Re: BMMA
by ahmed mohiuddin on Nov 16, 2009 09:33 AM
Yes, your attitude will always be like this, all the best, no matter what we do, if we even present our head on a platter you wont be happy, so burn in your anger.
Re: Re: BMMA
by vandematram on Nov 16, 2009 10:05 AM
Ahmed , it is your attitude , which Force you to think only n Only about Mozlim.. how many times Mozlims have discussed about Poverty in India, how many times they have discussed about Starvation in Orisaa,how many times they have opposed Corruption in Govt sector... Not even a single time.. they are Just concerned about Madarsaaa,Waqf Borad and Sharia...Thats It.. Why they blame every time Hindoos for every thing.. they have 10-15 Kids in one family and then blame BJP ?? what a pitty
Re: Re: Re: BMMA
by ahmed mohiuddin on Nov 16, 2009 01:58 PM
Dont try to hide your intentions behind all these false agenda, every one knows ground reality, who is not working for the upliftment of poor, every one is working at there level, if you believe by making one community scapegoat it will end, I am really sorry to say it will not. I hope you have never been to hyderabad, at least if you had a muslim neighbor or friend you might have understood, but I know all this explanation is waste of time.
Re: BMMA Double Standared
by ahmed mohiuddin on Nov 16, 2009 09:34 AM
Yes, your attitude will always be like this, all the best, no matter what we do, if we even present our head on a platter you wont be happy, so burn in your anger.
Hi My Name is Ahmed, by reading this article and all the comments, they only reflect one thing that we still have to go a long way and work on our areas of improvement. Its true glory comes with guts; at the end of the day what does matters is numbers. So my dear brother and sisters please don't rely on anyone except God, work hard to achieve your goals uplift yourself and other. We cannot afford to spend millions of dollars because we don’t have and the people who have will not spend for a noble cause, at least we can educate our brothers & sisters around us coz journey of thousand miles starts with single step. If you respect yourself and want others to respect you, then you have to command respect not demand. Allah never changes the situation of a community until and unless they try it. We are neither beggars nor the oppressors; we don’t have to prove it others we have to prove it our self. Don’t bother about what other will think or what others will say coz dogs always bark at an elephant, there will be always someone to criticize you or stop you. The question is are we willing to leave this all behind and seriously, religiously work towards our growth, there are many fellow Muslims and citizens who don’t even have proper food to eat, I am not asking you leave your food. Don’t feed them just teach them how to catch fish so they can survive, What all I am asking is please for God sake stop begging and start working, educate every single individual
Re: Every one is equal under Law
by ahmed mohiuddin on Nov 16, 2009 09:12 AM
The question is are we willing to leave this all behind and seriously, religiously work towards our growth, there are many fellow Muslims and citizens who don’t even have proper food to eat, I am not asking you leave your food. Don’t feed them just teach them how to catch fish so they can survive, What all I am asking is please for God sake stop begging and start working, educate every single individual around you, whatever your area of expertise is educate them, help people around you, bring pride to our people. Coz there is no May be in reality, it is either yes or no. You cannot be neutral either you are brother or enemy. Make it a better place to live.
Re: Re: Every one is equal under Law
by Sameek Ghosh on Nov 16, 2009 09:56 AM
Well said, Ahmed. If you havenot then please study the "High-Madrasa" & "MadrasaBoard" of communist ruled Bengal. I am really happy to see such syllabus...at least the commies tried to do some thing objective and succeeded too...Yes, one can become engineer/doctor from a Madrasa system...its amazing to believe, but its true....
Re: Re: Re: Every one is equal under Law
by ahmed mohiuddin on Nov 16, 2009 02:01 PM
I dont know about the madarsa system in Bengal, but I am sure no one can become Engineer or doctor, What I know about it is they can simply do there Bsc or Bcom via that system and thats not wrong to complete your bachelors degree in literature, at least they capable of interacting with world.
D. Goel Pkl. afternoon, 3.10pm, Sunday, Nov15, 2009/ The self -conscious organisation of new-generation younger Muslim Ladies to take up social mobilization to press for the rights of Muslim and other oppressed segments of very Divisive Population is most certainly welcome, Any well -wisher of equal Human Rights shall watch their progressive struggle for liberating these minority women come forward as equal citizens of our Republic and do their bit to ensure justice for oppressed mankind. it is never possible to deliver justice to any down and discriminated group unless conscientization lifts its desires to struggle for its betterment.Family discrimination and ,educational backwardness and protection of their economic viablity a la Grameen Bank and Micro-credit Bangla Deshi Pioneer's Seminal work could be good illustration what needs to bedone to deliver independence to Bhartiya Muslim Nari like her sisters of other communities . Be they exploited Keralite Nuns or sold daughters of Yallamas in Karnatak , Garwhal Hills , and much of Andhra -Pradesh Adibasis. much remains to be done to liberate our sisters from all these fringes of dark exploitations. So Muslim Nari is very welcome to take the uptake.D. Goel
My heartiest congratulations to Zakia in her quest for the emancipation of women especially muslim, in India. I was in India touring during the muslim genocide in Gujrat in 2002 wand I came to know later from various media outlets in Britain that this genocide was state sponsored. As an Australian, it really hurts me to note that your federal government just ignored the killings by the stateat that time - I say state because the Chief Administrator Modi was behind this carnage - and no action has been taken so far. The man behind this is still there roaming the streets as a free man and neither the present Congress government has taken a stance to procecute this murderer. Is this the reason why there is so much hate and acrimony against Indians in Pakistan? One can only hope this 'andolan' by Zakia and her associates will eventually force your federal government to legislate to protect and give equlal rights and freedom as our women here in Australia enjoy. We love you Zakia and wish you the best of luck.
Re: Zakia Nizami
by vicky on Nov 15, 2009 09:46 AM
Dear Mr.Freitas
Please see your track recrod first.Do you allow minorities to live peacefully in australia.what about Indian students and the indian muslim doctor you accused of terrorism. What about aborginal people you massacred ? No doubt gujrat riots are shameful but our courts are competent enough to deal with them. Any special rights for minorities in australia like in India. We can provide schools but cannot force them to study. Donot shed crocodile tears
Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by Shravan on Nov 15, 2009 10:40 PM
these MuslimPeople when given food, shelter, clothing & all the basic need in INDIA then Also thisFakirs Will Beg for every thing these refugees are well setteled in INDIA, but want to destroy the Hindus &the Hindustan the HinduPeopleAre NotGetting AnyGood BenifitButThese FuCkirsNeedEveryThingFrom INDIA these is why Our Nation is going Down otherwise INDIA IS ALWAYS THE BEST!!!! JAI HIND...
Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by Gilliana Freitas on Nov 16, 2009 07:18 AM
Dear Vicky, I will concur with you that there are hate groups in Australia. This is a phenomenon in all countries of the world. But your Indian brothers and the Aboriginals and all ethnics have equal rights and discrimimation is never state sponsored. Be it known that my country is the most respected, charitable and most honoured country in the world. People born here are free. We are ONE NATION, tolerant and peaceful. This is a secular nation and religious groups are not tolerated. Every Indian knows this except you. Here the Aboriginals are never forced to work and are supported by the state but opportunities are galore and we all acknowledge that they are the original owners of the land. This is in our constitution. I know more about Indian religious culture than you because I am a sociologist, born in Illahabad of British parentage, did my primary education in Ghora Gully, Lahore (BI)and we left India in '47 after Partition, as it was too dangerous for us to live. I have documents and clippings left behind by my father related to the discrimination of muslims in India. Even after a century this stigma still shows on the face of India. Zakia Nizami is an Indian like you, born free, and freedom is her birthright. She is doig what all right thinking Hindus feel is right. There is no need to pretend Vicky child and hide behind your religious bias. Grow up and see the world. There are fifteen thousand Indians in line to make Australia their home. I welcome them.
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by devarajan k on Nov 16, 2009 08:17 AM
We know your tolerance and justice. In spite of the attacks on Indians going on for more than an year now , your govt has done nothing. In fact it seems they refuse to register cases of immigrant death it seems !! When the Indian counsel asked for the track details of the Indian deaths and attack in aussie land, it seems they were not recorded. As far as minorities and immigrants are concernded it is literally tried in your 'kangaroo' courts.
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by Mehul Patel on Nov 16, 2009 08:40 AM
dear lady u suggest ppl to grow up, but its u who needs growing up. coz u leave ur comments just by skimming through the news and other articles. u say the hatred in ur country is not state sponsored, but is ur state doing anything to protect it either? it clearly shows they r playing their part. and everyone knows the history of your adopted country..made up of criminals what else do u expect of them. and u claim to know more abt indian religious culture, i think u need to smell coffee, coz u'll never understand our great culture in one birth...u've just read some articles and might have done some research but its not enough. come to gujarat and u'll realize how wrong r u and how much knowledge u still need to gain b4 advising others...
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by guru on Nov 16, 2009 08:20 AM
well written gilliana. i seen australia.its heaven on earth and not like india where you are supressed by your caste status
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by devarajan k on Nov 16, 2009 08:19 AM
You are a typical gora with your divide and rule mentality Giliana despite ur schooling.you cannot rule us now but trying to divide.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by guru on Nov 16, 2009 08:21 AM
dear devarajan, little attacks are in every country but when you go to other country and tease their girls,use their caste base identity same like in india to dominant society then who is going to listen you. every country is not india.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by Mehul Patel on Nov 16, 2009 08:48 AM
well there u go guru. u yourself r accepting that every country is not india and y indians get bashed outside india. well u ppl do the same here in our country but u get away coz of our tolerance. thats the greatness of this country. this is the only country where every religion is accepted and given importance. u ppl cant sing vande mataram and then demand equal rights? first try to be a part of this country and then see further how great our country is..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by guru on Nov 16, 2009 09:01 AM
Dear Mr patel, why indians are bashed everywhere because of the image of this country.why not other people like chinese,russians,korean etc? because indians are not united.i sing vande matram,you see yourself why our hindus are not united being the major community in india?? some peole are still living like untouchables and not given equal rights.they are also hindu and indians. think about it.this is the only reason every country attacked on india.if we were united no one could
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by vicky on Nov 20, 2009 06:32 AM
Dear Gilliana
If you know India,then don't you know that our constitution grants not only equal rights but grants special rights to minorities.Don't you think its shameful on part of your ex prime minister to say,"If you wish to live in australia follow our culture".By the way you left india in 1947 and the documents which you are talking pertains to British era. When others lived happily in India why did you feel unsafe. Was it because your father was one of the British officers. We love our minorties as our brothers and we donot need your certificate. How many aboriginals happened to be Prime Ministers or head of state in Australia.Shed your bias and take care of your own country before poking nose in others affairs.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by vicky on Nov 20, 2009 07:32 AM
Further can you or the british apologise for the genocide carried out by them during their rule.1857,jhallianwala bagh etc. Hundreds of villages where both hindus and muslims coexisted were burned. And what about genocide of Iraqis in the name of weapons of mass destruction.Did you raise your voice there? It seems your past is troubling you. India is no more a colony but a rising power of this world.
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by sanjay dash on Nov 19, 2009 11:43 PM
Dear Gilliana this shows your hatred towards india and its citizens.You are suffering from some complex when you say that you know more about India than, say, Vicky.Don't interfere in Our life.you have left India.Let all of us live in peace.Don;t abuse our religion and our leaders.
Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by Mohammed yahya on Nov 16, 2009 05:39 PM
Saravanan u hindus fought castism for 5000 years , Hindu- muslim-christian riots for 200 years and now you people are fighting for langauge u people r more racist than any human in world...
Re: Zakia Nizami
by Mehul Patel on Nov 16, 2009 08:29 AM
Ms. G Freitas,
As much as I respect for showing concern towards India, I think u shud not comment in a way u have done unless u know the whole story. U came to know that it was state sponsored but it hasnt been proved. And hatred in Pakistan is not due to Gujarat, but due to their backwardness, and lack of proper education. They r misguided people in the same way u r misguided regarding gujarat. Most of the cases were made up during that time, ppl who never even existed were reported dead. Ppl who werent even able to leave their bed, were arrested on such reports. Its better not to comment unless u know the whole story. Dont trust Indian media, they want "SANSANI" and start the issue. They did the same when there was a fire in oil refinery. But eventually they got paid by govt. and stopped reporting on it. Ppl dont care coz they get new "MASALA NEWS" everyday. Here in India, ppl do not want to know the truth. I've never read any comment or article where someone really wants to know who was responsible. Anyways thats not imp here, whats imp is u ppl shud worry abt racism in ur own country. If ur ppl can enjoy freedom, y cant Narendra Modi enjoy his freedom? If u research on the internet, u'll find how much he has done for the country even before he became CM.
Your love towards Zakia further proves u r racist towards real indians coz u know their agenda is not for the development of our country but to further divide it on the basis of their religion......
Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by guru on Nov 16, 2009 09:03 AM
people do not like and do not accept the truth. i agree with this. cant say anything about the religion which one is good which one is bad.its all about the human beings who are creating trouble everywhere
Re: Re: Re: Zakia Nizami
by gandeev on Nov 16, 2009 09:57 AM
it is beyond understanding that why muslim mahila ... is critcal of govt.,where as all the ills are rewarded by their own mullahs etc they r uneducated not becas of govt.but their own religious rules,they r suffering becas of talak again it is due to their religious rule.they r also against Modi -why they must understand that who put the train on fire ? india is a secular democracy it provide equal opportunities to all without discrimination of any sort. u r adviced to come in the main stream and enjoy and fight withe unjust practice of your own community
Re: Zakia Nizami
by Deepak MA on Nov 16, 2009 09:47 AM
Dear Gilliana... shows your shallow thinking! the event happened in 2002 and hatred against Indians by pakistan dates from 1947! Please pea brain go back to Australia and undo the atrocities against the aborigines!!!
yet another muslim blaming brahmins for all the wrongs done to them.on the contrary it were brahmins who faced genocide at the hand of muslim rulers. it should be brahmins who should be complaining about muslim atrocities. the constant low intensity demographic war waged by muslims against hindus is the real cause why hindu anger eventually erupts like it did in gujrat. but these people simply dont get it
Re: brahmins
by Shravan on Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT !! these MuslimPeople when given food, shelter, clothing & all the basic need in INDIA then Also thisFakirs Will Beg for every thing these refugees are well setteled in INDIA, but want to destroy the Hindus &the Hindustan the HinduPeopleAre NotGetting AnyGood BenifitButThese FuCkirsNeedEveryThingFrom INDIA these is why Our Nation is going Down otherwise INDIA IS ALWAYS THE BEST!!!! JAI HIND...
Re: brahmins
by sanjay dash on Nov 14, 2009 10:44 PM
it is india where you can tell like this.go to any islamic country and speak against the state or the against the majority and see what happens.india is secular because of its majority citizens are hindus.don't believe ?think about kashmir .it is against hindus.who are in majority there?
Re: Re: brahmins
by Asif Ali on Nov 16, 2009 03:57 PM
Sanjay know that formation of india was on secular basis, hence if you compair with islamic nations, then its your mistake.
Pundits are safe if they are out of kashmir, what else you need ? why dont you rehabilitate them in another states, if they are not safe ? what so called hndu parti ruled a full term, what they did ? why modi didnt took them in gujrat ?
