Pakisthan should attack india and lets see some fun happening which was missing for last 40 years Pakisthan should start war and win and can take over kashmir!
Re: To have Fun
by rahul m on Jan 08, 2011 01:47 AM
ya sure,just the nuclear arms needs to be kept aside.pak cannot sustain war with india for too long,may be 2 weeks maximum.then u will surrender as was done earlier with creation of Bangladesh.this time you will not just loose kashmir but also creation of baluchistan as new country.
Both India and Pakistan are on the same track of devstation. one with evil corruptions and every day tamasha with no sense of resposibility and another with fantism and terrorism. Both countries end result is same. and sooner or later we are all going to witness their downfalls.
Re: Both are same in one way or another...
by huma abid on Jan 07, 2011 11:48 PM
corruption at TOP level in India is same as in USA. It does not matter much.
But corruption at lower levels is a serious problem in India.
Re: Both are same in one way or another...
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 01:57 AM
I wonder during their downfalls, whether we will be there to witness it or not..
Re: Re: Both are same in one way or another...
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 01:58 AM
Just in case, you really want to witness their downfall, then I advise you not to go to theatres, markets, railway stations etc anytime in your life..
Re: Both are same in one way or another...
by huma abid on Jan 07, 2011 11:51 PM
We should learn to live with 5% kickbacks to ministers because a) It does not affect our progress, b) no matter what, it wont go away.
But There should be no corruption at lower levels. We must pressurize govts to give us clean system at that level
Re: If there was no Majority Communalism
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 02:01 AM
We are seeing it in a "great" country like pakistan where eventhough there is no majority communalism, people have great ideology called Islamism..
Re: Re: If there was no Majority Communalism
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 02:03 AM
We are also seeing how personal laws are not bothering anyone..such as how when a women rped by her father in law and when she approached the mullah board, they advised her husband to divorce her since she is now haraam..
Re: Re: Re: If there was no Majority Communalism
by deleted on Jan 08, 2011 05:14 AM
u r an ignorant fool, u did not read the subsequent news, her allegations on her father in law was just a frame up, and false. The media hyped it in the begining b'cos they r also biased like u
India criticizing Pakistan's religious establishment is like the kettle calling the pot black.India is far worse than Pak in this aspect. Imagine if some one insulted any of the Hindu Gods what would be the consequence. Leave alone religion even in politics there is no tolerance. Lets not forget how the poor woman Arundhati Roy is constantly villified and threatened with jail because of her outspoken views. Remember how Jasawant singh was kicked out of the BJP party just because he spoke slighly positive of Jinnah as a personality.When there is no tolerance even in academia or political expressions one can imagine the consequence if Hindu religion is insulted or challenged in India. nearly 3000 members of the minorities were slaughtered worst than dogs and insects on mere suspicion of a crime which was later proved to be untrue. So please india look into the mirror first before you so eagerly jump to conclusions about your small neighbouring country.
Re: India and Pak
by huma abid on Jan 07, 2011 11:40 PM
If you are from Pakistan, please let us know what is truth in allegations that Blasphemy laws are tools to settle score with non mu -zlim adversaries ??
Re: India and Pak
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 02:11 AM
maybe some of us don't have religious tolerance, but you guys don't even know what tolerance is. In fact, in pakistan all that is taught in subjects like maths, science, social studies etc are only how jehad is the best thing, how shadad is nice, how hindus are bad...History is not taught objectively to you..in this case what else you can understand other than what your political masters have embedded to your brain. In India, as you say the "poor" woman AR may be villified, but there we can see that it is instant death and not even by the Government after a trail or anything..it's just anyo ne can do it, all that they have to do is to say the person has insulted islam..
Re: Re: India and Pak
by EEEEEEE on Jan 08, 2011 02:13 AM
and also atleast we are still in the kettle stage, you are the black pot and at the rate at which it is getting filled with parasites, we anticipate that it is not too far in the future for this cancerous pot to be wiped away from the face of this earth..
Re: India and Pak
by Jason Bourne on Jan 08, 2011 02:20 AM
Arundhati Roy is vilified in the media, but no one is shooting her down or legal system wont hang her for controvorsial views. Freedom of Speech still exists.
Jaswant Singh also is doing well. Losing a job at a religious party is not the end of his world. He still is entitled to his opinion in India. Ranganayakamma wrote a critical book on Ramayan and she lived happily everafter. People criticized her, but that is their liberty. We sure will look into mirror. We do have problems that need to be fixed. But Religious lunacy is not one yet.
Non-muslim world is totally unjust and unfair to muslims? Dude, this self-victimization is the root cause of martyrdom justification of your youth. Dont fall into that trap. When you see your mistake, admit and fix it. Dont try to justify it by saying, "well, you have that problem too". Our problem is corruption, we are working on it.
Re: Re: India and Pak
by Rhazes Ashrawi on Jan 08, 2011 05:36 AM
No religious lunacy. Think about the no. of massacres and genocides of Muslims by fanatical right wing hindu parties of India since 1947 culminating in the gujarat genocide. U might even lose count. 'Self victimization' is a m isconception. We dont pity ourselves. But most non Muslims jump on Muslims at the slightest excuse. So much so that a new word in english vocab has now been created namely 'Islamophobia'.
Re: India and Pak
by ad na on Jan 07, 2011 11:52 PM
India is far from perfect but yet we don't have laws based on religion. Our laws are secular to the extent that we have special provisions for minorities like 4 legal marriages.
Re: Re: Re: India and Pak
by Rhazes Ashrawi on Jan 08, 2011 01:53 AM
very true Huma.The non-Muslim world is being totally unfair and unjust to the Muslim world. As if this not enough so called Muslims are hankering to pleace their non Muslim frineds by insuloting their own religion of which they little about themselves.The man Salman Taseer was of an English mother. So what Islam must she have taught him.He obviously lived and thought like a christian.While one can appreciate his concern for the woman who was to be executed for blasphemy he could have gone about it diplomatically instead of openly undermining Islam itself. This is what caused the hatred from other Muslims.Salman taseer would of curse be made into a hero or martyr in the non-Muslim world. They just wait for such opportunities. As for your previous question yes, there is a law against blasphemy in Islam and very strict too.
Re: Re: Re: India and Pak
by ad na on Jan 08, 2011 12:35 AM
Laws that prohibit insult of someone's faith or cast are a must in civilised society. However, they must be appplicable to all. This blasphemy law practiced by our civilised neighbours should be applicable to all religions then perphaps it would be fair.
THIS SEEMS AN ANCIENT WAR. EVIL PPL, WHEN IN POWER, TEND TO CREATE SITIATION SIMILAR TO INDIA TODAY. GOOD PPL, I.E. STRONG-REAL MEN, WILL RID EARTH OF THESE EVIL PPL.
OCCURED THROUGH-OUT HISTORY, AND IS SET TO OCCUR AGAIN.
many dangerous & anti-national rulings are being executed by these 4, with, some of another 23 similar others, all in ruling party:
1. corp & minority affairs: Salman.K (#2 in group, being corp-min, he moves big-govt-money to his-choice-areas, and is main executor)
2. personal secy to S-nia: Ahmed.P (#1 in group, is brains behind it all, massive and sole/primary influence on S-nia)
3. roadways: H.Yusuf (not so smart as above 2, but creates and runs huge, traditional, business houses)
4. timid but wily, min. E.ahamed (also another brain, creating forward many new schemes, deemed as anti-national and fanatic by nature.
Re: who is bothered
by P Zipk on Jan 07, 2011 10:59 PM
Who is bothered? Psuedo seculars, communists, some Indian Muslims who still look at Pakistan as promised land by god.
Re: who is bothered
by Kaka on Jan 07, 2011 11:00 PM
It is already in docks, and will bite the dust soon, just a matter of time. Good riddance for that!!
and for that matter the crippled country....you need not look far....the rest of the world signs trade agreements for products and services... this country's biggest product and service is "terrorism". America has been burnt next is China.
