Hearty congratulations to Venkatraman. Being an economics student I am also happy for Oliver Williamson and Elinor Ostrom. Of course we have Obama who also deserving or not deserving is getting the prize
Somehow I have lost any respect I had for the Nobel prizes after it was conferred to Obama. What the ...??!!
Nobel prizes are nothing now but false ego pampering and western chauvinism. Even this desi probably got it because he worked in US - if he did the same work in India, I am sure his app might have been tossed out, like Gandhiji's was.
Re: What Nobel?
by happy apple on Dec 11, 2009 02:58 AM
I agree with this. Actually Venky has himself said this. There are many deserving scientists working in India. Ex: People often say CNR Rao should have got.
Re: What Nobel?
by amrish sharma on Dec 11, 2009 09:01 AM
Gandhiji had applied for Nobel and in nay case you ignorant oaf they dont invite personal applications for nobel
Re: What Nobel?
by Fluffy Kumar on Dec 11, 2009 03:18 AM
Gone is the prestige of such intellectual giants like Einstein who got Nobels. Now, in science, any obscure person who toil in molecular biology is sure to get a prize in either Chemistry and Medicine. Venky's stuff on Ribosomes- what good is it?
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by happy apple on Dec 11, 2009 03:01 AM
I think this may be coincidence. I don't think any race or caste say Brahmins or Jews are inherently superior.
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by Sharat on Dec 11, 2009 03:41 AM
Discrimination (social and constitutional) on caste, language, region, religion and color is nothing but pure Racism. This mentality is creepy and inimical to us. Did only Kings, Knights, Nobles or Priests make inventions/discoveries in the west? Knowledge came from across the length and breadth of western society. If the west had this sort of racism/reverse racism, which we have in our mindset, they would still be in dark ages.They just kicked it out of their mindset to great extent that’s why Dr. Ramakrishnan was able to work there, because west simply needs the best no matter from where it comes. Knowledge is power! So the more the number of knowledgeable people the more powerful the nation is. Both Racism and reverse- Racism will eat the very soul of the nation. Let the best be brought to the fore, no matter from where it comes. Unfortunately our society, laws and above all our mentality loves the concept of “I am better than you because of my ancestors/color/language/region etc”. That’s one of our nation’s main danger.
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by purva on Dec 11, 2009 06:27 AM
What is with this line of thinking? I do not think any of the above people you listed ever thought of this (that they were Brahmins), but only focused on the work in front of them. The positive results came to them regardless.
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by Arvind Sharma on Dec 11, 2009 08:58 AM
While dealing with Indians abroad do the foreigners make distinction between one Indian and another? Not really. They treat all Indians equally shabbily. So please come out of this extremely dangerous caste mind set which has done immense harm to us for thousands of years and continues to do so. Our identity should be- first and last - Indian. Every other identity of ours should necessarily wither away if we are to be taken seriously by anyone and that includes even the failed states like Pakistan.
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by Uaskedforit on Dec 11, 2009 02:19 AM
Dont bring caste into this ... ! The fact remains that the Nobel prize is not the only yardstick that we can use! The Brahmins are benifitting for the thousands of years when education was solely theirs . Another yardstick of all the nine avatars of Lord Mahavishnu just one was Brahim . Of all the winners of Param Vir Chakra ... how many are Brahmins ?
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by netpal buddy on Dec 11, 2009 08:53 AM
You can also say that only brahmins are preferred by Nobel committee! We should all ask for 22.5% reservation for Scs and STs and 27.5% for BCs! Out of rest 50%, Indians should be considered for 25% of all prizes considering the vast size and population.
Re: Nobel prizes of India
by Ravichander Banerjee on Dec 11, 2009 02:11 AM
If they were ever good why did they need reservations in name of caste, creed or son of soil.
Re: Re: Nobel prizes of India
by Forrest Gump on Dec 11, 2009 02:15 AM
who? brahmins? they have been the victims of reservation....get your facts right.
he studied his schooling and BSC from Baroda...open minded ness in inventing new things comes from that...some tamilians claimed he got his degree from chidambaram in tamil nadu where he was only born..this angered venkatesh and he raised his objection against tamilians in an email...most tamilians brought up outside tamil nadu hate the narrow minded fanaticsm of tamilians of tamil nadu....
Re: he was raised in Gujarat
by Forrest Gump on Dec 11, 2009 02:04 AM
tamilians in mumbai, delhi, gujarat etc never return to tamil nadu...they hate tamil nadu but may like tamil food and culture...anyway brahmins of tamil nadu are considered outsiders by native non brahmin tamilians themselves.
Re: Re: he was raised in Gujarat
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Dec 11, 2009 07:44 AM
Why did they personally come and tell you this? Tamil Brahmins are as much as Tamil as any other Tamil caste or community, only a few Dravidian fanatics believe in this nonsense that they are outsiders most ordinary Tamils are not interested in this bullshit. Any way modern day Tamil sare actually a mixture of Aryan. Dravidian and Australoid. So stop spreading nonsence and try ot create caste rifts amongst Tamils. Go and do that to your own liguistic or ethnic community. Understood.
Re: Nobel Prize
by happy apple on Dec 11, 2009 03:04 AM
US president must be happy that even though he does not deserve , he is receiving this award along with other deserving noble nobel laureates.
In INDIA Sciences or Engineering is ALL about 3 things
1. Admission 2. Submission 3. Examination
while in other G8 nations Sciences/Engg MEANS
1. Knowledge/Seminars/Motivations 2. Research/Science fairs/Robot competions..etc. 3. Innovations/new ideas 4. Applications/Usage 5. Business needs and Marketing. may be more i might have missed.
Dear Govt. of India(GOI), I want my town to be state and capital of that state like our capital of India NewDelhi.My town is facing discrimination from my state and people are having acute shortage of resources.More than half of the people are illiterate and doesn't have access to medical facilities.Agriculture has fallen considerably by application of chemical fertilizers, so is per capita income, thanks to no industry in this town for local people.I am not demanding any flyovers or Metro train but a separate state, which will eradicate all the basic problem of my town by telangana standards.
I know this is demand of every indian towns and villages, which are facing acute poverty and lack of opportunities and above all justice in all levels.
Re: It will solve all problems....
by Seenu Subbu on Dec 11, 2009 01:58 AM
All right son, which is your state, town and neighborhood, please tell us, so we can give your street a union territory status.
Indians have better brain no doubt. But still they get lost in theory. Dont use and think how to make it practical. thats why we are not able to develop and maintain good system in india. there is chaose evry where. Our education has to go and training needs to be given.
Re: We need practical projects to work, not theory.
by Management Consultant on Dec 11, 2009 12:42 AM | Hide message
what better brain ? what is the criteria ? 90% of modern day inventions and nobel prizes and all modern industries were all developed by western people or pakistanis. So Indian brain is not better, in fact inferior and can just do coolie work based on white man's specifications. Look at your own state and its condition, your citizens have to wander around like loiterers and get beaten everywhere like recently in punjab and Maharastra too. Apparently you biharis dont have "brains" at all to figure out how to develop your own state, let alone better.
Re: Re: We need practical projects to work, not theory.
by Happy Indian on Dec 11, 2009 01:47 AM
hahahhahahahha.........porki invented suicide bombs, taliban and the like.
Re: Re: We need practical projects to work, not theory.
by Uaskedforit on Dec 11, 2009 01:01 AM
Porki .... I think that if there was Nobel Prize for Jokes you would have got it... for claiming that Pakistanis invented anything . Suicide Bombing may have been a Pakistani invention but even that the LTTE invented it before you did.
Last year while I visited NASA some Scientists told me that they worked closely with some Pakistanis and are convinced that they are not fully evolved human beings. They suspect that Pakistanis may be the actual "missing Link" that Darwin suggested exited between man and Ape .... !
Re: Re: Re: We need practical projects to work, not theory.
by Tina on Dec 11, 2009 01:21 AM
ur comment is funny...as in not atrociously funny...but sensibly funny. Management consultant however needs to know that earth does not revolve around Pakistan...or any country for that matter...so no need to connect everything to this hackneyed context. . If somebody has done a good job, whichever nationality s/he might be having, appreciate it. That's really it.
sorry to say but american /british are much better than us in terms of everything. They utilise their abilities to max not like us busy in MtV / V or sare gama pa we can excel in songs / dancing Whatever majority of innovation is done it by americans or britishers You name it you will get the answer right from bulb to fighter planes it's their innovation We are thankful to them Accpet the truth and think before you say any illogical thing We can only sit and relax recently H1NI vaacine was created by Americans not by us we are only testing on animals and can copy it later THINK !!!!!!!!!!!! They enjoy better brain power than us We are good to follow them If they have
Re: better Brain power
by gurjyot sethi on Dec 11, 2009 12:47 AM
being pro america is not a good sign.... n get ur facts clear b4 giving such comments.... indians have dominated in the world frm ages.. more than 70 % of d silicon valley is filled with indians... v have d brains not them.. america was just d "land of opportunity". ppl went ther n made it wat it is 2day... btw britishers only stole wat they cud frm their colonies.....
Re: better Brain power
by Jaleel on Dec 11, 2009 12:32 AM
Pakistanis have good inventive streak in particular. What was the name of that scientist abdul something who invented atomic power and bomb and shared with poorer countries also ?
