Re: The Poster of the Play above is wrong
by Pranab M on May 13, 2010 12:26 PM
Even that is wrong , it should be named "Play in search of sickularism" .
Moguls have killed , tortured millions of h1ndu general category . Now their descendants will be given 10% reservation , what a mockery of democracy in the name of 5000 years of fake deprivation at the cost of general category people.
Further to my below post, tell me one single Hindu rular, who tried to spread hinduism with the guts, the way King Ashoka tried to spread budhaism. muslim ruler did thier best and now more than 56 country is muslim country. christanity in india comes because of british ruler took interest in conversion with the money and good standard living condition. even today in india most of us loves to send our kids in missionary school. their fee are very less abut standard wise ther is no comparison.
my friends accpt the reality . this is my only wish.
Re: Further
by Dipak Ghosh on May 13, 2010 11:35 AM
because of last 1000 years of foreign rule, you hv forgotten what hindu rulers did, partcularly in north india.
find out what vijaynagar emperors did for spread of dharma and sanskriti.
Re: Re: Further
by Lallu LaptopWale on May 13, 2010 11:47 AM
here i forgot to mention that muslim ruler was success only in north and other areas , where as in south specially tamil nadu they never succedded.
Re: Re: Re: Further
by JGN on May 13, 2010 12:54 PM
They did not succeed in Kerala also. Tippu had to flee from Pa1ghat tucking tai1 between his legs, never to return again till his death, though he had committed unspeakable atrocities in Ma1abar during 30 years of his occupation.
I read most of the post here, some are trying to prove that Mughals were secular. But in reality they were not.and why should they be ?, in thier relgion it was the task of rular to spread Islam, by any means as per convenience. Mughals and other rular did exactly what their religion ecpects from them .Akbar tried to pacify hindus by marrying hindu girls, actually it was our own Hindu Kings who did let down because there were no unity among them , this the reality and we all should accept. a forieng intruders came to india with the pupose of looting and we let them loot. same like kasab came to india with the pupose of killing the inncoent and creat panic, and he succedded in his mission. this is the reality, whether we hang him or not he completed his mission. same thing done by muslim rulers, they spread islam in india by force and see the results , thier population is more than 20% in india, a country called pakistan, bangladesh, afganistan etc.
Everyone has something to offer. Mr Khurshid is insisting do not judge the Moghuls on todays standards - see them as caricatures of their times.
SO I suppose that the same benefit of doubt should go to the Hindus who pulled down Babri - they are caricatures of that year and their work is alos some kid of contemporary art!
Indias cunning secular historians have successfully mastered the art of highlighting some minimal good (???) done by very few (may be out of compulsions) to H1ndoos. They use the tool to propogate their false agenda of secularism thur books, columns, films, tv serials...ect. This actually blindfolds the H1ndu leaving them tongue tied due to fear of offending the secular fabric - which actually is a plot to deh1nduise the country. H1nd00s should defy all such attempt and fearlessly take down such sicular fake historians.
Re: Re: Cunning...
by jaggu on May 13, 2010 10:20 AM
Bluffing should stop - there was no slavery in India unlike the west and Saudi. The Dalits had ownership rights on lands too. The real upliftment of Dalits was started by Hindu Mahasabha and MGandhi only picked up the theme.
Re: Re: Re: Cunning...
by JGN on May 13, 2010 10:23 AM
jaggu, pl search the web for ArrabSlaveTrade and understand the cruelty they committed on the hapless Africans.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Cunning...
by jaggu on May 13, 2010 10:31 AM
You are correct. Saudi removed slavery only on paper in 1964 under UN pressure - till then they justified it on religious grounds!!
Re: Re: Cunning...
by jaapaal maatre on May 13, 2010 11:39 AM
@mailrumsfield get ur facts right, almost all the so called social reformers were brhmns. so how can u generalise all brhmns as villians. so going by ur logic one can come to the conclusion that since most of the terrorists in the present era are mslms, so eslm is a religion of terrorism and violence.
Re: Re: Re: Cunning...
by JGN on May 13, 2010 10:22 AM
Yes; MukhtarMai was gangbanged as she be1onged to a lowerCaste!!! Is that the equality you are talkign about? Or the fatwaissued by the De0bandSeminary two days back against w0men working in offices???
Re: Does..?
by jaapaal maatre on May 13, 2010 11:46 AM
No, u will not find any references to atrocities on hind00s either in this book or in any of the media, bcoz most of them have a hidden agenda of converting india into a radical mslm nation. Not many of u are aware of the fact that, it is no longer the middle east but it is india which has bcome the battle ground for the slamic jihadis and crusadors. And as a first step towards that is to eliminate hindoism. Infact decades of sinister voteback politics by the congress govts have so badly radicalised indian mslms that, now they are very confident of pushing india back into the mughal era. If you have any doubts abt it , u can see whats happening and whats happened in pakistan and bangladesh where the local hind00 populations have virtually bcome extinct.
Re: world has woken up before islamo facists
by shilpy on May 13, 2010 03:32 AM
that a ruling cabinet minister would be busy writing a book for personal profit instead of devoting the same time for public welfare tells you that this congress govt is not serious about people's business. no wonder there is so much terror. is mmsingh busy writing his own books too?
Re: Re: Re: Re: world has woken up before islamo facists
by JGN on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM
vinayakmu11ah, who had b1asted the BhamiyanBuddha?? Was done by your peaceful j1hadi br0s or the brhmns?? Who had burnt down the University at Nalanda? The library of Nalanda was burning for six months when it was set on fire by the 1zlamic invaders.
Re: Re: Re: Re: world has woken up before islamo facists
by jaggu on May 13, 2010 10:27 AM
Stick to Truth. The type of slavery seen in USA and Saudi was not present in India. Dalits had ancestral work similar to guilds in Europe. But they had own houses, families and private property which slaves never had in rest of the world. Also the brahmins were less than 10% of population and had no land holding or weapons to subjugate anyone. Moreover none of the scriptures actually authorised the caste system. It was a result of work they did similar to guilds in Europe.
Re: Re: Re: Re: world has woken up before islamo facists
by mandar Dhayagude on May 13, 2010 12:30 PM
Then why there is not single bitter feeling about India and h1ndu religion in east asian contries. Then why these people acted so generously in easter asia. Although people in these countries are officially not h1ndu they respect h1nduism.
Re: Re: Re: dimwit Bosedks
by Me on May 13, 2010 01:36 AM
I am just being realistic. I never heard of any Christian converting to Hinduism in India, unless to marry a lover.
Its not because Hinduism is unattractive. Its because there is no one driving such conversions in India.
In the west, in the 70s, many whites used to hang around with the Hindu yogis and sahus. That trend has stopped now.
I dont think the whites who really converted would have bothered about which caste they want to be in :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: dimwit Bosedks
by Me on May 13, 2010 01:44 AM
The problem with Hinduism is that, nobody ever tried to promote it. All other religions tried to promote their religion worldwide by some means or other. Its when the damage had been done that Hindus woke up and found that many from among them had converted to Islam, Christianity etc.
Its in the character of Indians that we are not ambitious. Despite having such wealth and powerful rulers in the past, not a single ruler was enterprising enough to go out of the subcontinent and try to conquer other places.
One reason was because we were a well fed, contended lot in India. There was no point in taking the risk and conquering more land and people.
But unfortunately for us, the barbarians from central asia, and the small countries from Europe were low on wealth and resources and found us a plump target - a bunch of meek fatties, easy to conquer and plunder.
