That lady in her zeal to xritianize the country, projected the country as a hopeless land of poors and lepors, to get money from abroad. Result? Everywhere outside India the image of India is one of a hopeless land of poors, indelibly etched in minds of people. It might take a generation to undo that image (OK, India is not rich I know but it is better than what she projected).
Never forget she was a fundamentalist xtian with ulterior motive to "harvest" the poor souls in name of serving them. Anyone remembers she held a long fast in Delhi to demand reservation for xtians so that poor people have one more reason to convert, apart from receiving the goodies donated to them by Missionaries using foreign money.
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Ripudaman Singh on Aug 27, 2010 01:29 PM
You hit the nail on head....but in this Sickilar country....NDTV, IBN n fellow xtian funded channel...followers would never understand this fact...
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 01:49 PM
I think there is a Terrible Damage done to your Brain, Please get it checked pronto!!! Can you can get me the statistics of How many she converted to christianity and how many she helped? Are you saying that out of 100 she has helped 100 have converted? Did she Help selectively, Choosing those poor who were ready to conver and ignored the rest? Its people like you who have Damaged the Nation's Image, Only a person Filled with the Holy Grace of God can do the things she has done for Humanity.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by dorothy mascarenhas on Aug 27, 2010 02:04 PM
Good one Anslem, I am glad some of us christians think it right to retaliate and make these idiots see some sense.
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 03:18 PM
Thank ur Jesus that you are in India ,we allow you to do so..
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anonymous on Aug 27, 2010 08:16 PM
>> Good one Anslem, I am glad some of us christians think it right to retaliate and make these idiots see some sense
That "us Christians" shows the evil mentality "you" xtians. Your words speak more about you than you think. Be careful.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anonymous on Aug 27, 2010 08:29 PM
Read my post again. I have no idea how many souls she could harvest (nor would it be revealed by Missionary of Charities). What I am saying is her ulterior motive was to harvest the souls in guise of serving the poor, a common phenomenon across all the missioanries across the world who "serve" the poor. And yes, I have seen this personally in mutliple countries apart from India.
In theory she would project herself (like all missionaries) as secular, willing to help anyone in need with a hope that poor soul can somehow be "harvested" by guile or monetary means or whatever. And I stand by this.
In summary, saints are people who do good to humanity without ANY expectation. She certainly never did that and always wanted to harvest as many souls as possible in guise of serving poor. Why else did she demand reservation for converted dalit christians? That was to make conversion more lucrative to poor souls.
I hope this will make some sense to you, although given the fact that you are already a "harvested" soul, chances seem to be low to me.
Lastly, if you have a shred of decency, argue without using foul language.
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 01:40 PM
Bingo..very few people are aware what she was...her sole aim was coversion..I hate her for that,sugar coated poison.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by dorothy mascarenhas on Aug 27, 2010 02:26 PM
Mr. Ajit Pandey,
Have you even had the decency to visit any of her institutions or speak to the poeple who have been helped by her charities to write about her work? Or have you already done a Phd on her intentions and aim? You and the likes like you are a sick, jealous lot who have not been able to achieve even a fraction of what she has done for humanity, and let me tell you this is not the only nation that she has helped she has helped the world, so get your facts right and let me tell you no one mind you no one who has tasted her charity has ever complained that she has tried to convert them in any way. If they have ever converted (I am not sure cause I have not heard of anyone who has) then it is of their own will because none of you could give them the diginity to die in peace on a warm bed full of love. As I have replied to Anonymous and said go live there for a few days enjoy their hospitality (free of cost)and then lets see if you will you write the crap your dirty mind idle mind has written. Its people like you who are selfish to the core and failures who cannot do good that write such crap and poison other peoples mind, you and anonymous are making a laughing stock of yourselves.
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 03:09 PM
what...enjoy their hospitality (free of cost) ,For god sake ,I will never ever do that,will never be trapped by their sophisticated propaganda ,she was all fake to the core.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 02:10 PM
Faulty view point of two or three jesters like you will never be able to wipe away the Godly Work that she has selflessly Done for Humanity irrespective of Religion. Her Lord and God has blessed her with this Unique ability to serve others without malice, what God has Blessed no man can destroy! God Bless You!
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 02:00 PM
Did she offer you any of her 'sugar Coated poison' too bad she didn't because then at least she would have done you a very big favor :)
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 03:11 PM
She would offer it to anyone who is ready to convert ,did she offer you something???
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by hihello on Aug 27, 2010 03:22 PM
@Anonymous.
Moron remember & remember that there is a "GENEROSITY IS LIMITED BUT STUPIDITY IS INFINITE"
what do u know about Mother Teressa, the person gave away her whole life to serve , do u have the guts to put on that, u s-u-c-k-e-d-u-p maniac can sit talk out but can't do the same.
Moron first practice & even imitate the service, she had done & than let's talk.
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Prashanth DSouza on Aug 27, 2010 02:56 PM
no one has project india as what it isn't. every country projects itself in ways that they want to be perceived. But this is entirely a political decision and has to be enforced at a political level as well. Are you saying that the pictures presented are not from india?
how long are we going to just pretend that misery doesn't exist in india?
This is not about poverty, as you try to "project" yourself. It is about the hopeless desolation that is part and parcel of India's mindset. Nowhere does a person slide so far down the human chain as in our country. In other countries of asia, there are poor people. This is true even of China. But they never lose their self respect, as a person would lose in India if he is poor. They are not 'MAYOOS' they are just poor and will find their level in society without anyone asking them for their credentials. Whereas in India the person loses his dignity, his reason to live, his children will be abused and ill-treated, his fate will be worse than even a dog. No one has been able to explain why this phenomenon exists among our people most of all. Are you trying to say that this is somethign acceptable at any level? And how much of this are you going to hide?
There is no shame in speaking out the truth in this manner. It means that we are able to accept it and do what is necessary to remedy it.
Receiving help as you are dying is not goodies, receiving it with the dignity you deserve is not being 'bech
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anonymous on Aug 28, 2010 12:07 AM
Read my post carefully. I never said misery does not exist in the country. And I agree with some of the points about suffering in the country.
What I said is Ms Teresa made a career out of projecting this misery to outside world and achieved her objective of converting people. C'mon, let's admit this, the only objective a missionary is to harvest the souls and that was her objective too. This objective she achieved under the garb of helping poor souls.
Want to know the cost? Think of Calcutta. What image immediately comes to mind? Gutters, poors lepors blah blah. True whether you are indian or foreigner (telling from experience).
In summary, I still stand by my claim that her acts of helping poor were not selfless acts, but driven by desire to convert them and that is not a saintly act. This might or might not have helped the subjects in cases, but certainly is not a saintly act. It is a carefully planned act to convert people under the guise of serving them.
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Narakasur on Aug 27, 2010 01:27 PM
Just because you managed to ignore them doesnt mean that those poor never existed. It is people like you that have brought our country to where we are. Gutter I meant.
Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by dorothy mascarenhas on Aug 27, 2010 02:00 PM
Dear Anonymous, First and foremost you hade behind the mask of anonymous, you gutless, spineless creature.
Secondly your writeup reeks of jealousy, and failure because you can't do what she has done.
Thirdly what terrible damage to Nation's image are you talking about? Whoever you are remember people like these do not damage the nation's image, its people like you and the corrupt greedy swines called, politicians, officials etc who are swallowing your nations wealth that are damaging the nation's image.
Before you make such allegations, I would suggest you go down to these institutions, live there for a few days (free of cost), and see the real side of reality, don't bark simply because you have all the time in the world to doing nothing. You will know how many have really been converted? It is such a shame 2% - 3% of Christians (if the census are right) can make you feel so shattered and insecure. How jealous can one be of other peoples achievements U unhappy sick soul. Tell me how many of your nation's people have you ever bothered to help or uplift from poverty or help them die in diginity? It is a pity the Christians do not think it fit to reply or stoop to the level of you gutless, spineless creature's allegations and clarify things. Don't get led by stupid political parties who only to get political mileage n write rubbish, be practical and see both sides of the story and you won't make rash judgements and write crap. May God enlighten and b
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 02:40 PM
Well said Dorathy, these guys weill never understand because they are blinded with hate not love. Blinded with malice and misinformation, I liked your point about 2 or 3% of christians making people of the likes of the above writers insecure..point well put!
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Ripudaman Singh on Aug 27, 2010 02:17 PM
But the fact is Conersion takes place....number is irrelevent...
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 02:29 PM
If Conversion do happen its the result of a Complete change of Heart and belief and certainly not a result of an exchange of Money.. its absurd to think that Missionaries have the funds to look after all 'converted' families for the rest of their lives, if so then I guess they are doing a damn good job at eradicating poverty In India by your assumptions, So whats the problem?
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anonymous on Aug 28, 2010 12:27 AM
Dear Dorothy, How does my name matter in the argument? If I disclose my real name, how would it make a difference?
Second point: Yes, I certainly can not do what she did. I certainly don't want to convert people under guise of serving them. No, if I serve downtrodden, it will be without any expectation of return (i.e. changing your faith).
How do you know I am corrupt politician? What do you know about me? Talk sense.
For your knowledge, I have been to such institutions which "serve" the poor. Both in India as well as abroad. Modus operandi is same. Pick the poorest souls and harvest them. Be it Asia or Africa (which is where some of my friends went for harvesting souls). Only a naive person will believe their sole aim is to serve the poor. No, it is not. The primary aim is to save the souls or harvest the souls, depending upon how you look at it.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 02:11 PM
3% of Indian population is more than many countries ..and remember all are converted ones...open your eyes,we know it all ,that lady was a conversion machine
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 02:45 PM
Prove it Ajit, that she was, dont speculate it you who need to open your eyes reflect and try to reconnet to your lost soul within.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 03:12 PM
My sould is intact and Hinduism is the reason for that ,we never convert anyone. If you are good human being you are Hindu
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by hihello on Aug 27, 2010 03:24 PM
@Ajit.
r u a duckling.
Moron remember & remember that there is a "GENEROSITY IS LIMITED BUT STUPIDITY IS INFINITE"
what do u know about Mother Teressa, the person gave away her whole life to serve , do u have the guts to put on that, u s-u-c-k-e-d-u-p maniac can sit talk out but can't do the same.
Moron first practice & even imitate the service, she had done & than let's talk.
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 03:00 PM
What is a conversion by your defination? She never coerced people using deceit did she? She gave them the Truth and Life and relied upon their intelligence to do the right thing, Has any One complained that she was forcing them into Christianity? if not then your understanding of Christian needs a serious review. You are implying as if People convert through lies deciet, how long can a lie survive? Its only truth that reigns for eternity, Its not all talk that can convince people its through example and Mother Threasa is a Shining example of her Faith. If by doing good for her fellow men she was a Conversion Machine then Hats off to her, At lest she took care of every one as her own inspite of these poor and needy people being ignored and left to die by their own clan for genertions.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 03:14 PM
conversion is ,you feed a hungry and say "Jesus loves you" ,to start it..u understand what I say..probably u know it very well.
Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anonymous on Aug 28, 2010 03:38 PM
Which nation do you belong to? Is it not same as yours (as per your profile)? Your language seems to indicate you belong to some other nation.
You know why you don't identify with same nation as me? Coz you are mentally colonized soul, already harvested by the missionaries. Your relious belief should not dictate what nation you identify with.
Re: Re: Re: Terrible damage to nation's image by Ms Teresa
by Anselm Noronha on Sep 16, 2010 05:50 PM
Anonymous, which nation do you come from? I am an Indian and a Christian .. My country and constitution gives me the right to profess the religion of my choice so dont confuse yourself. But you? i dont have a clue about you mate! Talibanistan perhaps ???
something so simple is taken so easily out of context and maligned.
It is such a simple matter and ppl make up their own stories and other will agree.
A foreigner coming to India helping destitutes, who were otherwise ignored by other in the society. You don't have the guts to do it urself and will pass comment on other who do it.
Re: why?
by hari on Aug 27, 2010 01:28 PM
yes..foreigners went about their harmless crusades for jerusalem too..how much do you think the mentality has changed? only method of operating changes.
Re: why?
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 01:33 PM
She did everything to them and she converted each of them ,do u see the real picture why she got Nobel Prize and not Gandhi.. You people and dumb.
Re: Re: why?
by dorothy mascarenhas on Aug 27, 2010 02:38 PM
Mr. Ajit Pandey,
No people are not dumb. They know you are an idiot. If you think by you writing such crap people are going to believe you then you got to be kidding no one but yourself. What a cheap character you are, before you write such crap get your facts right man. I challenge you to show the world the research you have done about the conversions she has made. If you want cheap fame and glory get it some other way you cheapo. GOD BLESS YOUR ROTTEN MIND.
Re: Re: why?
by Swatkat M on Aug 27, 2010 01:53 PM
I stay in Kolkata. The Missionaries of Charity do not convert, that's not their mission - their mission is to help. Come to the city, look at the poverty, and look at the good work they have done, and then comment.
Re: Peace
by Anonymous on Aug 27, 2010 01:25 PM
Do you mean the tribe of people who intend to "harvest" the souls (like you, already harvested soul)in name of serving the poor?
country is country of copycats..mother got recognition..well deserved.but our country in general and kolkata goes gaga..paint metro stations in missionary colours..release stamps and what not..AR rehamn gets oscar..every tom dick and harry calls him mastero and every award function gets him a award.. ia feel sick.Are there not others who are working equally hard as mother teresa..albeit without necessary funds or recognition.?
Re: Re: our
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 02:19 PM
Benedict ..Did u hear what I said ,I am saying my grandfather Mr. Parashuram Pandey runs a school for poors with his onw money...do u hear that ....we don't need Teressas..we need more Gandhis..Viveknands..Bhagat sings..
Re: Re: our
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 02:17 PM
My Grandfather ,he runs a school with his pension and donates it all...we don't need Terresas to bail my nation out ...
Re: our
by Juhi on Aug 27, 2010 01:08 PM
I agree..but aren't there so many other core issues today which the media conveniently ignores and hypes only the unneccessary elements! Injustice always there!
The world only remembers some people while ignoring or forgetting people like Baba Amte who did similar work as MT. It may be because Baba Amte has not worked under missionary activity and his work is not acknowledged. Similarly there are many people in the society who are working for the poor and not even asking to be recognized. They are the true contributes to humanity.
Re: What about other people like Baba Amte
by Juhi on Aug 27, 2010 01:07 PM
Even Mother was not after publicity!! at that time no media was existing the way it is today!
Re: What about other people like Baba Amte
by Prashanth DSouza on Aug 27, 2010 01:21 PM
Well, you are not right that BA is not well remembered. He is among those jewels of India who will always be remembered. In fact, he is remembered through his son even more. His son continues his good work after him.
Praising either one of them doesn't take away from the others qualities n memories.
Re: What about other people like Baba Amte
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 01:44 PM
Very true ,its all westeren media who made her what she is ..she got the reward for converting so many people in India
Re: SHE
by Victorian on Aug 27, 2010 01:07 PM
I did not think that way. But she was a fundamentalist when it came to religion. But she also did work for the people, like some fundamentalist organization is working for humanity but because of religious viewpoints and for the cause of religion. The real contributors are those who have no religious affiliations but worked for the poor like Baba Amte.
Re: Re: SHE
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 01:27 PM
what did she do wrong? Just love and caring for the Poor and disadvantaged, Thats the Values of her Religion that does not mean she was a fundamentalist she did not put a clause I will help you only if you convert? And how did you know that Baba Amte did not have any ulterior motives, that you dare accuse Mother Theresa and belittle her work? You need to do some soul searching or probaly speak to the thousans Mother Thereas has touched and Helped.
Re: SHE
by Anselm Noronha on Aug 27, 2010 01:34 PM
Mustaq Christian Terrorism???? are you serious? Before throwing stones at her, put your house in order. Did Mother Theresa issue any Fatwas in this regard?
Re: Re: SHE
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 01:47 PM
Mustaq,Absolutely right man ,conversion was her only aim and she worked all her life for conversion not for poors,they were just soft targets
Re: Re: SHE
by ajit pandey on Aug 27, 2010 01:48 PM
the one who issue a fatwa is at least honest ,she did it all behind the scene ,Baptism in church ,you fools ,u will never understand how bad is chiritanity ..
Re: SHE
by Swatkat M on Aug 27, 2010 01:56 PM
Are you serious? Go read the history of north-east India, conversions took place in the 19th century with the work of English missionaries. Mother Teresa was not even born at that time.
unlike others hinduism says serve the poor..not poor muslims or hindus or christians..a very well funded organization is missionaries of charity..go around in AC buses..agreed initially they might not have had that but now story is different. CONVERSION as a precondition to serve is not acceptable.
Re: Re: friends
by hari on Aug 27, 2010 12:54 PM
proof..stats!!!..lol..it is visible..you need to look..missionaries have only one agenda..i am not belittling her work..but speaking in general.
