The Iyengars are a Tamil Brahmin caste. To whom the Tamil language and culture us very dear. All Iyengars even the ones who now state Kannada or Telugu is their mother tongue are originally from Tamil Nadu. Many of them fled to Karnataka during the staunchly Saivite Chola regin to escape persecution of Vaishnavite Hindus. Most of these so called Kannada Iyengars speak a strange dialect that is mixture of Kannada and archaic Tamil. Now due to poltics and being settled in Karnataka for generations they now state that they are Knnadigas and are reverting ot proper Kannada as their mother tongue. Jayalalitha's family is from Srirangam, just because her ancestors migrated to Mysore a few generations ago hers or thier ethnicity does nto change from Tamil to Kannada. Even before she entered politics, she had always fiercly defended her Tamil roots and heritage,from the claims of Kannda extremists that she was a Kanndiga, Manyy times to her own cost. Like I stated earlier,the Iyengars are essentially a Tamil caste and people. Some due to migration and other faactors. may now have changed their language and sate that they are either Kannada or at times Telugu, but this does nto stop any one of them revertign back to their original Tamil identity.
Re: Basically the Iyengars are a Tamil Brahmin caste
by varadharajan madhavan on Apr 11, 2011 02:19 PM
In end 70's and in the begining of 80's even before entering politics madam Jayalalithe had the gutts to tell all the kannada chaluvali Vattal nagaraj group when they attacked her at Mysore during a cine shooting and without any fear she had shouted at all of them telling that she is a Tamilian only and not a Kannadiga eventhough the VattalNagaraj group insisted that she should declare her self as a kannadiga.
Re: Basically the Iyengars are a Tamil Brahmin caste
by chandrasekaran thevar on Apr 07, 2011 07:31 PM
we have migrated around 1950 from tirunelveli to mumbai. our children speaks marathi hindi but they tell we are tamilian so jayalalitha is also a tamilian
Re: Re: Basically the Iyengars are a Tamil Brahmin caste
by siva none on Apr 11, 2011 07:22 AM
Agreed.We have accepted an Italian as Indian - so goes the justification for all.
As every one knows,strange are the ways of politics & the strategies adopted therein. Jayalaitha,obviously,wishes to encash the sentimental aspects of the local people,but according to what is now reported in this,Jayalalitha does not belong to this Srirangam at all,but to Srirangapatnam near the Mysore of Karnataka state.This cannot be a factor for consideration for the voter since they brought MGR,a Malayalee hailing from Kerala basically with thundering success when he entered politics.Public memory is short & their moves & moods-especially in the matter of elections are unpredictable.All said & done ,though it is alleged that being a Brahmin,she did nothing for the Brahmin community,she stands identified as a pro Brahmin & this had been a staunch ground on which her main opponent party DMK fought also.For cine people as her mother Sandhya & she too was basically for some time & for politicians of the stature like what she is today,it hardly matters as to where they belong.What is needed is the charisma with which one can mesmerise & entice the voters.Almost all the big & reputed politicians have this & that is the reason why they are being reelected though thrown out intermittently.What matters in the present day politics is to make false promises including bringing the moon & entrusting to the gullible voter.Our politicians have this talen
As every one knows,strange are the ways of politics & the strategies adopted therein. Jayalaitha,obviously,wishes to encash the sentimental aspects of the local people,but according to what is now reported in this,Jayalalitha does not belong to this Srirangam at all,but to Srirangapatnam near the Mysore of Karnataka state.This cannot be a factor for consideration for the voter since they brought MGR,a Malayalee hailing from Kerala basically with thundering success when he entered politics.Public memory is short & their moves & moods-especially in the matter of elections are unpredictable.All said & done ,though it is alleged that being a Brahmin,she did nothing for the Brahmin community,she stands identified as a pro Brahmin & this had been a staunch ground on which her main opponent party DMK fought also.For cine people as her mother Sandhya & she too was basically for some time & for politicians of the stature like what she is today,it hardly matters as to where they belong.What is needed is the charisma with which one can mesmerise & entice the voters.Almost all the big & reputed politicians have this & that is the reason why they are being reelected though thrown out intermittently.What matters in the present day politics is to make false promises including bringing the moon & entrusting to the gullible voter.Our politicians have this talen
As every one knows,strange are the ways of politics & the strategies adopted therein. Jayalaitha,obviously,wishes to encash the sentimental aspects of the local people,but according to what is now reported in this,Jayalalitha does not belong to this Srirangam at all,but to Srirangapatnam near the Mysore of Karnataka state.This cannot be a factor for consideration for the voter since they brought MGR,a Malayalee hailing from Kerala basically with thundering success when he entered politics.Public memory is short & their moves & moods-especially in the matter of elections are unpredictable.All said & done ,though it is alleged that being a Brahmin,she did nothing for the Brahmin community,she stands identified as a pro Brahmin & this had been a staunch ground on which her main opponent party DMK fought also.For cine people as her mother Sandhya & she too was basically for some time & for politicians of the stature like what she is today,it hardly matters as to where they belong.What is needed is the charisma with which one can mesmerise & entice the voters.Almost all the big & reputed politicians have this & that is the reason why they are being reelected though thrown out intermittently.What matters in the present day politics is to make false promises including bringing the moon & entrusting to the gullible voter.Our politicians have this talen
As every one knows,strange are the ways of politics & the strategies adopted therein. Jayalaitha,obviously,wishes to encash the sentimental aspects of the local people,but according to what is now reported in this,Jayalalitha does not belong to this Srirangam at all,but to Srirangapatnam near the Mysore of Karnataka state.This cannot be a factor for consideration for the voter since they brought MGR,a Malayalee hailing from Kerala basically with thundering success when he entered politics.Public memory is short & their moves & moods-especially in the matter of elections are unpredictable.All said & done ,though it is alleged that being a Brahmin,she did nothing for the Brahmin community,she stands identified as a pro Brahmin & this had been a staunch ground on which her main opponent party DMK fought also.For cine people as her mother Sandhya & she too was basically for some time & for politicians of the stature like what she is today,it hardly matters as to where they belong.What is needed is the charisma with which one can mesmerise & entice the voters.Almost all the big & reputed politicians have this & that is the reason why they are being reelected though thrown out intermittently.What matters in the present day politics is to make false promises including bringing the moon & entrusting to the gullible voter.Our politicians have this talen
As every one knows,strange are the ways of politics & the strategies adopted therein. Jayalaitha,obviously,wishes to encash the sentimental aspects of the local people,but according to what is now reported in this,Jayalalitha does not belong to this Srirangam at all,but to Srirangapatnam near the Mysore of Karnataka state.This cannot be a factor for consideration for the voter since they brought MGR,a Malayalee hailing from Kerala basically with thundering success when he entered politics.Public memory is short & their moves & moods-especially in the matter of elections are unpredictable.All said & done ,though it is alleged that being a Brahmin,she did nothing for the Brahmin community,she stands identified as a pro Brahmin & this had been a staunch ground on which her main opponent party DMK fought also.For cine people as her mother Sandhya & she too was basically for some time & for politicians of the stature like what she is today,it hardly matters as to where they belong.What is needed is the charisma with which one can mesmerise & entice the voters.Almost all the big & reputed politicians have this & that is the reason why they are being reelected though thrown out intermittently.What matters in the present day politics is to make false promises including bringing the moon & entrusting to the gullible voter.Our politicians have this talen
Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian invadors. India has destructed internally. The two bit kings from foreign countries were successful against a huge Indian Army because the caste system destroyed a feeling of cohesiveness, unity, empathy and comadorie from the Indian psyche.
Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian invador
by Kumar on Apr 07, 2011 05:37 AM
Destroy the evil caste system before it completely destroys India.
Re: Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian inv
by ganapathi on Apr 07, 2011 11:32 AM
Mr.Kumar,You are misguided. Ancient India was very rich and that is why invaders came to loot India. The Varna division was not based on birth but on attitude. A person who wants to contribute to soceity selflessly with his intelect are called bramins. A person who wanted to guard the country and maintain the law and order with their muscle power was Ksatriya. A person who handle economical developement are called Vaishyas. A person who want to contribute by his physical hard work are sudras. It is purely based on their attitude and not on birth. You can see the Valimigi a hunter and Vyasa the son of a fisherwoman have been recognised in India as the greatest maharishies who contributed through the soceity through their intelect by giving Ramayana & Mahabharat which guides the people for millenium together to live proper life. Everbody lived amicably as there was no competition and excelled in their field breaking their own record. A weaver and frarmer used to produce more and the trader used to sell more and the king used to rule the country properly guided by the set of selfless ministers. But latter once the muslims & expecially after britishers came, to divide and rule the people, they looted all the kings and business people wealth and declared them as bacward classes, they declared the phyically hard working people as worker or mbc or dalit and clasified other who helped in their adminstrative activities as FC or oc. Pls check gandian reasercher
Re: Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian inv
by ganapathi on Apr 07, 2011 11:32 AM
Mr.Kumar,You are misguided. Ancient India was very rich and that is why invaders came to loot India. The Varna division was not based on birth but on attitude. A person who wants to contribute to soceity selflessly with his intelect are called bramins. A person who wanted to guard the country and maintain the law and order with their muscle power was Ksatriya. A person who handle economical developement are called Vaishyas. A person who want to contribute by his physical hard work are sudras. It is purely based on their attitude and not on birth. You can see the Valimigi a hunter and Vyasa the son of a fisherwoman have been recognised in India as the greatest maharishies who contributed through the soceity through their intelect by giving Ramayana & Mahabharat which guides the people for millenium together to live proper life. Everbody lived amicably as there was no competition and excelled in their field breaking their own record. A weaver and frarmer used to produce more and the trader used to sell more and the king used to rule the country properly guided by the set of selfless ministers. But latter once the muslims & expecially after britishers came, to divide and rule the people, they looted all the kings and business people wealth and declared them as bacward classes, they declared the phyically hard working people as worker or mbc or dalit and clasified other who helped in their adminstrative activities as FC or oc. Pls check gandian reasercher
Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian invador
by ganapathi on Apr 07, 2011 11:34 AM
Mr.Kumar,You are misguided. Ancient India was very rich and that is why invaders came to loot India. The Varna division was not based on birth but on attitude. A person who wants to contribute to soceity selflessly with his intelect are called bramins. A person who wanted to guard the country and maintain the law and order with their muscle power was Ksatriya. A person who handle economical developement are called Vaishyas. A person who want to contribute by his physical hard work are sudras. It is purely based on their attitude and not on birth. You can see the Valimigi a hunter and Vyasa the son of a fisherwoman have been recognised in India as the greatest maharishies who contributed through the soceity through their intelect by giving Ramayana & Mahabharat which guides the people for millenium together to live proper life. Everbody lived amicably as there was no competition and excelled in their field breaking their own record. A weaver and frarmer used to produce more and the trader used to sell more and the king used to rule the country properly guided by the set of selfless ministers. But latter once the muslims & expecially after britishers came, to divide and rule the people, they looted all the kings and business people wealth and declared them as bacward classes, they declared the phyically hard working people as worker or mbc or dalit and clasified other who helped in their adminstrative activities as FC or oc. Pls check gandian reasercher
Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian invador
by ganapathi on Apr 07, 2011 11:33 AM
Mr.Kumar,You are misguided. Ancient India was very rich and that is why invaders came to loot India. The Varna division was not based on birth but on attitude. A person who wants to contribute to soceity selflessly with his intelect are called bramins. A person who wanted to guard the country and maintain the law and order with their muscle power was Ksatriya. A person who handle economical developement are called Vaishyas. A person who want to contribute by his physical hard work are sudras. It is purely based on their attitude and not on birth. You can see the Valimigi a hunter and Vyasa the son of a fisherwoman have been recognised in India as the greatest maharishies who contributed through the soceity through their intelect by giving Ramayana & Mahabharat which guides the people for millenium together to live proper life. Everbody lived amicably as there was no competition and excelled in their field breaking their own record. A weaver and frarmer used to produce more and the trader used to sell more and the king used to rule the country properly guided by the set of selfless ministers. But latter once the muslims & expecially after britishers came, to divide and rule the people, they looted all the kings and business people wealth and declared them as bacward classes, they declared the phyically hard working people as worker or mbc or dalit and clasified other who helped in their adminstrative activities as FC or oc. Pls check gandian reasercher
Re: Castiesm destroyed India and not Muslim or Chirsitian invador
by ganapathi on Apr 07, 2011 11:33 AM
Mr.Kumar,You are misguided. Ancient India was very rich and that is why invaders came to loot India. The Varna division was not based on birth but on attitude. A person who wants to contribute to soceity selflessly with his intelect are called bramins. A person who wanted to guard the country and maintain the law and order with their muscle power was Ksatriya. A person who handle economical developement are called Vaishyas. A person who want to contribute by his physical hard work are sudras. It is purely based on their attitude and not on birth. You can see the Valimigi a hunter and Vyasa the son of a fisherwoman have been recognised in India as the greatest maharishies who contributed through the soceity through their intelect by giving Ramayana & Mahabharat which guides the people for millenium together to live proper life. Everbody lived amicably as there was no competition and excelled in their field breaking their own record. A weaver and frarmer used to produce more and the trader used to sell more and the king used to rule the country properly guided by the set of selfless ministers. But latter once the muslims & expecially after britishers came, to divide and rule the people, they looted all the kings and business people wealth and declared them as bacward classes, they declared the phyically hard working people as worker or mbc or dalit and clasified other who helped in their adminstrative activities as FC or oc. Pls check gandian reasercher
Corruption can be prevented if India becomes free like USSR. Except Russia, remaining USSR republics are relatively free from corruption and prospering rapidly.
Re: And
by mnksrk on Apr 07, 2011 03:04 AM
u mean Uzbek, Kazak etc? Kaz, Uz r now bombin n gunnin every one in the name of P!SLAM for da shake of virtual 72 v1rgins..
Still, more than a lakh of Eelam Tamils are behind the barbed wires.
For them till now no political solution.
Most of their houses were destroyed by Srilankan & Indian war planes.
There is no sign of rehabitation.
Abduction of tamil youths continues by white van by Sinhala chavunism.
India also invlolved in torturing Eelam Tamils in the name of LTTE beacause India in guilty of war crimes.
Tamil Nadu politicians are selfish and they enjoy their political power because of votes of more than 6 crore tamil population, and they are not bothered of their brotherhood of eelam tamils.
Mr M Karunanidhi & his family have recieved huge crores of money from both Congress and Rajapakshe govt to suppress the outburst of Tamil people on the Eelam Tamil issue.
Congress and DMK had spent a very huge amount of money for bribing the election commission and votes of Tamil people. Where the money came from.
Congress Govt not allowing other political parties to visit war torn areas.
India is silent on the welfare of Eelam Tamils and it is not allowing UN or other country to involve in settling the political issue and rehabilation process.
Not allowing the migrated tamils to help their blood relations.
Oh God! Save Eelam Tamils and destroy inhuman world.
jaya from karnataka, rest from AP, after pandyans, looks like tamilians have no leader from the land. telugus own land and make tamilians fight for water... split tamilians in name of casteism... sadly tamils also believed...
