its pity how low can rediff go by publishing article that glorifies such a shameful act of emergency. from couple of weeks it is going on, articles after article on rahul baba and now this. it seems rediff has landed in with a fat contract from the kangress for this media activity to promote and build the image of the royal family of india. such a shame. indeed it is true that there is no right or wrong with power on your side. u can create the perception among the population that your wrong is not wrong but right..
Congress rule in early part of the democracy remained unchallenged for decades from any quarter. There was a divided opposition, right, left, centrist were busy in challenging each other's ideology, legacy and largesse. It was not intended to strengthen democracy. There was a deluge of leaders that India never saw in post-independent era were engaged in settling scores. Despite all these inherent weakness Mrs Gandhi was grasped with a moribund sense of insecurity. Ironically she was surrounded by sycophants who CHANTED INDIRA IS INDIA. WHAT A BLASEPHEMY ! Amounts to treason, no leader how great is his stature can never surpass the interest and glory of the country. In this backdrop emergency was imposed, not to save a party or nation, to perpetuate a rule. Mrs Gandhi definitely contributed towards the strengthening the Indian State yet unconsciously owing to insecurity issue she weakened the state to some extent which was repaired by Great Indian people and its leadership who could not sustain that momentum, unfottunately due to clash of ideas and interests. It will not be out of place to mention about her attempt to create a Presidential form of Government. Nothing personal, it is a question of State. The emergency rule has not made an irrepairable damage, it only left a scar, a blot that helped India to learn the values of democracy and uphold the significance of Indian people to further the cause of democracatic institutions.JAI BHARAT
Re: Re: Emergency Was Imposedfor Authoritarianism Not Good Gover
by Harish Menon on Jun 23, 2010 03:22 PM
I wonder how often you have read Guha... he has clearly been a critic of the Emergency and Indira's authoritarianism. He has been critical of Nehru's biggest flaw - his inability to breed a second generation of capable leaders in the Congress. In fact not very long ago, he had rebutted Shashi Tharoor's article (in which Tharoor had waxed eloquent about Nehru) by highlighting, point by point, where Nehru went wrong. Even in his recent interviews and articles he has blasted the culture of sycophancy and dynasty in Congress.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Was Imposedfor Authoritarianism Not Go
by Harish Menon on Jun 23, 2010 03:39 PM
A little research is recommended before posting such lies: Congress is currently in power in 7 states. In 3 other states it is the junior partner.
BJP is currently in power in 5 states. In 5 other states it is a junior partner.
The BJP even at its peak of glory -- under its most charismatic leader A B Vajpayee -- could not garner more than 183 seats.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Was Imposedfor Authoritarianism No
by Harish Menon on Jun 23, 2010 04:04 PM
Oh well... You are looking merely at the size of the state. Delhi (Congress) has a population of 1.37 crore while HP (BJP) has a mere 60 lakh population.
Going by your logic, Kerala is set to go for the Congress very soon.
the biggest test was the Lok Sabh polls, which the BJP was trounced yet again!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Was Imposedfor Authoritarianism Not Go
by Kumar S on Jun 23, 2010 03:44 PM
They were not changed, Party divided in two or more segment, Leader remain same, And BJP changed total Name & style leader, in early Janasangh Balraj madhok and so many Now No one knew who that ba..s ...ar then Morarjee , Now they forget & change with time so no one blame their past , they take sweet thing individually, after Independence they have nothing to say in Public what they earn defeat in all, how many state BJP rulling (How Many BJP CMs )and BJP born parasite they Can not go alone number of Time they have bend just see Nitish Kumar Episode
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Was Imposedfor Authoritarianism No
by Pradip Mazumder on Jun 23, 2010 04:05 PM
I am glad that you mentioned about Balraj Madhok. BJP must seek advice and draw inspiration from Madhok, Goradia and other think tanks. they should open more to Hindu thinkers across the spectrum. Hopefully Mr. Gadkari will do the needful.
Re: just
by Typhoid Mary on Jun 23, 2010 02:59 PM
but use different yardstick and feign ignorance about "let bygones be bygones" when it comes to Modi!. Innit ZUBAIR?
China massacred its people in tianmen square. Run tanks over its people. Helped in putting in discipline and subsequent growth. Do we want to be like them? My question to people who support emergency (by saying trains were running on time, no kaala bazaari) is will you be okay ... say if one of your kinfolk is put in jail indefinitely or run over by a tank?
Re: Justifying emergency?
by Sanjeev Sen on Jun 23, 2010 03:15 PM
Babus were sh1tting in their pants. Every govt. functioned normally. Judiciary was metting out justice. no more dates. kalabazari and corruption came under control. what more do you want. These no. causes heartburn today. Over population was being taken care off. As such we the common people have rights but do have have means to exercise. Its either taken rich people or special reserved people.
Indira Gandhi was responsible for negative growth & we were behind by 40yrs compared to developed countrty.Only after Narasimha Rao ie after 1986 India started developing in all fields...
Re: Re: Indira Gandhi
by Harish Menon on Jun 23, 2010 03:25 PM
If anything, India is only reaping the benefit of what Nehru sowed. Yes, the flaws were there, but not what you assume them to be. Today's India's woes are a result of what Indira destroyed of Nehru's legacy.
Re: Re: Indira Gandhi
by bounty1097@rediffmail.com on Jun 23, 2010 03:28 PM
Yes. The disaterous socialist policies of Indira and her father led to low growth.
Re: Indira
by Dinesh Joshi on Jun 23, 2010 03:32 PM
Don't agree to this.. he had some autocratic features.. n must had only harmed the nation.. He was so dominant that he started influencing the important decisions in govt.. n threatened Indira Gandhi's iron hand in runnig the govt.. plus all guesses...????
