Re: 'People just don't care about 26/11'
by Jai Babu on Nov 21, 2009 11:03 AM
JGN-common citizens can do a lot. They can be vigilant. They can ensure that rabid fanatics of any re1igion do not make inroads into their community 0r locality. Any suspicious activity could be reported to the authorities
Re: 'People just don't care about 26/11'
by Manu Verma on Nov 20, 2009 09:45 AM
You are so much right JGN. I was a bit angry with ratan Tata when he said after 26/11 they will hire this & that for security. He should have said it is the government's responsibility to protect us. He should have blasted the govt., even after so many blasts earlier, 26/11 could happen so easily.
Re: Re: 'People just don't care about 26/11'
by Rakesh Dandekar on Nov 20, 2009 10:03 AM
Mr. Verma this is not Ratan Tata Blood to critize government or any political party. He is a business man and he know how to make business. This is not his duty to wake government this is oposition leaders duty to wake up government but in our country no oposition party to hang the bell to government every one including ruling, opposition, are same. some the parties like MNS are egos and no eithis hence we the common people have to suffer such type of situation. See yesterdays matter at Delhi government wake up of opposition about sugar cane price. Mr. Sharad Pawar Agricultural minister has suggested exclusive benefit to western maharashtra and left with out states. This type of opposition should be there then only india can imparove and common man will survive peacefully.
Re: RE:26/11 ??
by Sheetal Kaur on Nov 20, 2009 04:01 AM
Why, peopel like you sunil sirohi always look for profit in others misery. What will a national holiday serve. You are lucky that you was not involved in the 26/11 incident§. THANK GOD FOR THAT AND YOU ARE ALIVE AND WELL. ONLY A FOOL WILL THINK LIKE YOU DO. JUST KEEP IN MIND IT COULD BE YOU NEXT,WHO KNOWS WHAT FATE HAVE IN FOR YOU.
Re: Re: RE:26/11 ??
by Prasath K on Nov 20, 2009 08:42 AM
Sunil & Milind,
Bh8ndch0d0n,u gotta understand first that u r Indians first.U were bormn on this soil.Had it not been for India,u wud have been rotting in some casino is US.Don't come back and poke your a55 here again.Go back and get urself scr8wed by the Americans who give u holidays.
That is all. All over the country people go on with their lives, without making a fuss.
In Mumbai too, everyone continued.
Must admit, the Govt exercised great restraint under the circumstances. Our two decades of economic hard work would have gone down the drain if we had taken the bait of war.
And the people supported the Govt too. And gave their verdict too.
Things could have been much much worse. Preparations for WW3 were going on track with Israel attacking Gaza over one single Gilad Shalit.
And Georgia destroying Ossetia because of Sakaashvili.
Georgians now see the real nature of the operation, without the blur of Russian tanks which made them falsely loyal to Sakaashvili.
Then Obama spoke, rather than bombed.
And the Polish missile defence thing got postponed.
Meanwhile two nuke submarines collided with each other for the thrills of it.
Whatever Dubya may say, a low intensity WW3 was quite near. Instead Iraq and Afghanistan continue.
But of course, guns must sell !!
Now China has a stockpile of old weaponry that they want to dump on some country and make some quick bucks.
Re: we just got a taste of Punjab, Jammu Kashmir, Assam
by Happy Indian on Nov 20, 2009 12:52 AM
Why should we go for war. Those Pakistanis are killing among themselves.
Re: Ofcourse they don't
by jay b on Nov 20, 2009 04:10 AM
Last Lok sabha elections and recent state elections have been rigged using EVMs hacked by the manufacturers on orders of the Jholer EC Navin Chawla and his Congress masters.
The EVM software can be easily rigged again in the future and that is the precise reason many Western and South American nations are either reverting back to paper ballot OR having dual system of independently verified EVMs(by all party candidates) and printed Paper ballot for verification.
But who has the guts to go against the mighty and manipulative Congress who is bent upon going back to the 70s style Raj. Some of the major media channels are already bought over by them using money power and rest are ignorant .
It will require some really daring journalism to expose this and to prevent this in the future till then all the best to other non congressi parties in the opposition (since they will never get elected in a signifcant manner)
Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by sunil sirohi on Nov 20, 2009 12:56 AM
-At least BJP cares for its people, that too in foreign land. -What about Congress goons?In their own land 100s of Indians were killed.Shame on congress, couldn't handle the situatuion. -By the way, is Rahul connection the real Bhat or Indian investigators are making Rahul Bhatt a scape goat for congressi Rahul?? Guess!
Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Indian on Nov 19, 2009 10:57 PM
FYI...the whole election process in india is questionable. Who can assure the authenticity of the EVM ?
Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by jayson moses on Nov 19, 2009 10:59 PM
Why can't someone prove EVM's are wrong. Election commission had made to offer to prove.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Ghirar Delli on Nov 20, 2009 12:42 AM
It is the EC's job to demonstrate that the system is foolproof every step of the way, not the voters' job to prove fraud. There are any number of ways India's EVM system, which are now essentially "black box"es (with proprietary code supposedly known only to ECIL/Hyderabad and BEL/Bangalore), can be subverted.
A simple possibility is this: once the order of the candidates is known, or is pre-engineered somehow, simple code that is programmed to switch votes at a certain periodicity to a candidate at a certain position in the order could be put into the EVMs could be used to tilt the race in that candidate's favor. It only takes few crooks in the right places to rig the EVMs cleverly and do so in manner not to get caught.
The proprietary nature of the system itself raises many questions of legality and constitutionality, and ECIL tries to hide behind the proprietariness, and recently even threatened, preposterously, some EVM-challengers with lawsuits when they wanted to pry open up the EVMs to show how they could be rigged. How can a proof be given without opening the EVMS?? See the sinister game being played?
Pls see the following solid analysis: Can EVMs subvert elections? full post, July 3, 2009, by Rajiv Srinivasan, http://tinyurl.com/evm-analysis
The Indian supreme court should immediately ban the current EVM-based system and bring back paper ballots, until a modern foolproof system can be designed and implemented.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Rakesh Dandekar on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 AM
Mr. jayson there is no guts to indian people. they know only critize on the basis of barking of oposition leaders. do not read all this nonsence comments. people should know first and then prove it. On the basis of their comments how maharashtra election elect 90 candidate of BJP/SS and 13 from MNS and 30 from independent and 10 fro rebelles. this all should be converted into one party that congress not even NCP. is there any answers to the commenters. all the commenters and readers please reply.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Manoj K on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 PM
Yes and once a company was about to prove this. Ang guess what happened? Election suddenly stopped that company to go further. If this is the state of affair then why anyone will trust these EVMs.
Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Loan Shark on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 PM
keep crying about the EVM when BJP leadership iteself has no claim on their being defective
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by JGN on Nov 20, 2009 09:46 AM
Looney, it is not the question of just one party. Even congiii leader Gulam Nabi Azad was crying foul over EVMs after they lost in Orissa during the last election.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ofcourse they don't
by Ghirar Delli on Nov 20, 2009 01:10 AM
India's economic performance is dropping in many key ways. eg, it's share of world's BPO market has fallen from 80% in 2004 to 40% now. Total trade deficit, outstanding payments due, trade deficit with China have all ballooned. Mining companies are running amok, and India is shipping off minerals to China and other countries, which may come back to haunt India for decades to come.
On the cultural side, predatory missionaries and running rampant, doing fraudulent conversions like drunken sailors, and creating rifts that needn't exist. Jihadi groups seems to be gaining hold. India's weak handling of the Mumbai attack resulted in Saeed roaming free and Kasab demanding Biryani and what not. Not even rogue Kasab takes India seriously, forget about weakling nations like Bangladesh, Pakistan, and much less bullies like China and the OIC.
Pakistan managed to successfully inject Kashmir issue into the debate in the aftermath of the Mumbai 2008 attack, instead of being taken to the butcher block for carrying out the heinous attack. In the year since, India's hand has been badly weakened on the Kashmir issue.
They have failed to come out with a strong and compelling stance on climate change, and failed in the propaganda game, where China succeeded, despite building coal plants by the dozens, and polluting at over 4 times India's per-capita rate of CO2 production, and leading the world in total emissions. India floundered badly.
The INC has been a disaster on many crucial fronts.
to the "maharashtrians" who complain... grow some balls and start your own business instead of whining about others' success in mumbai... non-maharashtrians are not hte reason you are falling behind... it is your own inability to get out of your comfort zone and fight on their turf... grow up or else you guys deserve what you are getting
Re: to the ''maharashtrians''
by Loan Shark on Nov 19, 2009 10:49 PM
maharashtrians were made for low paying state govt jobs ... fits their lazy and corrupt demeanor
Re: Re: to the ''maharashtrians''
by sledge on Nov 20, 2009 09:22 AM
are you saying non-maharashtrian's are not lazy or corrupt? i thought your previous reply made some sense but this it ridiculous. how do you think non-maharashtrians became rich?.. how many scams have u seen in your life.. and how many of them have been maharashrian? and believe me. i've known non-maharashtrians all my life.. they're no hands on either.. so perhaps it is time for you to get back to your basics and return to the 21st century.. or perhaps reality even...
Re: Re: to the ''maharashtrians''
by None None on Nov 19, 2009 10:54 PM
I have been reading message posts in rediff since a long time and for somer reason I thought you were amongst the sensible ppl around. But it doesn't look like that. Like most others here you too are bigoted, prejudiced and divisive. God help my nation !!
Re: Re: Re: to the ''maharashtrians''
by jayson moses on Nov 19, 2009 10:58 PM
Loan Shark is a sensible guy. Its a fustration and anger on MNS made a slip.
Re: Re: Re: Re: to the ''maharashtrians''
by JGN on Nov 20, 2009 09:47 AM
hahahahahha!!! Then why the congiiiis were sponsoring MNS? What action has been taken against Raj Thackeray by the Congiii govt at the Centre and also in the State of Maharashtra after his supporters attacked migrant labours from UP and Bihar??
it is heart-wrenching to hear the apathy of the officials during time of crisis... mumbai is nothing but a human sweatshop where money is spent only on those who already have it aplenty and the poor are left to languish... sorry mumbai.. you have gone far ahead and i don't think i can (or even want to) stay with you. adios! To the 4 people in the article and thousands of others who are suffering due to it.. my heartfelt sympathy. I hope Kasab and his controllers meet the most horrible death. Democracy in India is falling apart due to political / judicial bureaucracy... Army is the only remaining who can make a change by opposing the current administration... They must use force to whip the current government into obedience..
Re: i wish i could call myself a mumbaikar
by Loan Shark on Nov 19, 2009 10:50 PM
good riddance, you pessimist ... India is a ciivilized society ... military rule is for pakistan ... our generals take orders from a civilian govt.
Re: i wish i could call myself a mumbaikar
by None None on Nov 19, 2009 10:58 PM
I'm sure you must be following the happenings in Pakistan. You want the Army to take over? Be ready to give up your rights forever. Once the army takes over, you will have only Musharraf, zia-ul-haq etc. to show as leaders. Dont expect them to return governance to civilain rule of their own accord.
They do not care abt 26/11, thats why these kind of incidents happen repeatedly in India.
in US, even after 8 years after 9/11, everybody takes it very seriously and remembers like it happened just yesterday. Thats why nothing has happened in US since 9/11.
In a country where people are so indifferent and still have faith in failed Govt whom they do not punish, things will never improve.
Re: Thats why disastors like 26/11 happen
by None None on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 PM
While I respect your sentiment, but its easy to blame others and say things will never change. What have you done to change things? Are you yourself very compassionate about others? Until someone does not wave wads of $$, I guess you will prefer to be indifferent too. I'm not critisizing you. I am in the same league. We all are. Humans are selfish by nature. Individually they suck. You are comparing two disparate socities US and India. For one, the US has been in existence for over 2 or 3 centuries. We are still very young, and still rocking. There are several issues to be addressed. Democracy is a slow process, but it works !!! We are the living proof.
Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by None None on Nov 19, 2009 11:28 PM
Look at all of you people. One bloody shithead provokes you, and you all are ready to take up arms. This mr. "bean", his statements clearly are meant to inflame public opinion and you are happily taking the bait. I think the best way to tackle any divisive posts here is to just ignore them.
Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by Jai Hind on Nov 19, 2009 08:34 PM
If those non-marathas (NSG and Army) were not to come to your state to kill those terrorist, you would be dead by now. non of your marathi politicians were seen that day. Please keep that non-marathi gyan to yourself
Re: Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by bean on Nov 19, 2009 08:36 PM
there shud be a rule in maharashtra of VISA all non marathis shud be given 15days visa with a big deposit amount this junks are spoiling maharashtra bloody fools.
Re: Re: Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by Aryan on Nov 19, 2009 08:54 PM
what is mumbai without gujaratis, and marwaris. Ans: a big garbage can....
Re: Re: Re: Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by Manoj K on Nov 19, 2009 10:16 PM
better to say what is Bombay with only Marathi people!! filthy and stinking garbage dump
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by againstpseudos on Nov 20, 2009 09:55 AM
But you still like to come and smell that filth. however much you are kicked on your behind.
Re: Re: Re: remove non marathas from maharashtra
by laxmikanta gouda on Nov 19, 2009 09:00 PM
been you sounds like a wroten bean, which should be thrown away to garbage.
