Thi. mu.ka( in tamil DMK) stands for " thirukuvalai muthuvelar karunadhi" family. If people think it is a political party all are thoroughly mistaken. It is party, of himself, for himself and by himself. Dravidian movement all by the way to fool people and make money. Main motto is that his family should have a spl " classical" status!!!
MrP Chidambaram landing in Pakistan wearing a VESHTI.May be the first VIP from India dressed in tradational south indian attire in Pakistan Good message. All south indian lanuages are like a family Tamil be the head of the family all others part and parcel of the unit
Sanskrit and Tamil are unique and ancient languages of India. They are the father and mother and its mix gave birth to many other languages. Ramayan & Mahabarat in Sanskrit in remaked in Tamil like Tiruviliyadal puranam of Tamil Remaked in Sanskrit. Both the languages should be treated and equally respected as the parents of our family. No hatred only love among themselves.
Re: Re: father & mother
by Tiyan Aadhavan on Jul 13, 2010 07:43 AM
People like Madhwa simply dwell on Sanskrit puranas and unbelievable fake stories and always think that Sanskrit is the mother of all languages. I would prefer him go read the World history before uttering such an untruthful, unreliable stories. First of all Sanskrit did not have a writing system until 2nd century AD. How he expects Sanskrit is superior to others like Prakrit, Pali or Tamil. We do not even have any concrete documentary evidence to prove that Vedas are Sanskrit. Many scholars believe it is a form of Old Iranian. I am at least happy that Madhwa pointed out Tamil is a tribal language. Off course tribal languages are always ancient and people carry their oral tradition from time immemorial unlike Sanskrit. I am not a believer of cursing languages as I believe all languages have their own beauty and fragrance. Unfortunately people like Madhwa make me nervous
Re: Re: father & mother
by marathi marathi on Jun 28, 2010 10:34 PM
Ganapathi is right, then what else did I say? I think Chelvarajan, you are confused.
Many here are trying to deny Tamil its true glory and heritage and are tying to shut up people who state the real truth about Tamil and Sanskrit as anit Indians and Tamil as anti Indians. These HInduvata people are trying ot hide their chauvanism under the cloak of paatriotism. It is patritism and pro Indian ofr them to praise a language that is rally not Indian but originated inthesteppes of Central Asia. As these people think this language is only India's true heritage. However it is anti Indian and not patriotic and narrow minded if a Tami or anyother person states the real lory and antiquity of Tamil which a truly Indian language. Trhing to deny and refute the true antiquity of Tamil a truyly indigepous its culture and glory and its heritge is anti Indian. No Tamil in this foru is denying Sanksrit or any other Indian language its richness or heritage, However just tlook at the insecurity and hatered of many of these people trying to cloak their hatred against Tamil and Tamil people under the falg of Indian oneness ndpatriotism and tellig Tamils and historians,lingusits and indlogists. Stop speaking about Tamil it greatness and antiquity as this is not what we want to hear, we onlyu wnat to hear about the greatness of Sanksrit that is pro Indian but speaking about the greatness of Tamil a truly Indian languge is anti Indian.
Re: Many here are tryinng to deny Tamils its true glory
by commie basher on Jun 28, 2010 06:27 PM
Nobody here is branded anti-national for taking pride in tamil heritage. I as a die hard tamilian take great pride in tamil language and culture. But, i cannot simply say that Indus valley is birth place of tamil. There is no proof of this. There is no proof even in most ancient tamil literature that tamil was spoken in Sindhu river basin. I do not believe in aryan-dravidian race theory as well. If you are a believer of this race theory, you will be branded ant-national, no doubt about that.
Re: Re: Many here are tryinng to deny Tamils its true glory
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jun 28, 2010 07:23 PM
What you believe or not believe is immaterial. I believe that a man in the moon exists. that does not make me correct. Yor beliefs sr erefuted by most recognised historians, indologists that is what matters. I do not elieve in any race thiery . In reality all Indians ae mongrels, and other thatn the exterme North west of Indiand the North east. The reast of Indian is largely Dravidian by race with various other admixturs in them. Speaking an Aryan language does nto make you an Aryan . You are just Aryanised by a ruler adn an invader. jukt like many of here are Anglicised her by the British ivaderand ruler. If the Britsh had ruled us for a few mor ecenturies we would ahve all forgoten Tamil , Sankskrity , Bangali , Telugu etc and would have been chattering in English and defending the English language agaisnt Sankskirt or Tamil or what ever other Indian language. Sanskrit may have flowered or blosomed in India, but it is an undeniable fact that it originated in the steppes of Central Asia.. Just read the Rig vedaah about references to Som, and many of the sacrificial practices . especially Hoirse sacrifice. Som is an intoxicating plant and is found in Central Asia, used in rituals. Old Tamil or prot Dravidian ws the language that was largely spoken in the subcontinent. That is also the truth. Teh people wer enot deaf dumb and mute unitl these so called Aryan invaders brought in their Sanskrit language. However I do agree with you in one thing the race theiry is crap
Re: Re: Re: Many here are tryinng to deny Tamils its true glory
by pb rangarajan on Jun 28, 2010 09:58 PM
you are talking about aryans. there is no such kind of aryan race. according to rigveda only 36 times referred about this word arya which is a respectable work arya means ayya. Max mueller deliberately misguided and britishers followed it whithout knowing sanskrit these probklems persist.still we fighting among ourselves.
Re: Re: Re: Many here are tryinng to deny Tamils its true glory
by commie basher on Jun 29, 2010 07:33 PM
I don't recognise the most reputed indologists and historians as custodians of truth. PERIOD. They are free to go to hell with their Aryan invasion/migration theory. So are you.
Re: Re: Many here are tryinng to deny Tamils its true glory
by mani sekaran on Sep 13, 2013 04:18 PM
Read my post, i posted currentscinec journal evidence.
You still believing ARYAN INVASION. IT'S FALSE. Still not stopped? There is no Aryan. ALL are Indian. Read my previous posts. Regarding Development, I CAN SHOW YOU 15 MILLION SOUTH INDIANS MIGRATED TO MAHARASHTRA. YOU can SHOW me AT MOST 1 MILLION MARATHI SPEAKERS IN TAMILNADU. And 4 lakh of them live in Thanjavur for 300 years. Similarly Experience the DIFFERENCE which Tamilians REALIZE after visiting SHIRDI Temple. IN TIRUPATI, you people look down at someone asking in Hindi. I AM READY FOR ENGLISH, BUT EXCEPT BANGALORE, CHENNAI, others speak a type of English, which EVEN PEOPLE OF OXFORD CANNOT UNDERSTAND.
Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Veluswamy kumaran on Apr 23, 2013 09:15 PM
I like the humor in your statement... . Even oxford cannot understand!!! Try reading about R1a1 y chrmoosomes, it details the aryan theory... though i don't care. We decided to live as brother, it doesn't matter who comes from where...
Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Veluswamy kumaran on Apr 23, 2013 09:15 PM
I like the humor in your statement... . Even oxford cannot understand!!! Try reading about R1a1 y chrmoosomes, it details the aryan theory... though i don't care. We decided to live as brother, it doesn't matter who comes from where...
Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jun 28, 2010 02:31 AM
A peeol ecalled the Aryans did invede India , that is the truth. That is how Sanksrit a langige of Cnetral Asian origin came inot India. Howeer most Indians are not Aryans but Dravidians or Dravidian hybrids. The are largely Aryanised by their rulers. Just liek a few British Anglicised the Indian middle and upper classes. A ruler can impose and chenge the languge and culture of a region. That is what happened to most of India. Now the Aryanised poepulation of Norht Central Western and eastern India are defendign the langauge that was forced upon their ancenstors thousands of years ago,agaisnt the truly original Indian language called Tamil. A form of which most of thier ancestors would have spoken prior to their forced Aryanisation.
Re: Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Michael Angelo on Jun 28, 2010 08:39 AM
If Aryans came from Central Asia how come there is no evidence of their existence in Central Asia?
Re: Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Pranav B on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 AM
You have been brain-washed by false story spread by historians and Doctor Muthuvel Karunanidhi (DMK) party. There is no evidence that Sansrkit came from Central asia. If it did then we would see a good amount of Sansrkit in Central Asia. There is none.
Btw...even it came from CA..so what? there are so many Muslims and Christians who came to India from other countries. They plundered India, killed people and destroyed libraries. So what are you doing to do about them and their culture?
Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by siva kumar on Jun 28, 2010 07:13 AM
Indians need not talk english as it is spoken in Oxford or cambridge, because that is not their mothertongue. English is spoken in many accents according to the native language. Will the people of oxford understand the English spoken in West Indies? Even the English spoken in England and Australia is not similar.
Re: Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by roshan pal on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 AM
English literature in India is mainly a product of Indian writers of english, who have created a good collective creation of Indian English literature.
English in India is Indian English as distinguished from Canadian English, American English ,Australian English or British English.
Re: Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by marathi marathi on Jun 28, 2010 12:14 PM
Only we are HELPLESS as we visit, Tirupati. Neither English Nor Hindi. We face Terrible Problem, to get the correct direction, or the correct road. FORGET IF SOMETHING IS STOLEN OR SOME MARATHI-NORTH CHILD IS MISSING, WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WORD WITH POLICE AS neither English nor Hindi. FEEL the difference in SHIRDI, where Marathi-Hindi-English and even Gujarati are understood This is particularly for Paki Detector whose dreams are even worse.
Re: Re: Re: @ PAKI DETECTORS
by Nandu Dhurve on Jun 29, 2010 04:40 PM
English nor Hindi. FEEL the difference in SHIRDI, where Marathi-Hindi-English and even Gujarati are understood!
tHAT VIS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WITH Maharashtrians ... they tend to converse in HIndi ( They are patetic in English).
That they tend to converse in Hindi in their own state (Maharashtra) is not something to be proud of but not speak8ing in their own language shows spinless character of Maharashtrians.
As far as Tamils goes what is wrong if they communicate only in Tamil in Tamil Nadu ... just as French, Russians, Arabs, Japanese speak in their own language.
Maharashtrians with their spineless & shameless culture hv made Hindi dominant instead of Marathi in our own state.
This is nothing to be proud off ..infact @m,arathi marathi @ u folks should be ashamed of.
By the way I am marathi ... and please do not try to make Tamils as u folks are ... spineless & shameless ....
The day Maharashtrians will denounced Hindi and communicate only in marathi is Maharashtra will be a miracle and marathi & Maharashtrians will earn some respect like not only Tamils but like Kanadigas, Bengalis or even Gujarathis!
