while the member is in doubt,he should be stripped out immediatly and the respective consituensy controll should be given to the collector/governor.Finally if the member is proven wrong he should bear the part of the election expenses,in case he proves he is innocent he should be allowed to be the member.At present the tainted member/minister are still holding the power and falsely fighting ,but not more stay back,call them back let them prove that they are not done anything wrong,they allow them to remain as member.Our present system allows the opposite leader to bark on ruler till the opposite leader elected to rule,once the previouse opposite leader turnout be ruler he too loot the country. so let mr.anna add this point to his movement.will he do this
Well,Where all he can go?Administration, Policy making, Policing, Judiciary,PDS, education.....?? Anna is not an answer for allour sins. First letspledge tobe clean, honest& non-corrupt.Then only India can stand on its own.No single man is asolution;but collectively if we act with consciousness, then only Anna Hazare & other persons with honest intentions will win. Stop paying Traffic cops, Rationing offioer, Ticket collectors, MPs, MLAs, BMC/TMC officers, etc, etc.
Re: Anna
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:39 AM
what is the need of the hour and to stop corruption, is good administration and a strong non corrupted leader! just example, modi , nitish kumar if any such movement indeed wud happen, it is through the hand of Baba Ramdev as he has only started the is movement , others could join it but suddenly someone so easily has taken over, it itself creates doubt , this present movement is totally fabricated by congress, NGOS and congress paid media!
Re: welcome
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:27 AM
all r anti-national and anti-hindu! what they r doing as per congress instruction and, r only to divert people attention with media glare! there is no potential but to suppress the real movement which was started by Baba Ramdev!
Re: Re: welcome
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:30 AM
correction: all except aamir khan(not involved in movement)all r anti-national and anti-hindu!
people of India require big revolution against corrupt politician, bureaucrats and judiciarly. One by one sytem has to changed. then only we can say over motive is revolution is over.
Re: It time to get ready revolt against corrupt politician
by ghorivisitssomnath on Apr 27, 2011 10:19 AM
dont worry.like how british was defeated by congress during independence struggle.
this time too congress will defeat corruption(ex.yeddy govt in karnatak)
Re: Re: It time to get ready revolt against corrupt politician
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:24 AM
u r wrong, it was not congress but Azad Hind Fauz! congress is only eating the fruit of work done! as they were slave of british, these rats while fleeing from the country just handed over the power to the slaves with many conditions! our freedom is half done! as long as slaves r ruling, india has not got the freedom! british or foreigner is still ruling india!
Re: Re: Re: It time to get ready revolt against corrupt politici
by Ramesh PK on Apr 27, 2011 10:28 AM
JAI HO TV Baba!! In india every Guru has his followers, whether good or bad!
Re: Re: Re: Re: It time to get ready revolt against corrupt poli
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:44 AM
we shud support only which is good and not seemed to be fabricated! we shud be honest in our movement, at least with ourselves! one cant stop to be flashed by camera and to be shown on tv, if he is so popular! its call, public demand!
I was under the impression that any move by congress govt would be anti-Hindu & anti-national but I was not understanding that what anti-Hindu move could be materialized by accepting lok-pal bill which is apparently for the public! I was punching my head! What, what, think, think.. and after that I got it! Oh ho.. these were the reason!
by planning or installing or not so, congress has leaded or compelled Anna to do fasting against corruption as it was aimed to drag the people notice from the deserving Baba Ramdev who actually started fight against corruption across the country! Fortunately, congress got this opportunity and they used it to its fullest! My doubt was always that, congress by any chance, one day will trap Baba Ramdev but since baba is not traped by women or money, they thought that it is best to make a ‘line’ smaller by drawing an another ‘line’ bigger to it!
by doing so, congress was able to dwarf uprising Baba Ramdev & his pro-Hindu, pro-nationalist party as well as to stop peoples voice against them!
now onwards, for any loop hole, they can point lok pal bill or committee! peoples pointing to them(congress) can be diverted! They can now more effectively loot india! Peoples’ attention on their corruption(CWG, 2G, adarsh etc) was immediately diverted and that lokpal bill also hardly to be materialized and if
Re: reason behind congress acceptance to Anna movement and lokpal
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:11 AM
contd.. Peoples’ attention on their corruption(CWG, 2G, adarsh etc) was immediately diverted and that lokpal bill also hardly to be materialized and if it is, it will also meet same fate like other bill!
Ultimately, who will run this bill? People also can be corrupted or not so, but under threaten! By this move, congress only gained and was able to thwart Baba Ramdevs’ real fight against corruption!
Re: Re: Re: reason behind congress acceptance to Anna movement an
by sanjeev ganguly on Apr 27, 2011 10:14 AM
Thanks for the comments! i am proud to be communal rather secular or pseudo(pro-muslim)
Re: Re: Re: Re: reason behind congress acceptance to Anna movemen
by ghorivisitssomnath on Apr 27, 2011 10:20 AM
pls remove this photo which makes me vomit
no congressman will tolerate this .congressmen will make allsanghchaddis run from india if needed. but our hands are tied with ahimsa by india's future - rahulji
Re: why
by suppandi on Apr 27, 2011 10:09 AM
Immediately Sonia and her son should be deported to Italy. No matter we honest taxpayers will provide them money for rest of their life.
If they are away from this country we can prevent 90% of corruption
Sonia is the mother of all corruption in central government. Still Anna Hazare praises and requests her. The same Anna Hazare had different attitude in case of sarath pawar. What kind of logic it is?
It is a well planned congress drama to counter Baba Ramdev.
Real Triump would be only when this bill will be passed in its original form - not distorted LOKPAL Bill. Because, I am sure, these politicians will not allow this Bill to be passed in its orignal format. These cancers are mainly Kapil Sibal, Pranab, Rakhi Sawant of Indian Parliament (Amar Singh), Digvijay, Manish Tiwari (snake eating poisonous person) and so on..................!!
India is running "movements"periodically during crises,Ghandhi,Vinobha and J.P Narayan etc.,but now it is Anna Hazare movement,this too will faded away or loopholed by politicians in coming future. The only way for clearer Goverment would be: 1) The elected member by people is to removed when the same people found him wrong doing during his term. Look Anna Hazare rejects Uma &other politicians not to visit him,but he allows P.Chidabram the member always in some kind of scandal during him terms.How he is being allowed to joined the board now. Though he is holding very powerfull portfolio as HM,but his elected membership is under doubt.But leave off the major details like P.C,he is allowing people to talk about other junior meber of the board. We have to be carefull we have seen enough and enough of changes,eventually the change makers joined with hands of politicians.The then studenet leader of Asam brought changes while he was the student-ofcourse he brought changes at the time-what change-the students form the goverment-thats it,later he too be common politician. Anna Hazare should find the way of calling back the any elected member by people any time they are under doubt,till he is been proved the constituency should be under collector control,finally if he is proven that he is wrong he should bear the cost of election expenses some percentage. Will Mr. Anna Hazare do this. Jai Hind.
Re: Will Mr. Anna Hazare do this.
by Abbas Rumani on Apr 27, 2011 10:21 AM
What you are suggesting is " Right to Recall" you elected Representative. Question is how do we that? lets take a simple example. A MP is represent 15 Lac population.Out of that say 80% are voters. that mean 12 Lac. Now on avarge we never had more than 60% of voting. That means only 7 lac people vote. if you see the result a candidate getting about 36-42% win the election. That means only 2.8 Lac. So we have MP who is like or perfered by only 2.8 Lac people from 15 lac. So in first place he do not represent majority. Secondly if we want to excersize the "Right to Recall" who should vote for that decision? only those who have voted for him/her or all Voters? if all, than there are majority who did not elected in first place. I am not saying we should not do have right to recall, but worry is if we have that right, how will that work.
Re: Will Mr. Anna Hazare do this.
by Abbas Rumani on Apr 27, 2011 10:22 AM
What you are suggesting is " Right to Recall" you elected Representative. Question is how do we that? lets take a simple example. A MP is represent 15 Lac population.Out of that say 80% are voters. that mean 12 Lac. Now on avarge we never had more than 60% of voting. That means only 7 lac people vote. if you see the result a candidate getting about 36-42% win the election. That means only 2.8 Lac. So we have MP who is like or perfered by only 2.8 Lac people from 15 lac. So in first place he do not represent majority. Secondly if we want to excersize the "Right to Recall" who should vote for that decision? only those who have voted for him/her or all Voters? if all, than there are majority who did not elected in first place. I am not saying we should not do have right to recall, but worry is if we have that right, how will that work.
Re: Re: Will Mr. Anna Hazare do this.
by joe jerry on Apr 27, 2011 10:42 AM
while the member is in doubt,he should be stripped out immediatly and the respective consituensy controll should be given to the collector/governor.Finally if the member is proven wrong he should bear the part of the election expenses,in case he proves he is innocent he should be allowed to be the member.At present the tainted member/minister are still holding the power and falsely fighting ,but not more stay back,call them back let them prove that they are not done anything wrong,they allow them to remain as member.Our present system allows the opposite leader to bark on ruler till the opposite leader elected to rule,once the previouse opposite leader turnout be ruler he too loot the country. so let mr.anna add this point to his movement.will he do this.
