This guy has no right to speak in civil discussion as he was the home minister of India when the genocide or Muslims was carried out in the Hindu Terror state of Gujarat.
Its a shame that this man was asked to speak when he represents the Hindu-Nazi party BJP along with its militant terror organizations of Bajrang Dal and VHP.
Re: Shame on advani for the double talk
by Riten on Oct 10, 2008 10:23 AM
BJP represents the Hindus. If you cannot digest that, don't live in a democracy.
Please scream against mob terror with the same vigour as you do against bomb terror. If you don’t do that you will have no India left.
Please Dont bifurcate that minority is terrorist and majority is nationalist, whoever is behind the terror, killing, raping and terrorising the indian natiionals despite od their religion are Terrorist, Who ever glorifying India, maintaining, Peace and harmony of country, working for the upliftment of country are Nationalist, being Prime Minister in waiting please propogate, this fundamental idealogy.
Please Donot Justify the cause and action of Simi or Bajrang Dal, otherwise no one will trust on justice.
Re: Exclusively for Prime Minister in Waiting, L.K. Advani.
by Rajan P on Oct 10, 2008 11:18 AM
An average Indian, able to read and write, considers everybody who drumbeat themselves as secularists, by accusing for anything and everything the majority community, as anti nationals. You are one of them.
BJP or VHP/BD/RSS does not represent Hindus. They are a section of the Hindu society bold enough to say that they stand for Hinduism. They reacted only when the ruling elite for years together sided with the minority community and supported them for their anti national activities thru terrorism, conversion (fine fabric of society itself will disintegrate by this; there is no India the way India is now, if there is no Hindus in India accepting any religion)reservation etc. That is why, in recent times, average Indians are tempted to vote for BJP and their allies. They will be doing the same this time around.
Re: Re: Re: kerala converts.
by Geetesh Talajia on Oct 10, 2008 10:34 AM
Riten, I am a very small guy to prove a religion to be called right or wrong. But I can give you an perfect example of people in our religion "at peace" : Swami Vivekanand who represented India in the foreign land on the stand of Hinduism. If u can remember all the people just gave him an standing obession for more than 5 mins when he started his speech on Hinduism.
Secondly speaking on the right path Swami Vivekanands master (His Guru) Shri Ramkrishna Paramhans said that all the religions are different ways to reach the supreme. I think you have got your answers. If not come & alsong with your queries I am open to remove odd's from your brain& your heart.
Re: kerala converts.
by Peace Out on Oct 10, 2008 11:29 AM
Sure, I guess you are right. For a person to have faith in a higher power, one must seek out a towel head in the middle east or some semi nazi white guy and listen to their preference on representing a higher power. And when you are at it, you might as well take on names that are preferred in their back yards. Yes, I am sure the lord whol made this world and universe preferred such a narrow and strict approach to appealing to him.
Re: Re: kerala converts.
by Geetesh Talajia on Oct 10, 2008 10:02 AM
Mr/Miss/Mrs NMKN, Wel come to the forum. No 1 if the people who are converted wants to come back to hinduism they are welcomed back to home. We are broad minded & dont do any chep things to people converted.
Now secondly why people change their faiths? It is not cause our faiths are rediculous. If you are not aware let me enlighten you dear. I know as you are non-hindu you wont realise faith in stones & faith in animals. I have question for you. Do you have faith in your parents word that they are your parents? Or you have carried a DNA test for the same. I dont think so you have done a DNA test & then belived that they are your parents. So faith is not logical but it is a belief. If you will not belive in stones you should not belive in wood. What is the logic beliving in wood. Lord Jesus deity is on the wood. Why you pray his daity. His daity is also made up of wood. So the point here is people dont change their religion becaise their faith is less in a religion. It is because christian's from Vatican supply money to christian missonaries in India to conver people from hiduism to christanity. They take un due advantage of their half know knowledge take advantage of their poor financial situation & make them convert religion by providing them with money which they have received from foreign land. If you have guts reply back.
Have they not seperated Indians enough-ALL religion body is urgently needed by LAW to channel money NOT on basis of certain religion, but fund go to all needy.
Setup an 'ALL RELIGION body' to make it LEGAL to channel all funds including missionary funds, Dals funds and Middle-East money to help the needy(not for specific religion, but to all religion/faith). Why funding IS RELIGION BASED WHEN WE ARE ALL INDIAN?? Have they not seperated Indians enough? We have Pakistan, Bangal and many division in India already.
NEED a LAW to SETUP AN ALL RELIGION BODY. All the missionary and money from radical orgs is channeled to the needy WITHOUT THE CONVERSION rider attached with that money!! Conversion is agression according to some religions and Buddism considers agression as violence.
Sharing the blessing, the radical organizations need to also know peace and about the economic violence
With certain radical organizations in India, they are funded by a section that hoards and does economic violence.
This is where we need the Buddist Golden Mantra for world peace, sharing, non-conversion and healing.
Time to spread the peacful golden sutra mantra of non-conversion and need for healing touch.
We need to tell those who are converting and those who are convering them about power of healing, power of prayer for all including the enemy. The economic victims also need to know about Buddist non-conversion golden mantra for themselves and for world healing
Re: Have they not seperated Indians enough-ALL religion body is urgently needed by LAW to channel money NOT on basis of certain religion, but fund needy
by D S on Oct 10, 2008 05:47 AM
The fat cat sects and fat cats among certain religions will oppose ONE CHANNEL to fund for all religions and the "no religion" NEEDY
As written above, Indian have been seperated enough, but these fat cats will block when they hear " ALL religion body is urgently needed by LAW to channel money NOT on basis of certain religion, but to all needy " they will come with wierd logic of freedom and thus the fat cat's will keep the violence (economic and physical violence )as is, thus conversion agression will carry on with few appeasing statements. Economic violence is done by certain "hoarding and selfish money class" among Hindu, Jains, Sikhs, etc. So does use of money to convert an economic violence as well.
BIG LAW for channeling all "funds and infrastructure" not on religion/sect basis and is for ALL Indians irrespective of religion and with NO conversion/subversion rider will NOT be an EASY happening.
Quite the same with direct election by people of PM and CM without MP's and MLA controlled by ticket distribution and money . So Indians see if congress and bjp top leaders will really go an extra mile on religion and politics to bring peace to indians.
Time to spread the peaceful golden buddist sutra mantra of non-conversion and need for healing touch to all including the enemies.
With rampant muslim population growth and conversion, we'll soon see Hindu's being cornered(We are already seeing that), UPA is a good example of weakening Hindu dynamics of India, UPA leaders doesn't fear in making anti hindu or anti national statements, Amar Singh, Paswaan, Laloo, Sonia are openly siding the terrorists it's not too far when we see another division of India
Re: India heading for another division
by Riten on Oct 10, 2008 10:27 AM
As per the same govt data, you are lying. Not to talk of the infiltrations from bangladesh
Hinduism has been a tolerant religion and should continue to be so. Conversions through deceit and foreigh funds is the birth right of Christianity. It should be allowed. Another round of Portugese inquisition, Hindu Kush episodes or the Ghazni/Ghori murderous tyranny should be faced with stoic calm by the Hindus.
Re: Conversions
by SIlentLover on Oct 10, 2008 08:48 PM
Kush means 'murder' (better is 'cide') like Khudkushi - self murder or suicide. Hindukush means mass murder of hindus, selective genocide of hindus.
Re: The real terrorist
by kalu on Oct 10, 2008 01:53 AM
Does Advani really represent the Indian culture? Indian culture is embibed with sanatana dharma and for years we respected all faiths. People like Advani who needed an issue to bring there unknown entity at national stage founded the devilish strategy to divide the people. He definitely fooled his followers as well on the name Ram. Pl think, don't get into the trap of such opportunistic politicians who are ruining the nation.
In this lecture is there any mention of Roits, Rapes, Loot, Raj Dharma, Misdeeds of RSS/ VHP/ BD/ BJP? What are the ways Advani can curb these? And is he not the pioneer of all these? The real terrorist?
The secular fabric fo the country is in tatters, lawlessness and unrest is fast rising, poison of division and hatred is being spread by the enemy within. Its time th epeople come together and show these radical and opportunistic elements the place they deserve.
Re: The real terrorist
by sivaram on Oct 10, 2008 09:26 AM
kalu, please see what sonia gandhi has to do with freedom fight, or his sons or her husband has to do with freedom fight.What is the role of Manmohan singh. But I can tell you lot of leaders who fought for the country are living in inhumane condition. So first change your attitude towards politics. Politics is here to govern the people in good path. But from day one Jawharlal nehru destroyed social fabric by insulting hindus and it continued till date. Now once people react violently then you so called secularist shouts. WHY ?
Re: The real terrorist
by Indian Indian on Oct 10, 2008 02:07 AM
Kalu, By God's grase Advani ji is certainly going to our Next PM I guess you should make arrengements for your Suici.de, with the kind of hatred you have for him I don't see you can survive 5 years seeing his as our PM..Please start writing a will etc. and by the way your intellectual sardar is not going to give congress more than 30 seats in next elections
Re: The real terrorist
by kalu on Oct 10, 2008 01:41 AM
Advani has no commendable and praise worthy achievement during his tenure as Home Minister. And in this speech he is claiming that "the problem of terrorism has persisted for nearly half the period of the life of independent India.". The fact is that the problem of terrorism in In India started immediately after its independance when Nathuram Godse,a RSS cadre and the same RSS of which Advani is proud of ,assassinated Mahatma Gandhi in 1948.Advani has conviniently sidleined this fact of terrorism.
The current string of serial blasts since the last 2-3 years is engineered and executed by the Sangh cadres to spread terror and communal divide in the country. Sangh cadres have been found in posession of bombs in several cases during this period and that is ample proof of the fact. This mouth piece of the Sangh Parivar is talking about uprooting terrorism after coming to power. The very terrorism that he is a part of. So is he going to ban the RSS, VHP, the Bajrang Dal, Shri Ram Sena, Hindu Munnani, Hindu Jagran Manch, Yuva [Images] Hindu Vahini, Hindu Janajagruti Samiti and Durga Vahini etc.? This is another bunch of lies from him to come of power a second time after having betrayed his followers the first time.
The need of the hour is for the citizens and intellects from all religions to come together and defeat the devilish intentions of this terror kingpin. The countries secular credentials and communal harmony must be maintained at all costs.
Re: The real terrorist
by teluguking on Oct 10, 2008 07:34 AM
we hope that some terrorist jehadi plants a bomb in your city and takes your hand or leg. Then you will come to your senses as to who is responsible. Rascal.
Pseudo-secular & anti-national leaders like Amar singh, lalu yadav, mulayam singh, arjun singh should be first shot dead to get the country out of this mess.
