Re: Language
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 08:07 AM
You are the comedy not them. As you cannot stand the truth. They are not deriding or making fun of any other language or culture, but celbrating the greatness of their own language in their own land . So what is this to you cannot stand it and feel jealous? Organise one for your own language if you feel left out. May be there is nothing to organise and large amounts of local and foreign scholars may not come to celebrate the greatness of your language, as there is nothing great. So you feel nasty and left out. Hence these comments. Sour grapes that is wht mos of thes anti Tamil comments are. full of sour grapes
Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are recent
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 07:57 AM
Sankskrit is not man orignaled from Africa and you mean to say that they were deaf and dumb then. Dont amke stupid comments. It amy be the oldest known langage in the Indo Euroepean family. Tamil and the Dravidian languages are not derivatives of Sanksrit. Sanskrit borrwed the Dravidian which means Tamil grammer syntax and lexicon . Go and read befor psotign comments and making a fool of yourself.
Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are recent
by Michael Angelo on Jun 26, 2010 08:20 AM
Sanskrit is the oldest of Classical languages. Tamil was invented by the Vedic Sage Agastya. Agastya has many Sanskrit hymns in the Rig Veda. The first man to systemise the Tamil language and create a script was Mahendra Pallava Verma. He was of Telugu origin. The Tamil calender was based on the era of Salivahana. This king was the grandson of the great Vikramaditya. Yet again a non-Tamilian. Every cultural impulse to Tamils has come from a non-Tamilian Indian. Tamils should stop being proud of Tamils and instead be proud of belonging to India.
Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are rec
by OBCGUY on Jun 26, 2010 08:33 AM
I see some one "invented" a language .. Remarkable!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 08:43 AM
That is why he is a false Michael Angelo tellig fairy tales
Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are rec
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 08:40 AM
Telugu s ia Tamil derivative and Agastya may have composed Sanksrit hymns so what? Verma can do anything but Tamil andTamil culture grammer and script was there log befor Sanskrit. Sankskrit borrwoe dthe Tamil grammer lexicon and syntax from Dravidian( Tamil) ligustics and historians have proven it. SO tell me you are an indologist. rad prfessor Caldwell of Berkley university California. Many of you can praise Sanksrit but canot stand the gretness and antiquity of Tamil and will go to any extent even supportign their genocide ( like in Sri Lanka ) to disprove this. There is nothing wrong with us . we aer the oldest and original Indian people and You are jhonny ocme latley to India compared to us. We are not anti Indian but you are anti Tamil
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are
by muralidharan R on Jun 26, 2010 02:24 PM
Mr.Siva sankaran pandy do you think the Nayanmars are not Tamils and you are ignoring their contribution to Tamil literature.It shows you are not liberal and confine yourself to your language.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are
by indian forever on Jun 26, 2010 10:04 AM
verma mean to say that einstein shud be a electrical engineer ti invent Electric bulb...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages are
by Michael Angelo on Jun 26, 2010 11:00 AM
Agastya did not merely compose Sanskrit hymns. He was a vedic sage ie. he was a north Indian. It was he who laid the foundations of Tamil language. Agastya was primarily based in Karnataka near the border of Andhra. Thus he was able to influence these languages. Telugu, Kannada and Tamil were both formulated by Agastya. He sanskritised the local vernaculars of these places. During the Ramayana there was no culture in these places. One can see the culture of Hanuman, Valli, Sugriva etc. After Valli's death Sugriva grabbed his wife and enjoyed her. But people accepted him as king. This shows that the locals here had no moral or anything. It was sage Agastya who came from North India and taught morals and culture. He found the local vernacular insufficent so he created an amalgam of Sanskrit and local vernaculars. Telugu and Kannada people were closer to North so they were more civilised. So more Sanskrit base in their languages. The leading Tamil expert in the world today is a Japanese. He bluntly turned down Karunanidhi's request to appear for the Tamil meet. Likewise intellectual Tamils like Padma Subramaniam have refused to take part. Karunanidhi is only popular with ignorant masses. He has Zero following in intellectual circles.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sanskrit is from Ages and all other languages
by Christo Augustin on Jun 26, 2010 06:25 PM
Michael Angelo, did u take your medicine today? go and check the doctor today. He will increase the power of the tablet and lock you in the Mental hospital
saraswathi sindhu institute(LOLZ)wat kind of a name is that...people just google for "tamil pottery in egypt" n "tamil roman trade" then u shall know the greatness...1)the offshore conquests made by tamil kings was responsible for the spread of hinduism as far as bali.. 2)Tamil is the only indian language which s displayed in other country's coin(singapore)n srilanka 3)the writing script of thailand and cambodia is based on tamil. 4) The two earliest manuscripts from India, to be acknowledged and registered by UNESCO Memory of the World register in 1997 & 2005 were in Tamil 5)I have a doubt..the brahui language in Balochistan is of dravidian origin.how come 2 dravidian languages be split by a distance of 2500km??there hes to be a link??common sense!!
Re: !!!!!!!!
by mygoodforu on Jun 26, 2010 04:34 AM
Friend make a Google search of "Kannada older than Tamil" and see the fun. As a student of Languages, whom should I trust? Should I accept that Tamils are right or Kannada right?
Re: Re: !!!!!!!!
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 07:00 AM
Kannada older than Tamil don ot make me laugh, It is like the grand duaghter stating that her grandmother resembles her instead of the other way around. Out all the major Dravidian liguistic groups it is the Kannadigas who have the most amount of trouble to come to terms or to accept the truth that old Tamil is the mother to Kannada. They will go to any lenghts to deny this and hence this hatred and antagonism to Tamil. So Knaanada is classfied as a Dravidian language . Dravidian means Tamil. SO yo mean to state that Kannda is derived from Sankskrit. Tha that untruth is fine for you all but as soon as the truth is stated you get inot a frenzy and denounce Tamil. Kannda may be old and rich. I do not deny that however it also cannot be denied taht is a daughter language of much older and richer Tamil.Q
Re: Re: Re: !!!!!!!!
by sameer kale on Jun 26, 2010 10:00 AM
dear sivasankaran sarma,you are not real sarma,you are putting as sarma really your name is lenin karuppan. why your people are language fanatic, spending 120 crores for worthless tamil classical meet, karuna being 4th richest man in Asia can devote more industries to state.
Re: Re: Re: !!!!!!!!
by sanganbaswa kalgi on Jun 26, 2010 12:46 PM
Siva,
I see more hatred in your message than the one being you made out to be. That shows it all...B a proud Indian first...Fine your long is bigger..Happy???...Chill dude..nw pls have some great love for all neighboring states...
Re: !!!!!!!!
by mygoodforu on Jun 26, 2010 04:42 AM
A new invention is on the way that - " Mongols were the first culturally developed community." Recently a shoe has been found out in Armenia which is 5500 years old, older than Egyptian Pyramids.
Re: World Tamil Conference
by Krishnan on Jun 26, 2010 12:06 AM
You are right. Even if that fellow is washed a way in a river he will try to make some benefits
Re: Re: World Tamil Conference
by RathaChamundeeswari Angalamman on Jun 26, 2010 06:21 AM
As long as he has enough to dole out freebies during elections and like some lunatics in this message board are going to vote, he does not have any problems in staying in power
You had replied to me yesterday. You mentioned that some Tamil Brahmans chose Sanskrit in 1947. I think they were not fanatics but National Unity was felt necessary. See, Hindi is derived from North Languages, in UP, Haryana etc. and Hindustani. So it can't have relation with South India. But Sanskrit has relation with every region from Kashmir to Kerala and Assam to Sindhi. THUS THEY WERE NOT FANATICS. Regarding Tamil Medicine, why don't you come forward to share your knowledge with world? I DO NOT THINK THAT YOGA HAS TAMIL ORIGIN. THERE IS TRADITION IN SANSKRIT OF MENTIONING REFERENCES OF PREVIOUS SCHOLARS. PATANJALI DID NOT GET A RUPEE FOR HIS BOOK. HIS BOOK WAS NOT FOR MONEY EARNING. SUBHASH
Re: @Unmai Vilami
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Jun 26, 2010 08:34 AM
There is Tamil and tamil words in all Indian languges be they Indo aryan or Dravidian. So Tamil is pan Indian too as per your argument. DOnt try to bring stupid resonings to justify your anti Tamil sentiments. All your postings ooze with it. By th eway who ar eyo to aks and what gives you th eright to demand Karunanidhi to chamnge hsi name? IO wnat yuo to change your name to Pagal Bakhri wil lyou do it. SO who do yo thing you are demanding people to change their names? Tamil and Sankskrit extensively borrwed words from each other. Sankkrit borrwed the Dravidian( tamil) grammer lexiconand syntax. Borrowing words form a another language is trivial. however borrowing the grammer lexicon and syntax of another language is very major and shows the influence that Tamil had on Sankrit. So evey word common to Tamil and Sanskrit are not of Sanskrit origin. Many are of Tamil origin. Karunai( Compassion) and Nidhi( wealth ) may be two words that Sanskrit borrowed from Tamil. Thess word sound very Dravidian to me. SO stop making stuid posts and assumptions. In future dont come here demanging people to change their names< who are you to do that . You have no manners or sense of decency . Karunanidhi is not asking yuo tochange names . he is celebratign the gretness of his language in his own land. So wht is it to yoy? If you feel so badly celbrate the greatness of marathi in Maharahtra . No one is stopping you and we Tamils are not recist and will not make nasty comments.
Re: @ Unmai Vilambi
by commie basher on Jun 26, 2010 12:02 AM
Dravida means a place of hot sun. Its a sanskrit word. The race connotation of the term Dravidian was given by "Caldwell" a missionary. Before him nobody knew any Dravidian race.
