The ones who really need it are either not aware of it or are too frightened to use it and the one's who use it actually misuse it. Take reservation for example. I have rarely seen a really socially and ecnomically deprived person getting the advantage of quotas. The ones who get are already rich and affluent with good social status.
Same is the case with woman's laws.
The women who are really harassed and abused often do not use these laws and ones who use them are mostly unscrupulous women who want to harass their husbands and in laws for some reason or the other!
This Section Can be efectively used against Non Performing MP's MLa's Municipal leaders, Development opposing Beaurucrats, Bribe mongers, Thanks for making all citizens aware of this law
The ones who really need it are either not aware of it or are too frightened to use it and the one's who use it actually misuse it. Take reservation for example. I have rarely seen a really socially and ecnomically deprived person getting the advantage of quotas. The ones who get are already rich and affluent with good social status.
Same is the case with woman's laws.
The women who are really harassed and abused often do not use these laws and ones who use them are mostly unscrupulous women who want to harass their husbands and in laws for some reason or the other!
Laws should be followed more in spirit and less in letter!
Re: Re: Indian laws
by Tall Male on Aug 09, 2009 12:38 AM
And the fact is that men are not protected under these laws against harassment by women. Still, we talk about equality. Do we know the meaning of equality? Or, are we pushing female-domination and calling it equality? The fact is that women domination is called equality and idiotic men are not realising the fact.
a billion strong India ranks a lowly 147 in FIFA world rankings. The bench is a genuine football lover, hence the judgement so that the country produces players who would improve the ranking
Re: Kicking
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 10:56 PM
The real players are the feminist media. And the real idiots are men like you who are in the medieval era protecting and providing women and believe the feminist media. The truth is that IPC 498A is misused and the judges has given a clear judgement that assault and kicking cannot come under the ambit of 498A since it is related to dowry alone. That does not mean that kicking is legal. BTW, there is absolutely no protection for men and husbands when wife kicks or hires goons to beat up men. It is because of foolish men like you living in the medieval era of chivalry and encouraging the stupid feminism.
I would like to tell all the people to first know the matter in depth and then comment. Supreme court told that in context to 498a case, kicking and abusing is not a crime as per 498a which is openly misused in India. These Media people instead of creating awareness are creating confusions and misleading the society. Shame on you!!
Re: Media is fooling People
by RAJAVARMAN on Aug 07, 2009 11:20 AM
The media is not misleading the public, but you are certainly.Is kicking or physically abusing somebody not a crime under IPC?. Then what is wrong if kicking a cruelty under 498A?. May be the 498A is misused by somebody to harass their husbands and in-laws, but that cannot give freedom to husbands and in-laws to ill treat their daughter-in-laws.
Re: Re: Media is fooling People
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:03 PM
If kicking and abusing is not a crime, why are men not protected under laws? why are men and husbands not protected against harassment by women? Why are men not protected against misuse of laws by women? How can you be sure that media is a saint and not misleading people? Have you read the judgement? The judgement is right and I support it! Kicking cannot come under IPC 498A because it is purely related to dowry demands. This is being misused thoroughly by women because the onus of proving innocent lies on the men and not women! So, the feminist media is misleading the people and this is a media created image of the judgement. The judges are absolutely right. The laws cannot be misused. Finally, kicking is still a crime under Dv act. It can never be legal. However, since 498A is related to dowry, kicking under it without dowry factor cannot be tenable. You must be a fool to believe media. Stupid media is promoting hatred of men.
Re: Media is fooling People
by RAJAVARMAN on Aug 07, 2009 11:22 AM
The media is not misleading the public, but you are certainly.Is kicking or physically abusing somebody not a crime under IPC?. Then what is wrong if kicking a cruelty under 498A?. May be the 498A is misused by somebody to harass their husbands and in-laws, but that cannot give freedom to husbands and in-laws to ill treat their daughter-in-laws.
Re: Re: Media is fooling People
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:04 PM
Do you know that there are no laws to protect men when harassed by women.....the law has legalised harassment of men by women and men like you are in the medieval era and thinking that women are all abla naris. Wake up!
Indian men are idiots when it comes to women. They give them undue importance and all the laws are skewed in their favor. Most Indian women stink badly!!!
Re: Indian women take advantage of all the laws in their favor
by Jalim Jallad on Aug 07, 2009 11:16 AM
Look who is talking...the carricature of an ape
Re: Re: Indian women take advantage of all the laws in their favo
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:06 PM
Look who is responding....a medieval guy who is protecting and providing the modern feminist women thinking that they are all abla naris......a medieval chivalrous guy who tries to become a hero in front of women! Shame on you!
It is shameful to read such a judgement and the judges did not applied their mind before pronouncing this judgement. If kicking does not amount to cruelty, then what amounts to cruelty, killing?. I can understand if the judgement were delivered by a single judge, then there can a mistake in using words or some biased thinking. But it was delivered by a bench and both judges were in coherence and there is little place for error.
What I feel is both of them were affected parties and they were treated badly by their wifes and to show their anger, they have given such an illogic verdict.
Re: SUPREME COURT LOST ITS CREDIBILTY
by Argumentative Indian on Aug 07, 2009 12:57 PM
Moron, there is a difference between physical assault and cruelty.
Re: SUPREME COURT LOST ITS CREDIBILTY
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:10 PM
It is because of medieval men like you that IPC 498A and DV act and all other anti-male laws exist. Because there are too many men like you who believe that women cannot lie, that men are naturally duty-bound to protect and provide women and yet give equality to women. It is because of this anti-male mentality that women are misusing the law left,right and center and guys like you are clapping their hands. Guys like you will wake up only when you get an IPC 498A stick up your back. Until then, you continue to live in the medieval era. The supreme court has not supported kicking. It has merely stated that kicking cannot come under the ambit of cruelty under IPC 498A since 498A is related to dowry alone. Kicking is very much a crime under all other laws. But kicking men by women is not a crime since there are no laws to protect men.
The learned Justices S B Sinha and Cyriac Joseph were strangely silent on how to construe the opposite, that is, if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or mother-in-law. This shows how baised the law is.
Re: if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or mother-in-la
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:13 PM
There are no laws to protect men. So, the learned judges cannot do anything about it. IPC 498A is misused by women. The judges have merely stated that kicking cannot come under the ambit of cruelty as defined under 498A since it is related to dowry alone. However, kicking continues to be a crime under other laws. But IPC 498A is misused heavily and everything and anything is put under it to harass men and their families. The fact that men have no protection under the law against harassment by women shows that the laws, media and society is biased against men. Women should stop taking undue advantage of the system. They should stop taking the advantages of tradition and modernity.
Re: if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or mother-in-la
by kk on Aug 07, 2009 11:07 PM
Unfortunately all such judgements are asked from male judges. Why not include some women judges when creating laws for or related to women. This is such a biased law...where MIL-FIL can kick bahu but bahu cannot kick them in return...huh...seema there are talibanism in India too...that to at SC level.. :-(
Re: Re: if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or mother-i
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:17 PM
The REAL Talibans are in the media who are twisting judgements to suit feminism. The court has not said that MIL can kick DIL. It has said that under IPC 498A, kicking cannot be construed as being cruelty as it is related to dowry alone. It simply means that all other laws are applicable. IPC 498A is misused and the court has given relief to the MIL. Women judges are no way morally superior to men. The legal point is the same. Infact, DIL kicking MIL is perfectly legal as there are no laws to protect husbands and families because people like you believe that women can never lie.
Re: Re: if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or mother-i
by kk on Aug 07, 2009 11:07 PM
Unfortunately all such judgements are asked from male judges. Why not include some women judges when creating laws for or related to women. This is such a biased law...where MIL-FIL can kick bahu but bahu cannot kick them in return...huh...seems* there are talibanism in India too...that to at SC level.. :-(
Re: Re: Re: if a daughter-in-law were to kick the husband or moth
by Tall Male on Aug 08, 2009 11:18 PM
Have you own mind. Don't believe the media the way you do. They are taking you and the society for a ride.
