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Don't forget the IAF's role in the '62 war!


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Sameer Wagle
62 war and the IAF
by Sameer Wagle on Nov 23, 2012 10:14 AM

Dear MP,

Very well thought out and a logically written article. I don't expect anything less from my course-mate.
I fully agree that wars are won or lost due to political will more than the actual military might.

Warmest regards,

Sameer Wagle

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Ayyappan Ramasamy
We do not need explanation for a failure...
by Ayyappan Ramasamy on Nov 23, 2012 03:41 AM  | Hide replies

No citizen will accept war failure.
No one will accept explanation for it.
Only ,we need history of war, to win the next war.
We should have recovered the lost land &
resources. No military & political WILL is with India. We are backward on military, when comparing China. Our premier institutes like IITs & IISc are making resources for foreign companies & hence foreign defence. Atleast now, we should change education policy on premier institutes. May be, Discounted tution fees can be restricted to only 25-50% of students. Normal tution fees should be higher to support their educational programs. But few professors are mis-using the funds, as they do not have proper accountability. i.e scams are happening in academic institutions as well.

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anurag
Re: We do not need explanation for a failure...
by anurag on Nov 23, 2012 08:11 AM
well said

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Ayon Pradhan
Nehru's India...
by Ayon Pradhan on Nov 23, 2012 03:36 AM  | Hide replies

Nehru's India consisted of all he could see standing atop the tallest building in Delhi. And that hasn't changed for any other leader or government since...

When one hears of the Battle of Warsaw, when not a single building was left unscathed by bombing, or a the Battle of Britain when the RAF took to the air day and night to fight he Luffwaffe, or the Battle of Stalingrad when every street corner and house was turned into a battlefield, or the Battle of the Bulge, where American soldiers stood surround and fought, or the Battle of Berlin where the Russians lost over 80,000 dead taking the city, one wonders if the Indian government or the people will have the same will to fight to the end. The Indian Armed Forces will fight their fight to the very end. But will the rest of us stand beside them.

And the one cannot be surprised if there are insurgencies in the far flung states knowing that when things get tough, they will be sacrified very easily.

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Tushar Ray
Re: Nehru's India...
by Tushar Ray on Nov 24, 2012 11:12 AM
Ayon ..India, never went through the acid test, we got our freedom too easily. In a way the British rule was a boon for Indians, as it left a lot of infrastructure like roads, railway networks, airfields, a trained army, railway personnel etc. Left to us we might have been statisfied with the G.T. Road which Sher Shah built.
The Indian government has hardly ever reached out to the helpless people of NorthEast majority of whom still find it difficult to identify with the mainstream Indian society

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Sandeep
Nehru was like Rahul Gandhi
by Sandeep on Nov 23, 2012 03:33 AM  | Hide replies

Nehru was rich kid who grew up in influential family. He studied in England and so had natural command
over English. But his thoughts were not matured just like Rahul Gandhi. So he could not grasp the

situation and the things to be done in a particular situation. He did not have analytical skills to
understand or judge the leaders that were in India before his time. eg. He called Shivaji Maharaj as
misguided patriot. Shivaji Maharaj could have easily lead a life of luxury. He need not have taken life threatening risks if he just wanted to live in luxury. But he wanted independence from the oppressive

rule of the sultans in those days for the poor people in India. His vision was not limited for Maharashtra. Shivaji's military skills and acumen are exceptional. But when Nehru thinks Shivaji was misguided, it shows is level of thinking. How can such a leader lead the country to success.
Nehru thought that he had a natural claim to rule the poor people in India on account of his high class
background. But he also had inferiority complex vis-a-vis the British. We see the same traits in Rahul
Gandhi when he takes around the visiting British ministers in India.


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sanjoy basu
Re: Nehru was like Rahul Gandhi
by sanjoy basu on Dec 04, 2012 05:52 PM
Just because this family has named all roads and airports after themselves, and surround themselves with chamchas, it does not mean they can compare themselves to the real heros of our history such as Shivaji, Rana Pratap, Guru Gobind etc.
This dynasty will be in dust bin soon while people of India will forever remember the real heros.

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Sandeep
Real problem with India is Gandhiji and Nehru
by Sandeep on Nov 23, 2012 03:13 AM  | Hide replies

I respect Gandhiji, but he set a bad precedent by appointing Nehru as PM against the vote of 11 for Sardar Patel and 3 for Nehru. Lokmanya Tilak has said, that a popular leader MUST adhere to popular will. But Gandhiji did not do that. Next Nehru started imposing his will on the populace rather than do the people's will. Now Manmohan singh and Rahul sonia are doing their will on the people of India. We need Indira Gandhi again. No leader stood up to the foreign powers the way she did.



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Sandeep
Re: Real problem with India is Gandhiji and Nehru
by Sandeep on Nov 23, 2012 03:35 AM
Nehr*u was rich kid who grew up in influential family. He studied in England and so had natural command

over English. But his thoughts were not matured just like Rah*ul Ga*ndhi. So he could not grasp the

situation and the things to be done in a particular situation. He did not have analytical skills to

understand or judge the leaders that were in India before his time. eg. He called Shivaji Maharaj as

misguided patriot. Shivaji Maharaj could have easily lead a life of luxury. He need not have taken life threatening risks if he just wanted to live in luxury. But he wanted independence from the oppressive

rule of the sultans in those days for the poor people in India. His vision was not limited for

Maharashtra. Shivaji's military skills and acumen are exceptional. But when Nehru thinks Shivaji was

misguided, it shows how hollow Nehru's head was. How can such a leader lead the country to success. Nehru thought that he had a natural claim to rule the poor people in India on account of his high class
background. But he also had inferiority complex vis-a-vis the British. We see the same traits in Rahu*l Ga*ndhi when he takes around the visiting British ministers in India.


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R Chakravarti
Aksai Chin
by R Chakravarti on Nov 22, 2012 09:46 PM  | Hide replies

I thought China occupied it long before 1962 but we didn't detect it for a long time. Then Nehru tried to play it down ("Not a blade of grass grows there"). But they built a major highway. Grass is not the only important thing!

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raman  sandhu
DO or DIE
by raman sandhu on Nov 22, 2012 09:43 PM

We have to be very strong from inner of the Country? Our soldiers are too brave that they are capable to save us. But y in strong technical period we are far behind from new attacking techniques.
Israle and Philistine are good weapons maker after USSR in case of technical design are these all three are Indias best friends.
I urge the misniters at least once a day in a year ..try to donate as much as you can to the defence of ARMY. hahaha no to the defence minister.
If something goes wrong when Parliament was attacked then all ministers who enjoying life with their families will never see them. It was braveness of our soldiers who fought and save them that time.

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kamal harlalka
india strategy in war
by kamal harlalka on Nov 22, 2012 07:43 PM

see except for 1971 war we hv fought very badly. in kargil also we got so many soldiers and young officers killed as we decided not to cross LOC. IN MILITARY, the first strategy is to cut ur enemy as deep as possible and than think. see in 1962 china cut into aksai chin and kept it if desired they could hv kept bobdila etc. we indians are losy fighters always bound by this or that. whereas everything is fair in war nd love.

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Om Shanti
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by Om Shanti on Nov 22, 2012 06:55 PM  | Hide replies

Is rediff-become Mad?
why every alternative day 1962 ?
Is there no other important issue ?
AllThieves and CriminalsAnd TraitorsAre inside the country,not beyond the borders.


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