Re: crruption
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:52 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
How long we are going to wait to end this corruption. The politicians are becoming shameless even when they are caught red handed and abusing the law to overcome that. The so called democracy or system is not working so far. If it is not working we need to make changes or improve. We can't say go elected and do it the right way. The so called right is not working or did not wok for so far
Re: Corruption
by cool dude on Aug 21, 2011 08:14 AM
how the corruption gonna vanish by janlokpal can you please enlighten , i know you must readd janlokpal..now you tel me its process how it will vanish
Re: Re: Corruption
by Rahul on Aug 21, 2011 08:23 AM
No law will solve problem unless people want it; we need to change attitude of people - that's what Anna is doing.
We should support Anna - the cause. Let the intention of govt positive, the law can be debated and enacted in parliament.
Re: Re: Re: Corruption
by cool dude on Aug 21, 2011 08:34 AM
ofcourse and people never gonna change their attitude towards to being part of corruption.. we never gonna get tax paid inovice from doctor.. we not gonna see fixed price rates in hospitals.. same with lawyer.. unless we not cover everyone from professional to small time bizman.it wil not solve problem of corruption.. anna is speaking about same cause as what all citizens facing and speaking since long.. but the problem with janlokpal advt by his team is suspecious.. their behaviour is suspecious as might anna also not know
Re: Re: Re: Re: Corruption
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:53 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corruption
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:54 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
Re: Re: Corruption
by prashant mishra on Aug 21, 2011 08:24 AM
@cool dude : have you heard about dial 101 if not read jan lokpal bill... if may need read and understand lot of thing..
Re: Re: Re: Corruption
by cool dude on Aug 21, 2011 08:30 AM
:) i gone through kiran bedi comparison.. and found its drafted as per some section favour..if its janlokpal then everything need to cover under it and lokpal office and employees should be answerable..and transparent than any other organization,parliament..
current draft is just like trying to impose parrallel system...and trying to show their attitude like dictator
Re: Re: Re: Corruption
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:54 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
Re: Re: Corruption
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:53 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
Why doesnt Anna Hazare form a political party of his own and to things as per the constitution of India. Anna ji you have the support of entire India, as is being claimed by your fellow men. Why dont you form a political party with honest people. You simply have to choose 550 people from your vast base of supporters and then leave it to the people of the worlds largest democracy, what they want. Instead of black mailing the government and being unconstitutional choose the better way and then do what you feel is right after being democratically elected. Who does not what a corruption free India? Everybody does. But your method is not right. Tomorrow, for e.g., all the villagers supporting Khap panchayats may come out in protest and demand their community rules be tabled as a bill in the parliament. Then probably someone else stands up and blackmails like Ramdev to do something else i with my followers would not budge. The general elections are almost a couple of years away. The nation would not go bankrupt in there two years if it hasnt in 64 years of corruption. So form a party, make the people of India aware what you would be doing if elected and then leave it for them to decide. Else you would set an example for others not to follow the constitution of The Worlds Largest Democracy. All said and done we do want a corruption free India, but your methods ought to be right
Re: Anna ji form a party of your own
by prashant mishra on Aug 21, 2011 08:11 AM
I do not agree to your thoughts Mr Kapoor , when you put the example of Khap pachanyats demand to put their community rules on table they wil not get the support of India like anna ji is getting , they may get the support of their community .
I am supporting Anna. We need strong lokpal bill let it be Anna's or versioned Lokpal . since independence this govt is looting the nation and now they are coming up with their draft version of lokpal to suck this nation for indefinite , what the pity of this nation .
Re: Re: Anna ji form a party of your own
by Saravanan BS on Aug 21, 2011 08:29 AM
plz do not act like a illiterate man can u explain how the jan lokpal bill will take out the corruption why create a 4 section in the indian system which is not acountable to any one
Re: Re: Re: Anna ji form a party of your own
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:50 AM
ime has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
There are a bunch of idiots who come on this forum to denigrate BJP and RSS at every opportunity. The RSS has been and will remain a service organization that does more social service than any other in the country. They never seek publicity like the idiots in CONgrASS. RSS's ideology is service to everyone in the country irrespective of affiliation. They are nationalistic to the core. Just because their ideas resonate with Hindus does not make a Hindu organization. Many of BJP leaders got their early lessons in the RSS and that does not make them RSS. Nobody is a saint in the politics. But at least the BJP acts to remove their representatives when there is evidence. Compare that with the CONgrASS which first denies, then obfuscates and tries to point fingers at others (usually RSS), and only later removes 'tainted' leaders, only to elevate them to safer posts. And all the while, the CONgrASS party is busy sucking money out of the treasury to fund their own devious schemes to transfer it to their individual pockets. Worse, they subvert every institution and appoint their lackeys to head these so that their evil deeds are never known outside. The CONgrASS refuses to do anything democratically, which is one reason for the current Anna mess. Examples of CONgrASS plants ... Pratibha Patil, Meera Kumar, ex-CVC Thomas, Phonia Gandhi and former CEC Navin Chawla
Re: The BJP/RSS obsession
by harish bysani on Aug 21, 2011 08:16 AM
good comments :), ppl blindly comment.
I was myself a swayam sevak and there were few muslim swayam sevaks too, we used to spk abot protection and development. Hoist flag every morning n evening and play kabbadi on sundays.
No religion on caste was discussed and our regular pledge
Re: Re: The BJP/RSS obsession
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:55 AM
time has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
A Truck driver, he has good reputation hijack by BJP and RSS to hijack the country. Fooling the people. The world is laughing on Indians for their immature adventure. We bribe Bhagwan, giving Rs 10 prasad to get work done. We Indians when you born you have to pay ransom and when you die you have to pay ransom. It can not be eradicated by thin Jan Lok Pal Bill. We should bring transparency. This is nothing but Islamic System where they put Muhtasib. In present it ombudsman.
Simple solution.
Put your draft of both lok pal bill in the parliament. Let them discuss all points. Discuss how to way of implementation. What will be the mechanism. Let All parties discuss in Parliament. Let them decide and draft the final bill. After drafting you feel that the bill still needed correction. Make a point and again discuss in the parliament. I believe in the present government. They brought RTI and RTE, ANti-Riot, NIA to deal with these problem. Hopefully this bill also get through.
Re: American NRI- RSS and BJP Support this Truck Driver
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:50 AM
ime has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
A Truck driver, he has good reputation hijack by BJP and RSS to hijack the country. Fooling the people. The world is laughing on Indians for their immature adventure. We bribe Bhagwan, giving Rs 10 prasad to get work done. We Indians when you born you have to pay ransom and when you die you have to pay ransom. It can not be eradicated by thin Jan Lok Pal Bill. We should bring transparency. This is nothing but Islamic System where they put Muhtasib. In present it ombudsman.
Simple solution.
Put your draft of both lok pal bill in the parliament. Let them discuss all points. Discuss how to way of implementation. What will be the mechanism. Let All parties discuss in Parliament. Let them decide and draft the final bill. After drafting you feel that the bill still needed correction. Make a point and again discuss in the parliament. I believe in the present government. They brought RTI and RTE, ANti-Riot, NIA to deal with these problem. Hopefully this bill also get through.
Re: A Truck Driver better than our Highly Educated Parliamentaria
by antoniopope on Aug 21, 2011 08:50 AM
ime has come FOR MMS AND UPA TO TAKE ORDERS FROM INDIAN PEOPLE RATHER THAN AN ILLITERATE ITALIANBARDANCER WHO IS A SPYYY FOR VARTTICAN AND USA?
The lokPal bill was introduced several times in the past. None of the parties in power wanted it including the BJP. Now that the day-to-day survival is marred by corrupt activities initiated and maintained by most politicians, some one -Anna has taken up the issue which is gathering momentum.Its only a matter of willingness and effort to bring it in force as necessary with workable power.But Anna was blamed, accused and so on. Its the government who nearly locked him in a dungeon and tried to suppress the move / LokPal.Let there be a dialogue for a proper and acceptable bill in the interest of future CORRUPTION FREE INDIA. V.Sivasubramaniam
