Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose , a great follower of world famous sanyasi Swami Vivekananda, was and is the greatest national Hero. People believe that his Nationalistic view and love for the country was even unimaginable by the 'ahimsa' followers. Though most of the people , except limited few , wanted him to come back to India from Siberia, Russia and lead the country , our country should have done much more effort on this front. We should try our best to bring into light about the life and works of netaji Bose that can become a torch bearer for the present and future generation.
Re: Netaji Bose
by Santosh Pawar on Nov 30, 2009 05:07 PM
Its unfortunate that the gandhi's and nehru's over shadowed the great freedom fighters like SC Bose, Vir Savarkar, Bhagat Singh, Chandrashekhar Azad....
We dont understand who is the real hero. we just make some one hero and the dissatisfaction thrugh this board. did any one understand that time the service of bose? no. It is no use to lament now. Understand who is true and follow them.
Re: We are Indians
by jayanta mukharjee on Nov 30, 2009 05:43 PM
you need to understand only tht if tht time s c bose / bhagat sigh / lajpat rai / b g tilak were not thr we would hav got independence at least in the year 1957 or even later
Re: We are Indians
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 05:16 PM
If you dont understand then you are not an Indian. So just keep your big mouth shut and follow your own prodigy. You are one of the guy who is peaking like Nehru.
from last one year i am regularly reading message board but i dont find any thing against RSS,BJP or brahmins only what i can understand is this rediff has got some chamcha of RSS,BJP because of this though they try hard at time of election to bring down congress in message board but poor. Be frank Rediff dont be so mean minded people like you are spoling our great country just wake up for our great country and not for those chaddiwalas!!!!!! Jai Hind
Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by Santosh Pawar on Nov 30, 2009 05:10 PM
Truth is always sour my dear. If ur so upset by these posting either u can stop reading these posts or go to ur motherland ie porkistan.. the land of d1ckk_CCUUTTS
Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:12 PM
We all know who is pro RSS and pro congress. I think you didnt under stood the whole article. This article also paints RSS black only others. So, I think you need to teach in some madrassa where you can preach anti rss lessons. So sorry!
Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by Ramachandra N on Nov 30, 2009 05:25 PM
AbheHalfCutDick, firstTry to fix solutions ofUrSkullCapWalas Get a solution of urReligions difference between MuhajirsAhamadiansSufisSunnis. Then tryto poke urVeryLongNose intoHinduism,
Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by gaurav shukla on Nov 30, 2009 05:15 PM
Brahmins need to come out of their caste pit, shun caste-politicians like BJP and join anti-caste politicians like BSP and Congress. It's a crime for them to be proud of their caste, you know, cause it's = casteism.
Re: Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:19 PM
Most of BJP leadrs are back ward class naming them Modi, Shivraj, Ydeuu many more. Now what Gaurav.
Re: Re: Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by gaurav shukla on Nov 30, 2009 05:27 PM
But still every one knows and calls it communal and caste party out to divide Indians and Hindus. Because every one says so, then it has to be so. Look at Congress- it doesn't distinguish between castes and treats all them as equal.
Re: Re: Re: Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:37 PM
Indians? Joke Allowing conversion in tribals belt to make them vote bank.Giving ration card to illegal Bangladeshi migrants and allowing to use our natural resources. We are all aware of communal riots during 80's before masjid episode. Now planning to give quota for converted Christians and converted Muslims.. So congress can be called as anti-hindu. If there is rise in right wing hindu group its all because of congress's anti-hindu agenda.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:52 PM
stil BJP has 116, so I can say they are all hard line hindtuva followers which congress can snatch from BJP.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: REDIFF BOARD P RO RSS
by gaurav shukla on Nov 30, 2009 05:50 PM
If it's the right party then why the heck did it end up with even fewer votes than General elections 2004? It's alleged that 2004 bjp debacle was because of low voter turn out as a result of confidence on the part of bjp supporters. But 2009?
Re: New Zealand is the BEST
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 05:01 PM
I would rename you as junior Nehru :-). We are discussing something important buddy why do you want to drag Indians to other soil and live their as immigrant?
Re: Re: New Zealand is the BEST
by hi hi on Nov 30, 2009 05:19 PM
This is the answer to ur why. Life is precious u've only 1 life to live why not live it peacefully instead of fighting and arguing. You automatically add 5 to 10 yrs of ur life if u live in NZ peacefully...
Re: Re: Re: New Zealand is the BEST
by jayanta mukharjee on Nov 30, 2009 05:35 PM
then wht u mean to say tht all indians shld go to NZ like u (ch)hi (ch)hi
Re: Re: Re: New Zealand is the BEST
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 05:23 PM
So you are an opprotunist and you dont know what is the meaning of Human life. You are suggesting whatever is happening in India let it be but you should run away from here and live in peace. Friend how about getting kicked back from a foreign country??? Think before you act dear. Who wants to leave motherland?
he should be made role model for india and and called national hero ashamed of seeing airport bus stand streets named of fake gandhis country deserves to know the trugh on netaji fuckinn bootlicking slave congress party taken indian citizens granted shame on them
We people in India celebrate death and birth anniversary of Neheru, Mahatma Gandhi and ors, who contributed none for our country. Why do we stay apart to celebrate the birthday of our Great Heroes and in all conversation to pronounce their names? Isnt it us who have blaspheme our real Heroes?
Re: Doubt who the real Hero is
by Z X on Nov 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Demoracy (whatever that is today ) is the contribution of Nehru, but I doubt Gandhi's contribution to India except hartals/strikes & changing tracks midway (two faced traits)
Re: Re: Doubt who the real Hero is
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 04:50 PM
Do we really have Democracy in this Country? What do you feel friend :-). Nehru did nothing but to partition out and create a hatered in Hindua and Muslims. Imagine if India was there with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan. Just imagine the power. Nehru applied nothing but the divide and rule policy of the britishers.
He was the LION amongst the rats. The courage and conviction in the man was extraordinary. Who else had the courage to defy the British rule and move out even when heavily guarded in house captivity. The way he met Hitler and moved to Japan was a military insight which only a fighting general could have. Alas! he gave his blood but the country did not get the freedom he desired. Salutation to the man with the Lion Heart!!
Re: BOSE
by ACHINTA ROY on Nov 30, 2009 04:28 PM
But politically, he was not as prudent as Gandhiji.He should have realized before leaving the mainstream that through passage of time he would have been the most acceptable leader amongst Indians and even the great Mahatma knew this. However, like a true soldier he was in a hurry to free India which partially ended up in a fiasco.
Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 04:29 PM
Shantanu, Every Indian respect him and his courage. Its the politician who kept him always away from lime light.
Re: Re: BOSE
by Z X on Nov 30, 2009 04:42 PM
It was Netaji's actions and determination that british govt became afraid & jittery during the WWII to keep India that they decided to grant independence, not because of spineless leaders like Gandhi Gandhi & Nehru.
Re: Re: BOSE
by Sheetal Kaur on Nov 30, 2009 04:41 PM
And gandhi had a big hand in keeping him away from lime light, gandhi wanted his own name in History books (by Hook or By crook). he new that there is no need for violent struggle by his party since others were doing the dirty work for him. It was likes of SUbash Chander BOse,Bhaghat Singh,RajGuru,Sardar Patal,Udham Singh and many more to name but few who actually rocked the Cont:-
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 04:38 PM
Gaurav, What exactly you want to say.? Pseudo Nationalist what it means to you? Was Bose not a freedom fighter?
Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by gaurav shukla on Nov 30, 2009 04:43 PM
Pseudo nationalists = bjp, rss and all that. Whatever they like has to be wrong, thus SC Bose was 'wrong'. If you don't agree with me = Congress is wrong.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 04:54 PM
RSS as pseudo nationalist just because they supported Hindus? Read the article completely they mentioned Hindu militant-RSS because they cared for Hindu refugees. SO who should have cared for them? What a way to criticize RSS because they helped refugee they are militant.
Re: Re: BOSE
by Z X on Nov 30, 2009 04:42 PM
It was Netaji's actions and determination that british govt became afraid & jittery during the WWII to keep India that they decided to grant independence, not because of spineless leaders like Gandhi Gandhi & Nehru.
Re: Re: BOSE
by Sheetal Kaur on Nov 30, 2009 04:41 PM
And gandhi had a big hand in keeping him away from lime light, gandhi wanted his own name in History books (by Hook or By crook). he new that there is no need for violent struggle by his party since others were doing the dirty work for him. It was likes of SUbash Chander BOse,Bhaghat Singh,RajGuru,Sardar Patal,Udham Singh and many more to name but few who actually rocked the Cont:-
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by harry madaan on Nov 30, 2009 05:08 PM
Check the bhagat singh's inpiration, You guys wud able to know more about unsung hero's of india and who were later followed by Gandhi...They were knows as Kooka Sikh's....Check their history and you would able to know the most intense freedom movement started by them long back in punjab..Later gandhi used that same thing as his biggest weapon.He was a crap for sure..no doubts !!!
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by Sheetal Kaur on Nov 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Foundations of The British rule. Gandhi was not alone, AND HE WAS NO MAHATAMA EITHER. TO BE A MAHATMA ONE HAVE TO REACH THE HEIGHTS SUCH AS THE GAUTAMA BUDDHA. IF ONE BRITISH CALLED HIM A MAHATMA THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS. GANDHI WAS JUST AN ADVANTAGIST, BEING TRAIND IN LAW HE COULD REASO WITHIN HIMSELF WHICH WAS WAS BEST SUITABLE FOR HIM AND NOT OTHERS THAT WILL KEEP HIM IN LIMELIGHT.
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by JOYDEEP BHATTACHARYA on Nov 30, 2009 04:57 PM
Superb Said, Sheetal -"he new that there is no need for violent struggle by his party since others were doing the dirty work for him. ". Salute to your thaught !
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by JOYDEEP BHATTACHARYA on Nov 30, 2009 04:57 PM
Superb Said, Sheetal -"he new that there is no need for violent struggle by his party since others were doing the dirty work for him. ". Salute to your thaught !
Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 04:50 PM
Sheetal, gandhi never had any selfish interest in Independence, even if you see movie Bose:The Forgotten Hero. Bose will tell that in 1942 during quit India movement he should have been in India rather than outside. But don't forget that Gandhi was always advised by Nehru and he believed Nehru above others because of his socialism style of functioning and ideology. SO real culprit to keep Bose outside India is Nehru even after Independence Nehru should have tried to bring him back as he was PM. Only biggest mistake Sardar did is he never wrote any auto biography so we cant say anything about him that what was running in his mind whether Sardar supported Bose or Not?Sardar should have maintained at least a personnel dairy that also he did not.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by JOYDEEP BHATTACHARYA on Nov 30, 2009 05:09 PM
Don't behave like a child, jaykumar. What Sardar will write, do our countymen need to believe? and FYI - Sardar was one of the highest opponent of Netaji. he orderred not to take a single INA person in free Indian Army. No photo of Netaji should be there in indian army barack. Go and search, you will get evidence. And if Gandhiji was guided by Nehru, then really tragic!! who is the leader sir? and socialism??- netaji was far better alligned to socialism than Nehru. nehru was compromised person, so got support of Tata, birla's backing.Netaji remained un compromised throughout his life, that's wrong? that's political immaturity, you will say?? And last one- can u recall Pattavi sita ramaiya...who faught againt Subhas, as Gandhi's candidate, he was one of the richest person of then Andhra.Visit any Andhra bank, you will find their founder's photo. So the equation is not so tough to understand right?!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by JOYDEEP BHATTACHARYA on Nov 30, 2009 07:23 PM
Hei jaikumar, you got crazy...don't tell us, the WB people as lover of pakistan(/BD), don't dare to teach us indianness/nationalism. it's not Sardar, but SP Mukherjee, who bifurcated then Bengal presidency. And on that time, Sardar was no body to talk on Bengal issue, we only listened/admired to gandhi , apart from this grand old man, other leaders were child to our Bengali brand of leaders. We have shown the first path in every field.It's not vanity, remembering fact.Not to hurt any body else.any time, plz visit cellular jail in A&N island, there u wl find thousands of name who were from this pitty land-WB!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:16 PM
I never told that Bose is not a hero ofcourse he is. But I think WB people may be not happy with Sardar because he dragged WB into India which you people cant digest his victory.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by JOYDEEP BHATTACHARYA on Nov 30, 2009 07:27 PM
Don't lie jaykumar...if you see that now, then it's due to personal respect, any colonel can keep. But on an average, his photo is not allowed(encouraged)to be displayed.Alas!! he could have been the greatest example of modern Indian Warrior after ranapratap, shibaji, etc...
Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 05:08 PM
Friend, it seems the meaning of Mahatma is not understodd. Reply to my query:- Was Gandi a great Atma? I mean MAHATMA and do you feel by walking it earns independence for a country? Then every dominated country would have done the same :-). Even the Afgans and Pakistanis should start wlaking to earn a peace for their country :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by ACHINTA ROY on Nov 30, 2009 05:03 PM
Jaykumar, I am telling you, Sardar issued instructions to his partymen to remove the pictures and names(nam-o-nishan)of Subhasji from everywhere possible.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by jaykumar j on Nov 30, 2009 05:08 PM
Achinta, I read several books on Sardar by different authors but no one mentioned what you are commenting. In fact Sardar kept condition before British that if we support you during WW-2 we must get freedom but it was Nehru's influential on Gandhi both didn't accepted Sardar's condition. If Sardar can put condition then obvious that he was very much aware of Bose Army men's active in India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 05:11 PM
So you are now confused. Better sing for real heroes and dump all those heroes for whom we are singing now. This would only make a difference to bring India up. We ourselves are betrayers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOSE
by ACHINTA ROY on Nov 30, 2009 05:19 PM
Jaykumar, do not misunderstand. I respect Sardar the iron man. He is a true leader unlike the other hyprocrits as indicated by you. Sardar advised one hypocrit to capture and free Goa, the hypocrit refused and delayed till 1962(?).Sardar had a dogma and disliked Subhas. I shall give you the facts later. Please let me have your email.
