It is obvious that there were no roits in karachi before Advani rath yatra and before Godhra incident. the clashes have started only after that in Karachi. Testis Shit_AL_wad is going to petition supreme court of pakis_tran to start an enquiry commision about the role of Advani and Modi about roits in Karachi.The Pashto people killing India returned Mohajirs may be Rss men wearing Poshto dress
Re: Karachi Bloodbath: It is Mohajir Vs Pushtuns
by guy giggling on Sep 20, 2011 08:07 PM
Yeah! definitely, I routinely gets calls from them telling him that their lives are under threat and they can see somebody wearing a Tilak standing in front of their home.
TheSaudi version ofIslam will only create problems; it is the tolerant version ofIslam practiced at Dubai, Bahrain and Turkey and of course the SufiIslam of the Indian sub-continent that will bring some peace to theMsulims all over the world.
Re: @ Mohammed Abdullah
by HowAboutThis on Sep 20, 2011 08:08 PM
Religion is just set of beliefs and food habits. Issue is with economy and how to feed its citizens.
Government can't have work with no differences. To create issues for government bread and butter, these issues will be exploited.
If Saudi islam is tolerant or Sufi Islam is tolerant or better than others, why did they kept on migrating to other parts except for bread and butters which were not available to them during those times?.
Current Iran and Saudi Arabia are doing well in economy due to oil revenues, why can't it take all those migrated people back to restore them with bread and butter as all belonged to their respective tolerant religion?.
When westeners or europeans or arabs colonize or make investments in fforeign lands, first thing they will do is kick out locals and bring non-locals for non-resisting cheap labour.
They will try to reap maximum returns on their investments by instigating locals and non-locals. Europeans or Westeners in colonized countries are not doing any social service with their investments as they are supposed to pay dividends to original investors.
Whereever Europeans, USA or Arabs colonised or invested, you will these religious persecutioins, holocausts, ethnic fightings and blah blah....
Re: @ Mohammed Abdullah
by Mohammed Abdullah on Sep 20, 2011 08:16 PM
Sufism is the psychological disease. It is the mediaval and pre-islamic way of pagan tradition.
Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Behrain or Turkey are Sunni Dominated Muslim regions.
With persecution of Sufists or Pagan tribes, Mohammed created Islam religion.
With death of Mohammed, muslims were divided into Sunni and Shia sects. They just differe only politically saying who should rule. Either the blood related to Mohammed or democratically where people elect leader.
Sunni makes their eligible leader elected by people, while Shia makes blood related to Mohammed rule the region.
Current Shiates prefers Imam as their boss.
Mohammed and his parents were sufi and paganistic before he created Islam by persecuting pagan tribes praying totems etc,.
Current Sufi were the remnants of those pre-islamic arabian tribes who preserved those praying on tombs(deads). Initially, it was the rulers dead bodies, now it can be saints or any notable dead bodies too.
Mohajir meaning 'migrants' is a term used typically for the people who migrated to pakistan. Even after nearly 65 lus years of partition this term is still in usage in pak to differentiate between people of their own religion.
Re: Mohajir
by Killer Shrimps on Sep 20, 2011 07:27 PM
Karachi is burdened with migrants and beggars who keep on migrating on name of God and Religion. That reached a situation where killing spree started.
Decentralization of Karachi and kicking out Pasthuns into Afghan will lessen the burden on Karachi.
Migrants should be tagged with visa and kicked out after imparting some awareness or using their service for pay and should never be allowed to settle for good.
Re: Re: Re: Mohajir
by Killer Shrimps on Sep 20, 2011 07:56 PM
Pathuns are original Afghan tribes. Islam invasion converted them into Islam. Pasthuns were just tribes with no Islam religion to them.
Afghanistan belongs to Pasthun tribes. Migrants from Central Asia, Iran and British and Russia were responsible to kicking those native Pasthuns towards Pakistan.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Mohajir
by guy giggling on Sep 20, 2011 08:09 PM
what about... say Pakisthanis, weren't they converted to Islam by invaders? shouldn't they be kicked out of Pakisthan and pakisthan handed over to Indians?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mohajir
by Open Theatre on Sep 20, 2011 08:26 PM
Outside Arabia is through conversion by will , by force, by invasion, by jobs or by taxes.
People wants jobs and conforts. Will convert if they are enslaved , discriminated or scared.
Re: Re: Mohajir
by DotMetrix on Sep 20, 2011 08:04 PM
you are true dear They are antinational by birth. If you encourage them than they will backstabe you like india before.
Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Ashish Sharma on Sep 20, 2011 07:03 PM
India gave that land to them to create a nation, then funded their nation... it's time to take it back if they continue to behave like a brat.
Re: Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Killer Shrimps on Sep 20, 2011 07:24 PM
Pakistan should invest in Afghanistan and openly fight against Talibans in Afghanistan to develop Afghanistan so that Pasthuns will go back to their provinces loosening burden on Pakistan soil.
Accepting innumerable immigrants on name of religion or race will create the problems without adequate control like western countries.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Open Theatre on Sep 20, 2011 08:31 PM
Both punjabis in Pakistan and India were enslaved and accepted Sufi based shrines in praying dead bodies.
Some punjab parts went to Pakistan and some stayed in India.
Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by sandeep on Sep 20, 2011 07:31 PM
Bloody xavens destroyed scores of cultures of americas & root cvause for two world wars & nuked hero-nagasaki now u want that pak to accept christinaty to destroy itself..........
Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Mohammed Abdullah on Sep 20, 2011 07:18 PM
Pakistan can't attain stability unless, these converted and migrated muslims understand and accept only Sunni Islam.
Saudi Arabia is trying from several decades to make these converted muslims to renounce shia, sufi and pagan mentality to blend with single Sunni Islam.
Unless, all merge into Sunni Muslims, problems of Pakistan will never be solved. Saudi Arabia will renounce economical aid and jobs in Middle East , if no concrete steps are taken by pakistan political circles to blend all into single Sunni sect.
There is no difference in praying Allah in either Sunni and Shiates except political struggle leading to destruction and mistrust among sons of same Allah.
Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Raghu on Sep 20, 2011 07:22 PM
TheSaudis could not do that in their own country; despite persecution, there are still about 15%Shias inSaudiArabia.
the problems are due to the intolearntWahabiSalafiIslam exported by theSaudis all over the world.
Re: Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Killer Shrimps on Sep 20, 2011 07:30 PM
Saudi's have control through systematic visa and tracking system. Shia rise will kept in control and will be persecuted or kicked out in other provinces if a situation demands.
The problem of Saudi Arabia is, how long can they fool citizens on name of Monarchy and Allah fear. Days are numbered for Saudi Arabia towards democracy.
The current Shaik Abdullah may be the last stable King of Saudi Arabia with no major protests for democracy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Raghu on Sep 20, 2011 07:34 PM
The present king of Saudi is more progressive than all other rulers of theArabianCountries; co-educationis allowed at the newly established KAUSAT (KingAbdullahUniversity of Science andTechnology). EvenHeadScarf is not compulsory there.
It is theMuslims from the Indian sub-continent (India, Pak and Bengla) who are trying to be more loyal than the king.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: You need Narendra Modi
by Killer Shrimps on Sep 20, 2011 07:52 PM
Not just South Asian countries, even from Indonesia, Phillipines, Srlanaka are more or less same on Saudi Arabia.
Current Saudi King is respected for his simplicity and listening with patience with donations to ignorants and desert dwellers installed as sheiks in various provinces of Saudi.
Once ignoratns and desert dwellers get education or desire to stand on their legs without fawning to King, things will backfire.
If Saudi economy comes down or oil revenues comes down, or if global debt crisis effects Saudi, everything will become upside down.
Saudi in that situation will have to kick out converted or non-converted people. South Asia will be first in that choice.
Current King Abdullah may be the last stable monarch for Saudi Arabia to move towards democracy.
