Re: The best Prime Minister
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 09:17 PM
Nehruji's biggest contribution to the people of India was his thrust on education and his investment in building world class institutions of learning in India
That alone keeps us years ahead of neighbors like Pakistan
Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by ambuj mehra on Dec 01, 2009 02:38 AM
Nehruji's biggest contribution to the people of India was his thrust on education and his investment in building world class institutions of learning in India
That alone keeps us years ahead of neighbors like Pakistan
You need to study some basic history, PPL LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK.
Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Lakshminarayana on Nov 30, 2009 10:05 PM
Neighbors like Pakistan? I wish you have named better nations for comparison.
Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 10:08 PM
we were cut out of the same land in 1947 ... so the comparison is perfectly valid
Re: Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Lakshminarayana on Nov 30, 2009 10:10 PM
You make an argument for comparing with Pakistan. No wonder you are complacent!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 10:14 PM
not complacent ...or I would be a BJP supporter who backed out of their own nuclear deal
we should look ahead and aim for the sky, but until we get there, comparing with those who were alongside us in 1947 and are left far far behind is fair.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Lakshminarayana on Nov 30, 2009 10:18 PM
Never mind. Continue comparing with Pakistan and feel good about it. :)
Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by ACHINTA ROY on Nov 30, 2009 09:46 PM
A hypocrit like loan shark has no right to comment. He is not even ready to disclose his name and his race.
Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 10:04 PM
what's in a name ... how does guarding my privacy on the net and protecting my family from the invasion of privacy of any concern to you?
Re: Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by ACHINTA ROY on Nov 30, 2009 10:12 PM
You r a hypocrit, coward and a person who suffers from identity crisis.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best Prime Minister
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 10:15 PM
spare the insult, put some logic in your argument ... unless insult is all you've got
anyone can throw insults .. doesn't need any special talent ... do you have any?
It is beyond doubt that Subhas Chandra Bose was one of the most popular and influential political leaders of India. Perhaps, he was the only one Indian leader during the Gandhi era who not only showed a way different from that of Gandhi, but also challenged Gandhi and partly succeeded - we should not forget that in 1939 in the Tripuri Session of Indian National Congress, Subhas defeated the Gandhi-sponsored candidate - Pattavi Sitaramaiya. It is necessary to add that Subhas was the firts to envisage the Five Year Plans after freedom, which was translated into action by Jawaharlal Nehru. Indeed, there is absolutely no doubt that the entire nation stood by this great national hero during the INA campaign. Anyone having the slightest knowledge about the history of INA campaign in India and abroad, and about the INA trial, would know how Subhas had become the undisputed leader of the Indians.
Having said this, it is also important to underline the fact that Subhas committed a grave error of judgement when he entered into deals with Germany and Japan - the two forces which stood for fascism in two different parts of the world. With this, he lost a substantial part of his popularity. For many educated modern Indians, Subhas evokes a mixed feeling - while no one can deny his fierce courage, astute planning and unparallel patriotism, one is bewildered to learn that he actually befriended Hitler - the enemy of human civilisation! It is sad that his death still remains a mystery!
Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by srik on Nov 30, 2009 08:45 PM
You should understand that Many of the Indian soldiers were captured by the germans and Japaneese, If it was not Subhas negotiating with Hitler about the real intent of Indians fighting in the war, ie we were promised Independence and have nothing against Germany, our soldiers would not have been freed. Btw, Hitler as very proud of his "Aryan" blood incidently which most of (North) Indians belong to. Ghandhi and Nehru intentionally haven't shown much efforts to find Subhash or bring his memorabilia to India as they knew that he will become a bigger hero than they themselves were. as they say "The brighter the light the darker the shadows", every one has their darker side.
Re: Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 08:50 PM
I appreciate your comment.
I also think that Nehru considered Subhas as his enemy and might have shown some amount of intentional lethargy in finding out the true fact about Subhas.
However, I also feel that India could have been worse off under Subhas than under Nehru. Nehru had a high belief in parliamentary democracy, for which Subhas did not have much respect.
But, that does not suggest that I do not respect Subhas as a leader who had a fairy-tale impact upon the Indians - both in India and abroad.
Re: Re: Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by Sanjay on Nov 30, 2009 09:20 PM
when Nehru have belief in Democracy? the joker made the most corrupt fascist state on earth. Rigged election bought votes, and swiss bank accounts. He was a backward and all the world knows it. He owned the Congress party partitioned India did the bidding of his lover Eden Mount batten and was complete stooge who could not fire one babus who worked and swore loyalty to the British.
He continued the Babus raj system in which today every Indian runs from this country.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 PM
BJP wallahs have yet to recover from the loss ... it takes them 5 years to recover and then voters reject them again
Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by Abhishek Chakrabarti on Dec 01, 2009 01:05 AM
What was the wrong actually done in befriending Hitler,Mussolini or Tojo?The doctrine that during war the enemy's enemy is the best friend dates back to Chankya!Speaking of the "enemy of human civilisation"was Hitler actually any worse when compaired to Stalin or Mao or Trueman or even the great Churchill?Most of the atrocities of Hitler have been highly exaggerated by the British & US media to hide their own atrocities.In 1943 we lost nearly 6 lakh people in Bengal due to a famine created by the British to feed foreign soldiers stationed in India.How many countries who participated in the real war had to pay such a price?And you still maintain that the British were saints?And if you concede that the British were our greatest enemy then you cannot help but to support Netaji Subhas for his wonderful idea of taking help of the Axis powers to dethrone them.Moreover he acted as a time when no struggle was possible from within the country.The fact that his death still remains a mystery is due to the attitude of successive Indian Governments who probably fear that many of the popular leaders may be busted if the truth comes out.
Re: Re: Subhas Chandra Bose
by Sanjay on Dec 01, 2009 07:41 PM
you idiot it was not 6 lakhs but 3.5 million people some estimates go as high as 5 million dided in Bengal Famine all man made By the British and Indian Babus to squash nationalism and prevent Indian National army from conquering India.
In mental coolie raj we expect them to further lower the ruthlessness of Britis. "The anthropology department of calcutta university puts the estimate at three and half million the british 1.5 million and unofficially it was 5 million according to book Indian national Movement JP Suda page 302. Now when the British say they killesd so much and educayed say more why doo water down the barbarism committed by the most barbaric power the British.
Re: Bose & Boss
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:11 PM
Ya Ojama, we know you are the son of Osama, so what more is expected out of you. Dont just write bull shit to get comments on your topic.
Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:24 PM
Correct and modern day education is a viel of politics especially for modern day history, with graet toppings with our corrupted leaders. Isnt it time that pure history is brought in front?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:37 PM
"this bong" in the original post in not derogatory .. just a way to reference him ... if I refer to advani as an octogenarian it does not automatically mean that I am against him because of his age
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 08:42 PM
Loan Shark, I hope you are able to distinguish between references to age and references to province!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 09:08 PM
salesjb, I am not a raj thakarey fan .. I unite people ... thakarae is a divider
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by salesjb on Nov 30, 2009 08:53 PM
Loan Shark rajjjj thhhaakkrraay and you have same mentality. divide indian. Pls change your mentality or be a raaaajjjjj follower
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bose & Boss
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 09:12 PM
Loan Shark, please have a preliminary lesson in how the derogatory racial words developed in Indian English, before concluding on what is derogatory or what is not!
You may start with the supplementary on Indian English published by the Oxford University Press in 1999, edited by Prof Indira Chowdhury of Jadavpur University.
(THough I do not know whether you are actually aware of the fame and credibility of the names above!!)
no one conjures up the passion and nationalism tht images of netaji inspire in us... except perhaps few gentlemen like bhagat singh, sukhdev, veer savarkar etc.... no one else throughout the length and breadth of the british empire had the balls 2 march an army against the british and defeat them.. and tht the germans ( a first rate power at tht time) supported him, speaks vloumes about his ability... even europe believed tht he was the only man capable of beating the british.. had he lived, he wud hv surely saved us from this nehru-gandhi non sense.
Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than gandhi
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 07:35 PM
Gandhiji was greater than Netaji
Germans and Japanese supported Netaji because they were using him to fight a war against the allies ... the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese lost the war and Hitler committed suicide
Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than gandhi
by laxmikanta gouda on Nov 30, 2009 08:41 PM
Mr. Gandhi agreed to British Govt. that Indian soldeirs would fight against Germans and Japanies on behave of british if later provide complete freedom to former. British betrayed and many indian soldeirs lost their life for no reason. India had a lack of good leaders and Gandhi didn't allow others to grow in leadership.
Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than gan
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:47 PM
but India did get freedom ... on the other hand Netaji fought against the brits and joined Nazi Germany and Japan
Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than
by Sanjay on Nov 30, 2009 09:28 PM
It showed the British that there were considerable discontent that Bose could raise an army with support of Germans. Indians knew how to fight the British they were not all cowards.
Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than gandhi
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:15 PM
Were you fighting with him at that time? Your comments are related to all replies as you want to rverert the mind of Indians from S C Bose to the actual traitors of India. Keep on trying buddy, else you perish with your vociferous prpaganda what Nehru and Gandhi did.
Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater than
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:30 PM
Leaving apart Sardar Patel and Jayprakash Narayan, would you be please be benevolent to send us the details about Nehru and Gandhis contribution towards, freedom movement?
1. Did Gandhis walk earn a freedom movement and his ahimsa? 2. Partitioning India with Pakistan Bangladesh was Nehrus contribution.
Lastly why did India Govt. stopped the creamy film with Nehrus affair with Montbatten? So is there any doubt of under hand of Nehru with the Britishers?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:58 PM
Just a small example. Are people walking with Dandi in IRAQ, Afganistan and Pakistan to overcome their problems? Come to actual fact dear. Keep all your comments at bay before commenting.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:40 PM
Ha ha ha. Correct and their goes your complete enthusastic writing for other peoples comment too. Proof can never be hidden. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh was sold :-) Acept facts dear :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:33 PM
1. Yes, Gandhiji's path of non-violence and ahimsa forced Brits to acknowledge their movement as a freedom struggle and not an act of terrorism
2. Partition was a blessing ... it would be a disaster to drag the baggage of Pakistan all these years
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji among the greatest, certainly greater
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:34 PM
what happened between Nehru and Lady mountbatten was a private affair between consenting adults ... you and I have no business to throw darts at them and vicariously enjoy those passionate moments
if not the whole, maximum the credit goes to netaji in freedom fighting movements. Gandhiji was a key player in bringing freedom. we can't also forget bhagat singh / Rashbehari bose / V savarkar / Damodar Savarkar / B G Tilak / Khshudiram Bose / Prafulla Chaki / Vinay, Badal, Dinesh / Masterda Surya sen / Ms Matangini Hazra / Ashutosh Mukherjee / Syamaprasad Mukherjee / Jatindranath Mukherjee / Mangal Pandey to name a few.
Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 07:01 PM
he was not a leader, just another one ... leader of the azadhindfauj, but not of India's freedom struggle
Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 08:15 PM
Loan Shark, please do not forget that he was elected the President of the Congress by defeating the Gandhi-sponsored candidate.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:51 PM
dude, I have not denied Bose's greatness. I have said "netaji was one of the several freedom fighters"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Nut on Nov 30, 2009 08:19 PM
The guys writing against S C Bose seems to have never graduated and never seemed to have learnt History. They might be the sons of our rich politicians and passed by just bribing. So its worthless to comment on their self pro-claimed correct decisions.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 08:29 PM
ok, he won ... fine but he didn't have the guts to fight the influence of Gandhiji in the party and so he quit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 08:40 PM
Loan Shark, You are right. Subhas should be criticised for quitting Congress while he was the President. I (and some others like me) criticise him for this. We also criticise his decision to endorse the friendship of Hitler. But, it is also true that he had magical influence on the Indians. The history of the INA trials proves it - when the entire nation opposed and blocked the British attempt to punish the INA soldiers. And, as you can see, even the US intelligence agency was of the opinion that Subhas could have been India's undisputed leader if he would return.
My friend, I too believe that Gandhi was the greatest Indian leader of all times. But that does not mean that we should deny others' greatness.
Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by jayanta mukharjee on Nov 30, 2009 07:06 PM
my frnd interpret the word netaji properly, whole world respect him as netaji means leader. I'm not denying ur fact
Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by jayanta mukharjee on Nov 30, 2009 07:05 PM
my frnd interpret the word netaji properly, whole world respect him as netaji means leader. I'm not denying ur fact
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: netaji - the 'hero'
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 08:36 PM
Loan Shark, I do not sing in praise of Subhas, because I am one of his critical admirers - if you know what that means.
And, please rise beyonf this Bong-Bihari-Punjabi mentality!
if not the whole, maximum the credit goes to netaji in freedom fighting movements. Gandhiji was a key player in bringing freedom. we can't also forget bhagat singh / Rashbehari bose / V savarkar / Damodar Savarkar / B G Tilak / Khshudiram Bose / Prafulla Chaki / Vinay, Badal, Dinesh / Masterda Surya sen / Ms Matangini Hazra / Ashutosh Mukherjee / Syamaprasad Mukherjee / Jatindranath Mukherjee / Mangal Pandey to name a few.
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Re: biggest lie
by patriot on Nov 30, 2009 06:07 PM
whether arya race is true or not, We, North indians think we are superior based on this so called non-existent race. So as long as that superiority complex exist then arya image remains.
How do you see commonality between languages like Sanskrit and German but not between Sanskrit and south indian languages which are closer in proximity. I think that points to the fact that aryan race existed.
Re: Re: Re: biggest lie
by patriot on Nov 30, 2009 06:18 PM
so sanskrit influenced German more than it influenced south indian languages? isnt that strange. only way that is possible is that german and sanskrit came from somewhere in the middle between germany and india.
Re: Re: Re: biggest lie
by yeda peda on Nov 30, 2009 06:19 PM
you weaklings are talkign shit..there is no ling between german and sanskrit..fake ..theorey..actually germans comes from galliatic..and german is linked to english..now there is no link between english and sanskrit..so stop this nonsense.you fools
Re: Re: Re: Re: biggest lie
by Haramohan Roy on Nov 30, 2009 09:08 PM
Yeda Peda (or whatever your name is) - please have a little knowledge of comparative philology. If you knew the famous Grimm's Law, you could have seen a host of similarities between Sanskrit and English, both of which belong to the Indo-European group of languages. In fact, most modern Indian languages, and languages like English, French, Latin or German etc have a common root in the Primitive Aryan language. This is a preliminary lesson in comparative Philology and Linguistics.
Re: Re: Re: Re: biggest lie
by patriot on Nov 30, 2009 06:23 PM
go speak to the top sanskrit professors in india and all will talk about the link between german and sanskrit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: biggest lie
by Baba on Dec 04, 2009 04:09 AM
Patriot, go first give answers to my arguments on the Ladakh news page, if u have b@lls...
The concept of partition is most widely misinterpreted. The idea of extremism and a seperate partition started by the foundation of Aligarh University which itself was founded on basis of competiton with Hnds of those times who were learned and close to the Britishers! Hnds were more learned and not militant!
Vicky Nanjappa! it is not easy to fool Indians of this age coz we are more into reading than u fundamentalist paid writers.
RSS wasnt against Mslms! Neither is it now! If it was than the Shankaracharya wouldnt recite "La Ila InAllah" to a crowd of 50000 Mslms.
So CONGRESS writers, we Indians plead u to stop DIVIDING INDIANS!!!!! STOP!!!!!! Vicky Nanjapaa is himself a Xtian! See the idea behind all attacks on India in terrorism and media are from Xtians and the major basis is to create a fight between H and M.
Stop it! for GOD is watching! Dont divide Hnds and Mslms.
Bose's army had all communties involved and thus he couldnt have been anti mslm as your article suggests!
We can see now why Congress is converting so many Indians to Xtianity! Gr8 politics!
Shame on south indians for leaving their original faith! neither hell nor heaven for you.
Re: Congress uses Media to divide again!
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 06:16 PM
Congress did not divide H1ndus or Indians, BJP did. BJP/RSS is certainly against mus1ims ... no doubt about it and check how BJP/RSS supporters on this board call names at msl1ms
Partition was a good thing to happen. Imagine the baggage of Pakistan to drag for all these years.
Bose's survival was a rumor
Congress is not converting anyone into Chr1st1an1ty, the mi1ssionar1es are doing and there is freedom of religion guaranteed by the constitution
Re: Re: Congress uses Media to divide again!
by sachchidanand dhar on Nov 30, 2009 06:34 PM
Kindly search for "Fatima Prophesies", "The Third Prophesy of Fatima', "The Third Secret of Fatima" on the internet. It says that after 1960-the Church is under control of Devil(Satan, Lucifer). The written document is at Vatican and kept as a secret by Popes. Fatima is in Portugal. Revelations were made by Mother Mary in 1917. First two prophesies about 2 world wars and events of Russia- have already come true. THIRD SECRET IS IS NOT TOLD TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD BY VATICAN> Best to keep away from Church.
Re: Re: Re: Congress uses Media to divide again!
by Loan Shark on Nov 30, 2009 06:55 PM
just opinions and conspiracy theories that haven't been substantiated
