian on Oct 20, 2012 11:18 AM
@ Rama Anne, Thanks for sharing the contents of your mind.
This is a citizenship to share the state resources by the Global traffickers. It is an Idenfitication which will be helpful for the human trafficking and keeping a check on the trafficked population due to biometric identity. US, UK, Australia have already rejected it and even Indian Cabinet also rejected this but still pursing.
we have had too many identifications pancard,passport,ration card, election card and what not almost all of these have been misused in past and the data is often corrupted so has been the case with uid and aadhar
the govt. should have tried to clean up one of the existing schemes and use it rather than adding a new one and wasting peoples money
also initially the govt. said uid was voluntary but now the govt. seems to forcing it on people this is not right
our govt. seems to be making flip flops every single day and losing its trust
Re: we have had too many ids
by Ramakrishnan Rajasubramanian on Oct 20, 2012 09:56 AM
Our Government "is not losing its trust", everybody's view is that "our Government has already lost its trust" by wasting public money in one way or the other.
author must be bl00dy ignorant and uneducated as well, doesn't know how it works or benefits of UID. do more research before writing nonsense. just find how many cards are in India and how much each cost per person, how they can be tampered and also misused and no central database as compare to UID
Re: author must be bl00dy ignorant and uneducated as well, doesn'
by Mr Walker on Oct 20, 2012 08:43 AM
pancard, passport ,ration card, senior citizen card, i can go on
the way data can be misused is lot someone if they get your biometric data can clone your identity and a criminal can use it and implicate you if that happens you would be in deep trouble and your entire life ruined
Re: Re: author must be bl00dy ignorant and uneducated as well, do
by Ramakrishnan Rajasubramanian on Oct 20, 2012 10:00 AM
U R right. When the system of electronic ballot has not been implemented in USA sofar and only the old system continues, in India the EVMs are implemented. Who is listening to public view? The Government is doing as per their prerogative. No Government has come forward to bring back the Indian money in lakhs of crores kept in foreign banks. They are just talking, talking and nothing has emerged.
Re: author must be bl00dy ignorant and uneducated as well, doesn'
by Hebbar R on Oct 20, 2012 11:51 AM
Issue here is not about what UID can be used for. The issue is the promise of the Govt that UID would be voluntary. Now the Govt is making it compulsary by linking it to various benefits. That is ethically wrong by the Govt.
.....misusing NCTC[a clone of USA's DHS].This is for converting India into a police state ruled over by the Globalists of which M M Singh is one being member,Club Of Rome,a child of the more powerful,Club Of 300. Please google for:- Club Of 300
