No body is ready to take pain to do a good thing. Is taking care of suppressed ones is wrong ?? But all are ready to criticise. Missionaries are doing a good job All are telling about converting?? Do any brahmin can convert any of these tribels to their caste??
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 03:49 PM
convert tribals to what? hindusim, nobody knows whats hinduism, none on rediff have been able to give me an answer, i have been abused for asking this. In my view hinduism is nothing but confusion, confusionism.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Sevenrishi on Sep 01, 2008 05:27 PM
Hey Prem padro, Ya i agree with u that hinduism is confusing but the actual word will be not "confusing" its "contradictory" because hisduism is not like Buddhism preached by Lord Buddha not like Chirstianity preached by Lord Jesus and not by Islam preached by Prophet Mohammed it is the oldest of all scriptures in the world having no evidence of its origin, some thing like "the laws of gravitation" which exsist in earth before its discovery by Issac Newton and it will be there if all the human beings forget about it.Any how,u or no body including any Swamiji of any order can't revised about Hinduism in one single life for it at least u have to take more birth. Ya its hearing to be joke but it is true, what any of the swamiji spokes is about just a part of Hinduism. And due to such complexity u will find a large no. of conversion from hinduism to other simple ajustable religion, i am not discourgeing other religion i am just telling about the complexity of hinduism. Any how i would like to suggest the books , sayings and biography of Swami Vivekananda to know hinduism better in HIS writing u wil find some simplicity and it will help u to understand that the hinduism is not at all contradictory moer over it will help people for a better option with different ways.
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by venkat on Sep 01, 2008 03:51 PM
If you have not read the various philosophies of hinduism then I am sorry to say that the term is not confusion. Without reading it, you are confused.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:08 PM
I know hinduism not full a little learned sanskrit not full a little only for 5 years. Heard a lot of stories from Grand father about puranas. heard a little about vedas But in vedas , I dont know whether u read or not it is mentioned about a person named 'Prajapathi' is comming .
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ramanath Babu on Sep 01, 2008 05:08 PM
Prem,
Hinduism cannot be explaiend in this forum. There are lot of links on the internet, where you can learn about Hinduism. You can read as many articles as you want, if you are not a letter-hater. Take another five years for reading, and you will still feel that a lot is to be learnt of Hinduism. Such is the vastness of books on Hinduim, and you expect somebody to explain what is Hinduism on this forum!
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by hari kumar on Sep 01, 2008 03:56 PM
Hinduism is a culture, a way of life, unlike christians who has undergo baptism,pray in Church every Sunday and believe in Bible to be a true chirstian. Unlike christanity we don't force our religion down anybody's throat. Anyone is free to embrace the way of life which is the panacea to the ills affecting our world.
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:12 PM
Christianity is a religion. Normally no one will force to convert
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 03:58 PM
culture, way of life?? what do you mean? dont compare what others do, tell me about yourself, what you are.
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 04:09 PM
because of mughals and brits you are out of jungle, typing in english. If not for them you would covering with green leaves(eco friendly) and doing jhingalala in jungles.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:15 PM
Who told U that In british all r christians. Christianity orginates from Asia. Not from British or from US
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 04:07 PM
because of mughals and brits you are out of jungle, typing in english. If not for them you would covering with green leaves(eco friendly) and doing jhingalala in jungles.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by hari kumar on Sep 01, 2008 04:26 PM
Yes, iam confused about Padro.Poor guy, he is the follower of someone who can't save himself from being beaten,brutalised and nailed on a cross. How can your savouir save you?
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by shyam prasad on Sep 01, 2008 04:22 PM
dear prem hinduism is the culmination of the reseach of our fore fathers who have been searchin for the truth since 5000years. the first philosophy wa swritten by our fore father 5000 years back called vedas. subsequent rishis & sants explanaied them in the form of upnishads etc. it cannot be explained in such short time or space. we belive that human being is not a sinner but a reflection of the ultimate truth it self. it is the best vehicle provide by the almity to reach him & attain nirvan. we believe that all living thing are a reflection of the almight & will utimately reach the nirwan as they will be born as human.the vedas say that every drop of rain will ultimately reach its source i.e the ocean like wise every prayer in what ever form will ultimately reach the altimate truth.the vedas say truth(god) is one but people call it by different names all path lead to the same truth. hence we donnot call people animist, pagans orinfidels as we belive their path also lead to the same truth i.e god . we do not fear god because we believe that god does not have anything to do with our sufferring as all that is happening to us is due to our karmas i.e action. being humans gad has given us intellect to distinguish between good karmas & bad karmas & the karma we choose will decide our future. hence a philoshiphy which is 5000 years old & native to our motherland cannot be compressed in asingle book like the bible or quran which these semitic religions believe to te the only truth
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 04:45 PM
why would god make too many ways to know him, did he really create so many or it was done by man.
or if i may ask why would not god send a guidance and path for him live and worship.
how can you say the forefathers, so called saints are right.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by sanjeev ganguly on Sep 01, 2008 04:03 PM
@Prem Padro :yes, if u want to be a moral, ethical and real human being, tolerant to other religion , cultured,how to respect others, identity of ur language caste everthing in only one name,then be hindu
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Manohar on Sep 01, 2008 04:15 PM
prem padro - pl email at kamath_68@yahoo.co.in and I shall give u an insight into Hinduism.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Manohar on Sep 01, 2008 04:17 PM
Diana, the african people are dying of hunger. What has resulted from your christianisation. NOTHING.
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:27 PM
Missionaries are normal human beings So many are there in Africa working among poor.Not only in Africa all over the world
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:56 PM
Helping poor is good. But helping just for the sake of conversion is fooling these people to fall into a religion, which wants its followers to strictly follow what was written in a book thousands of yrs ago.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:44 PM
Ram, Why U r fearing about conversions?? Every human beings have their own way of thing, if they can select what subject they want to take for higher studies job as per teir wish? Y should they can have their own beliefs We are NOT robots
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ramanath Babu on Sep 01, 2008 05:32 PM
Diana,
You are supporting the poaching activities of your missioneries and it is understandable, you being a christian.
Itis a fact that these christian missioneries show sympathy and offer money and material to the poor only to convert them into christianity. This is called poaching and in order to stem the rot, Hindu organizations have also now come up with programmes for tribals and dalits. Till now the missioners had a free-run in these areas and now they see a challenge in these sadhus/saints who are doing social/community services. If Hindus also start the same services how will the christian be able to convert these poor people. That is the reason now evanglists want to liquidate these swamijis.
LIVE AND LET LIVE. Nobody will do any harm to you. But if you cross your limit, be prepared to face the backlash.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by venkat on Sep 01, 2008 03:50 PM
is caste system eliminated in christianity. Why you are arguing for reservation of DALIT christians?
When these missionaries landed in Australia and America, native indians and aborigines were there. Where are they?
Now, Catholic church is busy writing apology letters asking for apology to non existent people for destroying their civilizations.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ramesh on Sep 01, 2008 04:02 PM
Dalit christians are asking reservation for their lower economic conditions. Changing religion doesn't enhance the economic condition. If they offered lot of money for conversion they why they ask jobs with govt. They change their religion becase upper class brahmins exploiting them. The best solution is Convert All SC/ST people into Brhamin or convert all Brhmin into SC/ST.
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by veera on Sep 01, 2008 03:54 PM
@diana
when was the last time u used ur brain ?
perhaps from where do u think the money is generated to run this country ???? whose money is used to build raods,dams ,infra structure ,basic facilities ???
is it missinary money?? or 85 Crore HINDU tax payers money???
any idea who is protecting losers like u on the border ?? it is 8 lakh hindu soldiers
any idea who produces the food grains that u eat every day ? HINDU farmers
how low u blame the HINDU's as doing nothing for the poor ???
i challenge u DIANA ,ask ur missionires to RUN BHARAT for ONE DAY ... let them feel the enormous burden of feeding 1 billion people ..u will understand then ....
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by vijay narayanan on Sep 01, 2008 04:13 PM
excellent reply Veera.. but alas there would be no replies for good posts as these people have no answers!
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Prem Padro on Sep 01, 2008 04:16 PM
India is the biggest minority empowerment country by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink | Hide replies
India is the biggest minority empowerment country. Our PM is a weak Sikh, our Super PM is an Italian Christian lady and our Prsedent till sometime back was a learned and great Muslim.
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:24 PM
So in Indian army only Hindus are there?? Only Hindus want to pay tax in India?? then Y I paid tax?? I don't know about this new rule?? Is this rule going to come or still there?? can U explain what is hinduism?? In puranas or Vedas Is there any thing to kill armless people?? or to destry fellow beings with out any reason??
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by veera on Sep 01, 2008 04:36 PM
@diana dont give evasive replies ... u blamed HINDU's for not having dont anything for poor ...my msg was meant to make u understand in every dimension of ur life HINDU's protect u ...
ur missionries only created hatred between us ... ask the bloody missionries to exit India ... we all belong to the same BLOOD ,it is a shame we kill one another b'cose of the division these missionires have creatd between US .
Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by diana charles on Sep 01, 2008 04:54 PM
Veera, Christianity is religion of love not hatred. and missionaries won't create any hatred among people.they are preaching love. Y U are fearing about conversions? Y u r seeing human beings through a glass of religion? By brith u r following hinduism no? Do we don't have freedom to live according to our belifs? R we robots?
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by veera on Sep 01, 2008 05:01 PM
@diana
when was the last time u thgt any thing great abt HINDUISM ??? pls dont tell me some one pops to other religion without hating his parent religion . the Missionries inject Venom in the minds of converts and they start hating their parent religion .
no body will switch one's religion without any hatred on it ...
who is seeing Humanity thro the glass of religion ??? HINDUS or Christians ???
if u want to help why can't Missionries help without asking them to convert to xtianity????
live by ur ideology ,we have no issues ...but when u think only ur IDEOLOGY is greatest and others are inferior ,and try impsoing ur ideology on others ,there arise the PROBLEM .
and for ur kind information ,learn abt what christianity did to natives of Africa and sourht america and how christianity spread in those continents ..
to help u ,try googling the word "SPANISH CONQUISTADOR "
Re: Re: Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ramanath Babu on Sep 01, 2008 05:23 PM
When there is an attack on 'Dharma' every Hindu has a duty to do Dharmaraksha. There is nothing wrong even if you take arms for Dharmaraksha. Hindus believe that everything on this world is God's creation - living and non-living. It is also his Will that the human race follow different religious paths as absolute power will corrupt. Just imagine a world with just one religion. The relgiious heads will soon become autocrat and they will dicate terms. If all the flowers in the world has only one colour what is the charm in that? God has created all these confusion purposely. Unlike other religions, Hinduim does not want other religion to perish. WE want other religions to co-exist. As long as you worship your God without interfering into the affiars of other religions, there is no harm. The whole problem starts when you try to poach, and ask your followers to kill others.
No body is ready to take pain to do a good thing. Is taking care of suppressed ones is wrong ?? But all are ready to criticise. Missionaries are doing a good job All are telling about converting?? Do any brahmin can convert any of these tribels to their caste??
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Supersecualirist on Sep 01, 2008 04:36 PM
Missionaries are doing a good of job of helping the poor and downtrodden or doing a good of job of conversion for getting more donations from abroad?
Re: R u ready to take care of them?????
by Ramesh on Sep 01, 2008 04:07 PM
I am 100% sure that, You are member of Bajrangdal and want to egnate fire between christians and muslims.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Killing of Swamiji is the handiwork of Musalmaans to create divide..
by Supersecualirist on Sep 01, 2008 04:42 PM
I agree that:
a) Anyone irrespective of his caste, creed, region or religion if he accepts that he is Indian only first is an Indian Citizen. b) I agree that VHP, BD and RSS are not members of the minority community and you being a minority member, your asking them to be killed, I do not agree c) I repeat everyone irrespective of his caste, creed, region or religion has equal right including live and let live policy. In other words, if one religionist does not believe in conversion, then the other religionists also should accept that. Otherewise there is no equality. d) By simily being a member of minority community, he cannot expect respect from another. He should command respect, not demand.
India is the biggest minority empowerment country. Our PM is a weak Sikh, our Super PM is an Italian Christian lady and our Prsedent till sometime back was a learned and great Muslim. This type of minority empowerment cannot b found anywhere on the earth. This is just bcz Hindus r the most peaceful, tolerant and secular people. Mostly whenever there is Hindu backlash, it is mainly a reaction and not an action, like in Kandhmahal, Godhra or Jammu.
Re: India is the biggest minority empowerment country
by Kapil Dev on Sep 01, 2008 03:46 PM
If u think killing inncent people in bomb blast is act of barvery (Mard) then hat off to you and your thought.
Re: India is the biggest minority empowerment country
by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:58 PM
This shows the difference between Hindus and Muslims. U think u r amrd bcz u can kill innocents without blinking an eye.
Re: India is the biggest minority empowerment country
by pranab sadangi on Sep 01, 2008 05:03 PM
The main root cause is Poverty, Lack of education, Health (lack Of free Hospitals)problem. Eradicate these three there will not be any issue because empty Mind is devils Work shop.
Re: Filthy christian culuture(After muslims who are the worst)
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 03:43 PM
There is only one instance of incest mentioned in the Bible. It was the story of Sodom & Golmoroh. God's anger was so great on these two cities, both were destroyed.
So incest is considered a sin. However, in Hindu families, first cousins are allowed to marry.
About converts. Everyone converts. Even Hindus are converts and also undertake convesion activies.
Most are Hindus by default. Through accident of birth. Very few are by design. Choice. Faith driven. So if one has no faith in his religion by accident of birth, why should one stay in it? If one develops a faith in a religion different from which one orginally belong, why should one be prevented to change faith?
And how did the Aryans treat the original inhabitants of India - the Adivasis and Dravadians? What do to their then religions?
Do remember at one point of history - the Indian empire stretched to whole of Indo-China right up to Indonesia. Whole populations in these countries were Hindus - converted Hindus. Bali is still evidence to this. And so pockets in Sri Lanka
The Hindus themselves are converted. At the time of Ashoka, almost entire India was Buddhist. No one asks how much the present forefathers of Hindus were paid to convert.
If the argument is extended that Buddhism is an offspring of Hinduism, then conversions rear their heads once again. Hindus exported Buddhism to Sri Lanka, China, Japan, Korea etc
Re: Filthy christian culuture(After muslims who are the worst)
by galilio on Sep 01, 2008 03:55 PM
Hinduism deep routed with heritage in bharath and when buddha denounced vedic dharma,he started buddhism which many hindus followed same practice of hinduism minus vedic rituals.so it is the way of life that changed people of bharath to accept old practice of vedic dharma after giving up the norms of buddhism which died naturally after the arrival of bagwath sankara,madhva chariar and bagwath ramaunja who crystallised the practice of vedic dharma by which time buddhism is totally wiped out from india. in bharath, there is no Adivasis but they are called 'vanavasis''as they lived in forest following up the tradition of boatman guha and old lady sabhari who were affectionate towards lord RAM.so they are also hindus only.
with the arrival of christian missionaries during british period,they planted many false history,fradulant theory,spread false belief to tribals and lower section of people by spreading venom on casteism to split the unity of hindus which till now they are carrying out.but now time has come that hindus are united.it started with Gujarath, jammu and now orissa and soon will spread to other states also if missionaries do not stop conversion.
Re: Filthy christian culuture(After muslims who are the worst)
by pranab sadangi on Sep 01, 2008 05:10 PM
It is funny to know that In orissa where the crisis occured People though convert for whatever reason may be preach Hinduism after the conversion also. They go to temples observe the hindu festivals
To your disbelief One christian father had done rituals after his sons death in Hindu way because His son was not taken Holy deep though he was married.
So what is the religion of that father or his son.
Whether he is Hindu or Christian.
U can check that person personally I give his name and Add.
Re: Re: Filthy christian culuture(After muslims who are the worst)
by galilio on Sep 01, 2008 04:28 PM
Ramayana period dates back to 16 lacs years and Mahabaratha period dates back to 5600 years.you have historical records in various temples about the kings of Ramayana and mahabartha peroid from king Dasarada to pandavas who followed vedic dharma. where is the question of ARYAN invasion when hinduism was already deep rooted in bharath for very long time. only name hindu was given as Alexender greek king invaded india,he called people living in sindu river as 'hindus'.read books on hind civilisation.Aryan invasion is the myth created and planted by missionaries and british colonical rulers to mislead hindus.
No body changes his religion for money or for any other favours because if the money is the sole purpose for conversion then he or she demand money from VHP too for reconversion. VHP aggressivly involved re-conversion. That mean VHP too offer money for reconversion. Then why VHP is crying?
Re: Conversion for Money
by pranav pawar on Sep 01, 2008 03:43 PM
Dear Ramesh, If VHP had done conversion by offering money, then I don't think that Swami Laxmananad would have bee killed....It pseudo secularism of so called secularists who always blame only HINDUS for vote bank politics
Re: Conversion for Money
by Ramesh on Sep 01, 2008 03:53 PM
Orissa Govt. & Police clarified that Maoist killed Laxmanand, Moast are Communist and they are Atheist. Hence they don’t like any religion. VHP just want to defame minority Christians and took the chance to take revenge. Till date why killers not traced because nobody interested in it. If the real killers arrested then VHP cant show his face for falsely implicating Christians
Re: Re: Conversion for Money
by galilio on Sep 01, 2008 04:22 PM
If maoists are against religions,they should have killed some christians also which they did not do.maoists were asked by their missionaries masters to inform media that they only killed swamji.everyone knows this is the style of silent operation of Oppusdei,vatigans armsstring who do the convert operations secretly like RAW,ISI,CIA AND KGP.
Re: Conversion for Money
by venkat on Sep 01, 2008 03:43 PM
VHP is not crying alone. It is church that is crying because the money spent is going waste as harvested souls are getting back to the other fold.
Re: Conversion for Money
by galilio on Sep 01, 2008 04:00 PM
Evangelists and missionaries send the report of soul harvesting with figure and photos/videoclips and even invite their bosses in america,australia,UK and germany who are pumping huge funds for the conversion agenda.what prompted them to do with great speed in the past five years- they want to complete max harvesting before sonia antonia is thrown out of power and once NDA comes to power, vatigan/pope/america will lose their control on india.that is why the urgency now.
Re: Conversion for Money
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 03:52 PM
Actualy the VHP recoversation programes are super flops. Money does not work to get the converted to reconverted. So the use force. Still, only a trickle.
The Jews and Romans persecuted Christians. They crucified them, thre them to lions, burnt thm etc
And yet, 200 years after Jesus, the same Roman Empire to become Christian. Its by persecution that the Christian faith spread. Unknowingly, the VHP and Bajrang Dal violence unleashed on Christians is only helping to fuel Christianity
The murder of the VHP Leader Laxmanananda Saraswati at Kandamal was unfortunate. But the mayhem created by the VHP followers following the murder was equally reprehensible. The carnage against the innocent populace by the frenzy safron brigade was totally in human and it is condemnable by all people of honour. The riots against the Christian community at Khandamal and subsequent burning properties of Churches and other prayer houses was targetted to avenge the killing of their leader. The State Govt has failed to provide the security to the innocent knowing fully well the consequences of the murder. It is the duty of the state govt to provide adequate security to the people of all hues. The BJD Govt has totally failed in providing necessary security. The Centre should have conselled the State Govt or sent para-military to support the police in bringing peace to the riot torn Kandamal. This was not done and it is unfortunate incident particularly when India is facing challenges from the militants in Kashmir. It is the duty of all political parties to work for peace in Kandamal and provide necessary aid to victims. It is the duty of the Stat Govt to rebuild all the churches and prayer houses there. This alone would instill confidence in the mind of the local populace. They should also provide all safeguards to enable them to lead a normal life. The Centre should intervene in case the State failed to provide all the securities.
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 03:34 PM
Most are Hindus by default. Through accident of birth. Very few are by design. Choice. Faith driven. So if one has no faith in his religion by accident of birth, why should one stay in it? If one develops a faith in a religion different from which one orginally belong, why should one be prevented to change faith?
And how did the Aryans treat the original inhabitants of India - the Adivasis and Dravadians? What do to their then religions?
Do remember at one point of history - the Indian empire stretched to whole of Indo-China right up to Indonesia. Whole populations in these countries were Hindus - converted Hindus. Bali is still evidence to this. And so pockets in Sri Lanka
The Hindus themselves are converted. At the time of Ashoka, almost entire India was Buddhist. No one asks how much the present forefathers of Hindus were paid to convert.
If the argument is extended that Buddhism is an offspring of Hinduism, then conversions rear their heads once again. Hindus exported Buddhism to Sri Lanka, China, Japan, Korea etc
However, in essence, the conversion debate misses the basic issues that plague tribal society, which are their capability-deprivation and the stunted growth of human capital. The real identity of the tribals and others marginalized will be enhanced by improving their human capital and capabilities, rather than pondering over their religious affiliations.
The fact is Jesus or Rama people will ultimately leave oppresive religion
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:44 PM
Dear Vijay. All people in the world belong to the religion, to which his or her parents belong. Then why r u singling out only Hindus?
In this age of science there is no benefit in converting to a religion, which wants its followers to blindly follow, what was written in a book thousands of yrs ago. In Europe, most of the Christians r atheists and don't visit Church, bcz there is lot of supertitious argument in Bible.
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 04:02 PM
Not quite Ram. Each Christian has to re-affirm his faith at the time of maturity after getting educating on tenets of his religion.
Christians who have no faith leave to join Islam. The famous of these are Mohammed Ali (Cassius Clay) and Cat Stevens. Richard Gere has become Buddhist. Many have converted to Hinduism - Hare Krishna movement.
So how come you guys are hyper-sensitive. The Hindu philosophy treats all paths lead to God. This means it does not matter which religion one practice. Religion accordingly becomes incidental as a path to God as it implies whatever religion followed leads to God. So what's the great fuzz about one's religion?
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by venkat on Sep 01, 2008 03:46 PM
No one asks how much the present forefathers of Hindus were paid to convert - No one will ask because it was a real change of heart.
Modern days, it is only about money business and nothing else. Did buddhists and not converted hindus fight with each other over religion and killed themselves during ancient days? Aryan Dravidian theory is a myth and proved to be nonsense. Please do not mention it.
Re: Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 04:06 PM
Buddhist-Hindu conversion was a change of heart? Why can't Hindu-Chistian conversions be change of heart also. Those who convert give up reservation privelages, discriminated by their former communities, face the violent wrath of VHP and Bafrang Dal, and yet they do not reconvert. Why? Couldn't be change of heart?
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by S S on Sep 01, 2008 03:30 PM
One-sided picture?
The protests across the country are masking the reason behind the attacks on Christians and the media is blowing these incidents out of proportion.
Everyone talks of the 1992 violence in Mumbai. Nobody talks about the burning of the Radhabai chawl that killed 16 people, which provoked sharp reaction from the Hindu community and Marad massacre which was buried silently by so called seculars.
The protests, organised by some communities, are making the the victims look like offenders. While Christian protestors speak of human rights violations, what about the rights of the four people, including a swamy, who were gunned down?
Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by Vijay B on Sep 01, 2008 03:36 PM
The basic before you cast stones is to do a thorough investigation before honing on who are the culprits? Otherwise we will end up like the Arushi Talwar case. This is what the law of the land demand. However, the VHP consists of lumpen elements of society. So they pursue law of the jungle.
Not only did they accuse Christians without proof but unleash violence, murder and destruction of properties.
It is this lumpen sections of Hinduism - the mirror of Jehadi Muslims - the VHP, Bajrang Dal etc that create an impression that Hindus are barbarians!
Re: Re: Unfortunate madness in Kandamal by Safron Brigade.
by galilio on Sep 01, 2008 05:00 PM
Foreign missionaries from australia and usa would be afraid to step in to orissa now and would concentrate on your area.kindly help them with soul harvesting if you support their cause- conducting Art exhibitions to auction art pieces at high price, conducting Marathan like that took place in chennai where the proceeds all go to missionaries for conversion while they claim for good cause.
Re: Time for India to Disintegrate..Just like Pre-British Era
by rna on Sep 01, 2008 03:29 PM
One thing is sure, u have very poor knowledge abt the subject!
Re: Time for India to Disintegrate..Just like Pre-British Era
by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:32 PM
read newspapers properly before writing. It is Koshi river, which is flooding Bihar. Though it does not matter which river is flooding, as flood is a flood irrespective of the river, which is doing it.
And r u a human being or an animal, that u r enjoying and laughing at the plight of the flooded people?
Grow up and stop hating people on religious grounds.
Re: Time for India to Disintegrate..Just like Pre-British Era
by Ramesh on Sep 01, 2008 03:44 PM
I feel pity for the situation in Bihar and sufferings of people of Bihar but at same time where you humanity gone when fundamenalist burned 20 year old lady. By the grace of god all 20 childrens of Ashram escaped without major hurts. Is these little childrens killed your swami. Where is your humanity when thousands of innocent people have to hide in jungle with nothing to eat and drink? So be humanist first then talk about conversions.
Re: Time for India to Disintegrate..Just like Pre-British Era
by Ram Sharma on Sep 01, 2008 03:52 PM
Did I laugh like is laughing on the plight of flood affected? Then on what grounds r u telling me to b humanist first ...? Just don't criticise us just bcz we r Hindus. Grow up.
