Kudos to India for snubbing china's pressure and attending the event. China regime is perveted one with no values attached to human rights. Its high time that china should be singled out like South Africa during apartied era. The world forces should come together on this agenda. Initially china membership in the UN Security council should taken back.
Re: New Power creates EGO.
by Sandeep Nibber on Dec 10, 2010 09:01 PM
" With great power, comes great responsibility" IT ws originally said by Uncle Ben and reminded to Peter Parker by His aunt. That being said, power corrupts the absolute absolutely. It has corrupted US in past and now affecting China.
its the US which took the initiative for providing the noble prize. every otehr country except north korea, cuba and iran have followed them. if india is left behind, then US will get angry. hence we also did the same. what so great in it..mms is a santa banta..the real sardars are protecting us along the wagah..
The issue of attending Nobel ceremony is not about freedom. I admire Chinese for the progress that they made and I don't think their internal affairs are our business. However, China is becoming pretty aggressive towards us and it is completely disregarding the sensitivities of India. Case in point - visas on stapled papers for people from J&K. If China is so insensitive to our concerns, it cannot expect us to be sensitive to its concerns. Therefore, I appreciate India for choosing to attend the Nobel peace prize ceremony.
China could have accepted the prize,had it not be given for the peace.The students in China demanded the democracy and they all had to face the lethal bullets.The dictators cannot be the peace loving, it is of no use to talk about peace with them,so a Nobel prize for peace has got no meaning for China.The chair will always be unoccupied.
well, i see in lot of blog that Mr Liu is being compared to Arundati roy of India.. in fact, i see lot of contrast than any similarities here..
Arundati Roy is an illogical and self proclaimed intellectual who has no strong theories or history behind her any statements. she is looking for fame unlike Mr Liu. he never wanted limelight.
Mr Liu has clear view of what is democracy and just asking for fundamental rights of Chinese.
people like A Roy are looking to support losers and people who make excuses for all their failures in life and also, A Roy kind of people hate, dislike and feel inferior inside to all the successful people. that is the best thing you see in A Roy and Nakvi (dawn editor from Bombay) keep blaming west for all failures in the world and support dirty losers.
Re: why comparison??
by dharmendra jadoun on Dec 10, 2010 08:37 PM
there are too many differences ...
A Roy get Royal treatment in India unlike hard jail in china ...
kashmiri fight with ak-47 and pak military and ISI support...
A Roy is just an outsider doing lip service to various struggles (basically anti-india to get more response critics etc ) without loosing any comfort of AC.
Re: Re: why comparison??
by dharmendra jadoun on Dec 10, 2010 08:44 PM
sorry for writing kashmiri here ... this is what constant propaganda & media brainwashing does ...
from Kashmiri - i mean few religious muslim people from shrinagar and around towns of J & K.
Re: why comparison??
by New TrawnStar on Dec 10, 2010 08:39 PM
The issue of attending Nobel ceremony is not about freedom. I admire Chinese for the progress that they made and I don't think their internal affairs are our business. However, China is becoming pretty aggressive towards us and it is completely disregarding the sensitivities of India. Case in point - visas on stapled papers for people from J&K. If China is so insensitive to our concerns, it cannot expect us to be sensitive to its concerns. Therefore, I appreciate India for choosing to attend the Nobel peace prize ceremony.
Re: why comparison??
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 08:25 PM
But Kasmiries think otherwise,they think Arundhati Roy is their messiah to help them come out of oppression..so,its all about perceptions and point of view..
Re: Re: why comparison??
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:47 PM
Kashmiris?
Which ones, the 8 year olds throwing stones, instead of going to school?
The 80 year olds going to Pakistan for pilgrimages in their spare time and encouraging the 8 year olds to throw stones the rest of the time?
The young men, who go to Paksitan to find nubile brides for themselves?
Pray, do tell which Kashmiris?
Ajmal Kasab also perceives that he was set up and that he did not kill anyone on 26/11.
There are many worthies who perceive that 9/11 was an inside job, a zionist conspiracy. Infact, some of these even provide light entertainment on rediff's boards.
Re: Re: why comparison??
by Nayak on Dec 10, 2010 08:41 PM
what perception are you talking about? fighting for the land which their ancestors never came inherited?
if kashmir people feel that they are truly muslims and want their own land, they should go to PAK or Saudi Arabia.
well, it is so unfortunate that people like A Roy get more publicity but not like people like Kiran Bedi and A Kalam saab.
Re: Re: Re: why comparison??
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 08:40 PM
The separatist Muslim section...Doom Shanti,or om shanti,whatever,its a fake name,never mind..
Re: why comparison??
by guy giggling on Dec 10, 2010 08:39 PM
Arundhati Roy is a self serving, self stylist who is always on the lookout for some free publicity
Re: why comparison??
by ratheesh raman on Dec 10, 2010 08:26 PM
Basically the Nobel has become the weapon of the 'free' west against other nations. It is quite a bit biased. So it is for India to decide whether to give some respect to the prize or not. If we do, then there is no question of not attending the function under pressure from china. We will have to attend even if gilani is given nobel
Arundhati Roy as the next Nobel Peace Prize winner and wondering about India's reaction then.
My answer to any such:
1) India does not decide the Nobel Prize winners, including the Peace Prize, next year it could be Wen Jiaobo or Kim Kardashian or Arundhati Roy or Paris Hilton or maybe some one like Baba Amte, who knows? 2) If India wagged her tail to Chinka (once again) this year and boycotted the Nobel Peace Prize, can anyone on earth guarantee that Arundhati Roy would NOT win next year? 3) Even if India boycotted the Nobel Peac Prize this year, would even Chinka boycott the Nobel Peace Prize, if & when Arundhati Roy wins it? To say nothing about the Army with a State next door.
India, has for the first time, under the leadership of Manmohan Singh, shown some spine. It is not about supporting the US, it is about telling China in clear terms to behave itself. NOT the people of China, who are extremely sweet, but their Communist for namesake government.
Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 08:13 PM
Dear brother,I am not going to Roy,referring to your foot note,easier said than done,it is not a joke to manage 1.3 billion population and achieve per capita GDP $6100.
It is not easy to maintain discipline,law and order,and unity.
Any drunken driver's license is cancelled in China immidiately..can we expect this in India ?
I am giving you an example,how was modern China built..Heilongjiang province is the coldest province in China.The army just use to practice over there.But one day China wanted to develop that province and Mao appealed to all educated chinese people,doctor,engineers,etc to relocate to that new place to help the development.
Many chinese people leave their houses and settled in that province for nation building.Is it possible to achieve that in India.
Common people in China does not know LuXiaBao,he is just a traitor,same as ArundhatiRoy..
And UN permanent seat,nobel prize,these are all useless things,all these things ar under control of white people..congress is using these just to divert common people from core issues..In NDAs time these were not issues at all... Suddenly congress made all Onions to disappear from the market,NDA was offguard as its India shining campaign was derailed by an onion..so Onion is more important for us than a security council seat...
Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:22 PM
Om Shanti, or Om Paisa Paisa Paisa, export - import - export - import, whatever you are, I've been seeing your posts for a bit now.
Firstly, I've travelled beyond the borders of Jhumritalaiya, in fact beyond the borders of India even and travelled to your paradise on earth, China, among other palces.
Shanghai is mind blowing, I loved the place, the weather, the stunningly good looking women, the gorgeous food, real chinese delicacies and above all, the friendly, hard working people.
What has ANY of that got to do with the Chinese communist governemnt's misbehaviour with India?
1) Does achieving a per Capita GDP of $ 6100 give the PRC the right to staple visas on sheets of paper for Kashmiris? 2) Does cancelling drunken drivers' licenses give the PRC the license to force India's hand when we try to proclaim JUD LET etc. etc. terrorist organizations?
OS, I don't know who you are. Maybe you're a Chinese communist spy & I'm wasting my time or maybe you're just another ambitious fellow Indian, but I'll say this about myself, I'm also ambitious as hell, quite successful but ever hungry for more. I also love my motherland dearly, and while I respect China's achievements and like their people, I do find their government's bullying disgusting & and am wise enough to differentiate between their government and people.
Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:26 PM
I fully agree that a permanent seat on the UN is nothing but another employment opportunity for our IFS officers.
Nobel Prize is important, for the winner as it gives him / her some money & some recognition & for the Nobel Committee as it provides them gainful employment for sometime.
Onions, food prices, CWG, corruption are much much more important than all teh above.
I think, even in India, apart from teh English Blabberati, like myself, and her immediate family, hardly anyone knows Arundhati Roy.
WHAT HAS ANY OF THIS GOT TO DO WITH PRC'S MISBEHAVIOUR WITH INDIA? How dare the PRC treat us badly?
I repeat the Government of China, NOT their lovely people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 08:32 PM
For this you need to read history books.I am fed up of replying same things again and again.
Who started it first? What was the date?You have to read neutral history.
Kennedy's stooge Nehru started in 1959 and still continues..and no use for me repeating the same things again and again..if you think,chinese common people are lovely,why we cannot be lovely? Do you think ,if a common chinese read these things they will be happy? Let government settle with goverment,why we common people brand others ?
Why our government dump the problems on us? Do you ever see Chinese govt,dump their problems to common people.No.Thats why their common people are sweet and we indians are argumentative and irritating...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 09:10 PM
You are argumentative Indian,so you will keep on arguing...when you point 1 finger at others,please remember 4 fingers are pointed towards yourself also..
Yes,I am a global traveller and well aware about American and European people as well...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:42 PM
OS, you're arguing with someone who has read his history.
Nehru started this? So? Have we continued it? Has MMS lectured China? Did we allow Tibetan protests during the Chinese Olympics? Have we said Huwaei should be allowed into India only if it changes its business to making footwear?
What do you think India should do, to atone for Nehruji? Should we cut off our head (Arunachal) & present it to CHina? How about our shoulder also (Kashmir)?
At every stage CHina has opposed us. The Nuclear Deal. Every problem with Pakistan.
Stop being such an apologist man. Stand up for being Indian.
Have you met any Americans personally? They're great guys, take my word for it. Any Europeans, know what, they're great guys too. What about Pakistanis? I personally think there people must be good too. People at an individual level are rarely bad, especially to foreigners like you, its the government's actions that matter, Dear brother.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:37 PM
Indian common people ARE lovely! Don't you watch Amir Khan's Atithi Devo Bhavo ads on the Jap girl in Lhasa (I think).
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 09:10 PM
You are argumentative Indian,so you will keep on arguing...when you point 1 finger at others,please remember 4 fingers are pointed towards yourself also..
Yes,I am a global traveller and well aware about American and European people as well...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:35 PM
Firstly, sorry for an unduly harsh reply, that was uncalled for, on my part.
Secondly, you didn't say it, but repeatedly, in post after post, you keep on harping about China's achievements.
My point is that this is NOT about China's achievements, its about their misbehaviour towards India.
A person's good deeds in one field are not a license, to misbehave elsewhere. Like just being India's so called most respected 'Clean' industrialist does not give you a license to cast aspertions on someone raising logical questions on your company's behaviour, without answering the questions.
Again, you have NOT SAID this, merely, reiterated the positives of China multiple times.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 09:15 PM
See the good side of everything and learn to correct yourself,this should be our principle,we need to take all good things from different countries including China...CG,2G,Adarsh so many scams in a short period,nothing inspirational...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by K Kumar on Dec 10, 2010 08:38 PM
Just get out and stop denigrating the word "Om Shanti" - for your Chinese / Paki friends. Your postings here are a disgrace ! Try to do this in China and you will learn what free speech means and why Roy is a bandit and Mr. Liu deserves this award. You will end up in a jail in that country for indulging in anti-national propoganda against India just like your patron (most likely in China Pak) wll be if they do in China.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by om shanti on Dec 10, 2010 09:12 PM
Take it easy,if I say also same things,then how can we know each others views?
Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by New TrawnStar on Dec 10, 2010 08:40 PM
The issue of attending Nobel ceremony is not about freedom. I admire Chinese for the progress that they made and I don't think their internal affairs are our business. However, China is becoming pretty aggressive towards us and it is completely disregarding the sensitivities of India. Case in point - visas on stapled papers for people from J&K. If China is so insensitive to our concerns, it cannot expect us to be sensitive to its concerns. Therefore, I appreciate India for choosing to attend the Nobel peace prize ceremony.
Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Prem Viswanathan on Dec 10, 2010 09:34 PM
Wrong. In India, govt does not call Roy a traitor. They have even refused to prosecute her for her statements. There may be protests from some fringe groups - but that is the essence of any democracy. If Lu Xia Bao was in India, he would not have even be known to the world because our democracy would have allowed him to start a political party and he would have eventually failed (if he were honest) or become a part of the corrupt system (if he were pragmatic). But this chance is refused to the individual in the Chinese political system and this is where the differences between our ideologies and values start.
Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Shri Hegde on Dec 10, 2010 08:07 PM
Moron, Arundhati Roy is roaming freely, even making anti-India statements. She is not jailed 11 years like Xiaobo. That's the difference between India and Chaina. Many in India don't realize the importance of freedom, they take it for granted and think the grass is greener in China.
Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by krb on Dec 10, 2010 08:36 PM
But Article 370 always works inside that state when anti India statement is made....it is worst than being jail..worst than china...
Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:14 PM
Please change your name to Shri Moron, ASAP, as that better befits your intelligence.
What's your IQ? Did you even understand what is written?
I have put Arundhati Roy's name in between Kim Kardashian, a famous bex symbol & Paris Hilton, famous for bussy (b = p) flashing & home made born (b = p).
Maybe you think, I think the grass is greener in China. Well, I DON'T think the grass is greener in China OR in the US. I think the grass is greener where you work your butt off along with intelligence.
I also think you should give up thinking, as it could overload & prove injurious to your intellectual resources.
Re: Re: Re: Some MORONs are predicting
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 10, 2010 08:15 PM
The above reply is meant for whatever life form, passes under the name of Shri Hegde.
