So US is there to stay indefinitely. Will throw out opressive and unfriendly regimes and suck out all the minerals (oil, gold, litium etc) and leave. Remember EU nations took 50 years to pay back the debt to USA on World Wars I and II
The above bullet points seem like they are all reasons for the US to exit Afghanistan, except for one that indicates that there is untold amount of fortune to be made by western mining and oil companies in Afghanistan. I don't know how the author concludes to the contrary.
The US State Dept is denying the diabolical nexus between the ISI and the Taiban/Al-Qaeda, so it still considers Pak a 'major ally against terror', at least on the outside. But given India's luck and influence, this somehow doesn't seem like it will work in our favor anyway.
Very nice article but I think the conclusions are a bit hasty. The idea of "a giving India" is from the history. And a partnership for India in Afghan means open war in South Asia!
those who think that "if India gives Kashmir" then Pakistan would stop anti-India activities...are either on drugs or some sort of medication which has messed up their brains..."giving Kashmir" will endanger the lives of millions of muslims in other parts of India...unlike our hon PM....a furious mob wont listen to US...or UN...does the US want what happened in Gujarat replicated in other parts of India, I hope not...the US and other nations should stop interfering in Kashmir... I can understand the reasons of US wanting us " to give kashmir"... it would provide it to use Kashmir as a launch pad to intensify breakaway movements in xinxiang uighyur autonomous region(muslims of china) of China..the ploy is to cease China's natural access to central Asia...so "giving up Kashmir" doesn't help Pakistan, India, Kashmiri people or muslims...it helps the US...but if Pakistan is any party to such a plan..we must ensure that this time it would be the last time that Pakistan fights us...I am not advocating nuclear weapons...we have enough conventional weapons....if a war is forced on us then we should liberate balochistan, sindh and pashto people and unify Kashmir (an integral part of India)...and of couse our leaders should not make a "political blunder" in the name of diplomacy either to prevent a war or to en
Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afghanistan?
by markme markme on Jun 22, 2010 12:12 AM
I appreciate the opnion of the people like you. I say the Pakistan & even Afghan should join to create an United India. And hence the Muslims in India would have never been blamed for remaining here without any share. Also the epenses each of these countries spending against insurgencies & the fight in between would have diverted for the well being of the needy. Presently only (as a main)one nation is benefiting from these kind of conflicts. Its none, but the nation which preserves & supports warlords(the Weapon sellers). Its their need to ensure unrestful situation at any part of the world. For one team they would lend directly & for the others they sell it indirectly.
And to You, I say, Keep it up!!. But pls avoid the threatening like words. Because as an Indian Muslim I never worry about that.
Whichever may be the country. Its not of any religion. But of the People who are born & brought up there.
Re: Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afghanistan?
by Samar Singh on Jun 22, 2010 12:41 AM
Dear Atheeque Rahman k thanks for your reply... it is quite impossible to undo the mistakes of the past...can the Soviet Union once again come into existence...do you know what was great about the soviet union...I am not a communist so I wont say Marxism....it was this something greater than religion was the uniting force of these people...after the breakway what happened ..Muslims are killing each other in central asia... a quote of yours... "It unites the mankind as a single race & religion, removing all the narrow concept of nationalistic bounda" my examples above have clearly shown that Communism does this job better than Islam...also you said in an earlier post that Islam is the fastest growing religion... It has been for all the wrong reasons. there are virtually no Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs in Afghanistan, Pakistan...Hindus have had to leave Kashmir..Muslims can have mosques in all parts of the world...but there can be no temples, churches or gurudwaras in Arabia.. coming back to this post... I have no respect for BJP or RSS.. My words are not threatening...what I have said..is precisely what can happen in such a scenario...and we dont want to give these people an excuse to do what they want to do...you are right about western intelligence agencies exploiting this...
Re: Re: Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afghanistan
by Samar Singh on Jun 22, 2010 12:47 AM
and believe me muslims have assisted these CIA/Mossad in Pakistan and Afghanistan...Zoroastrians were given three choices in Iran: convert/die/or leave...they have a become a minority in their own country...and u say that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world...u give examples which are few and isolated...the main reason is it has spread from Saudi Arabia to other parts of the world because of conquest and fear...now it has met its match...its not Hinduism or Christianity...It is western capitalism...this Western Capitalism will do to it what it did to zoroastrianism centuries ago...I am against both....but one will lose cos the two cannot coexist... May you have the courage to face such a day ... Peace be with you.. Jai Hind Samar Pratap Singh
Re: Re: Re: Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afghani
by mohd rao on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM
Dear Samar Bhai, Indonesia & Malasia was not invaded by any Muslim army , Islam reached there by the common people, u can see the history. Kindly go through the history.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afg
by Samar Singh on Jun 22, 2010 02:16 PM
Dear Mohd Rao... according to the constitution of Malaysia, a malay would surrender his muslim status if he/she were not a muslim... so much for your "common people"... and thats not it....has to be sunni muslim, shias and ahmediyas are persecuted in malaysia one more eg Iran was predominantly Sunni till 17th century....in 17th century Shah adopts Shia Islam and forces it on his subjects... all rulers in the past have done so....kindly go through history and check modern facts....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is the US considering a long-term stay in Afg
by Samar Singh on Jun 22, 2010 02:17 PM
Dear Mohd Rao... according to the constitution of Malaysia, a malay would surrender his Malay(citizenship) status if he/she were not a muslim... so much for your "common people"... and thats not it....has to be sunni muslim, shias and ahmediyas are persecuted in malaysia one more eg Iran was predominantly Sunni till 17th century....in 17th century Shah adopts Shia Islam and forces it on his subjects... all rulers in the past have done so....kindly go through history and check modern facts....
quote "The BP oil spell has left him looking incompetent and uncaring. "
First, it is spill, not spell. Second, it actually favors Democrats and the President's plan of controlled drilling in the Gulf ... unlike the drill-baby-drill shouting by Palin and her teaparty types.
Re: Re: what a chewtiya commentator
by Sammer Agarwal on Jun 22, 2010 03:53 AM
BP is self insured. Total cleanup cost, compensation, fines etc will come to about $60 billion which will be paid over several years, my estimate is atleast 20-years (it took that long for Exxon Valdez spill). So BP will monetize on this based on divident cuts and portions of their profits. In the Long Run BP will win, because BP is 40% plus American owned.
Re: Re: what a chewtiya commentator
by Loan Shark on Jun 22, 2010 01:05 AM
as you may already know, these operations were NOT insured or self-insured by BP. BP is considering raising money by loans to pay for the damages.
In other words, BP stockholders are paying. already the dividended has been suspended for the rest of 2010
Re: what a chewtiya commentator
by sri on Jun 21, 2010 11:57 PM
If you cared to read and not allowed your usual biases to come to the fore you would have realized what he meant. He is referring to the notion that Obama was not caring enough to go to the Gulf enough numer of times or for long enough. Morever, the seemingly unstoppable flow is making not just BP but Obama an his Govt look incompetant too. It is something that the South is beginning to feel rightly or wrongly.
Re: Re: what a chewtiya commentator
by Loan Shark on Jun 22, 2010 01:09 AM
that's just the author's flawed opinion ... what is enough number of visits? as if Obama needs to be camping in Gulf states. No!
Obama govt. owns no part of the problem ... just the part that they have been successful in holding BP accountable and successful in making them create a $20b escrow for damages
BP will have to fix the leak and pay for the damages ... and the longer it takes, more damages they have to pay
I have the same opinion of you all; that, Pakistan & Afghan should come into a Single & united India.
Also i agree that there are some anti-social elements within the muslim community. But, most of such groups are sponsored indirectly by FBI & Mosad, with a different intention. You might remember of a recent arrest in Iran, where the arrested person was the caretaker of Jundullah,a terrorist outfit in Pakistan. he was found to have relations with FBI & Israel. There are many such drama happening behind the scene.
But i request you all that pls, don't place yourself into the heaven of Idiots, who keeps on daydreaming always.
Wiping out Islam as a religion is not so easy. Because it is still rated as the youngest & fastest growing religion in the world. In India alone daily more than 20 peoples are coming to Islam. I hope you may not have forgot the 'Meenakshipuram'(in Tamilnadu) incident; where a village as a whole came to Islam. Such is the revolutionistic capability of Islam. The living legends like Cat stevenson(Yousuful Islam), Muhammad Ali(Casius Clay), Murad Hofman, etc are the evidences of its ideological potential. You might all remember what Bernad Shaw said about Islam.
And u can see too many othr past figures in India as well as in the Whole world.
It unites the mankind as a single race & religion, removing all the narrow concept of nationalistic bounda
