Re: try understanding Islam
by ravi shankar on Oct 07, 2008 08:06 AM
why should we try to understand islam?
its better you guys understand the greatness of hinduism ..
The truth is that inspite of so many religions coming up (mushrooming like political parties) Hinduism never lost out.
on the other hand its a tribute to the greatness of hinduism that it allows such free will and free thought that one can follow whatever his heart dictates. thats how all the other religions that are born in india came into existence..
U dont have gut to read the details of Quran and Hadees, you guys will never believe that what ever scince u r seeing today has already mentioned in Quran. every new invention of science is done in the light of quran and Hadees
Re: Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by syed husain on Oct 07, 2008 04:16 AM
open up quran and hadees and learn the meaning of Jiad... today Media has manipulated real meaning of Jihad... u innocent ppl what ever media shows...
Re: Re: Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by Hitesh Tiwary on Oct 07, 2008 04:39 AM
Better to learn the meaning of jihad with the present situations all over the world by terrorist who clearly says the meaning of jihad....
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by syed husain on Oct 07, 2008 04:14 AM
no one makes suicide bomber, we atleast dont rape any nuns or any other sister...
and the best part is it is never prooved that terrorism is done by muslims.. its just that what media shows u.. u ppl accept it... so innocent u guys are...
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by ravi shankar on Oct 07, 2008 08:07 AM
What is but the story of muslim invasions across the world other than murder, rape and plunder?
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by Hitesh Tiwary on Oct 07, 2008 04:38 AM
Tum toh aise baat kar rahe ho ki....muslim doodh ke dhoole hue log hai....hahahaha
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by Hindustani on Oct 07, 2008 07:10 AM
thanks.... they y cant u just copy all those and give it at a shot.. rather than us waiting for some scientist to invent????
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 04:15 AM
HUSSAIN, THEY WILL NEVER HEAR IT. BCOS:
ALBAKARA CHAPTER 2 [2:2]This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah;
[2:6]As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. [2:7]Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
Re: Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by syed husain on Oct 07, 2008 04:18 AM
very true bro... but really we cant stand like this if anyone abuses Islam.. its our duty to atleast pass them right knowledge..
Re: Re: Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by syed husain on Oct 07, 2008 04:21 AM
and my dear non muslimbrother... do open up ur Vedas(4 Ved) read it properly.. and then u will come to know the importance of Islam... many of the things is clearly mentioned in Vedas... u ppl dont read ur own books.. so sad abt it...
Re: Re: Re: Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by Hitesh Tiwary on Oct 07, 2008 04:42 AM
if many thing is written in vedas then why you follows islam...why don`t you follow original than following the copy version....
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by syed husain on Oct 07, 2008 04:52 AM
becoz quran is th final book sent by allah... where everything is accumulated... vedas have the supported verses towards truthness of quran and prophet(PBUH)
Re: U guys will never understand Islam
by Sanjay Jamdade on Oct 07, 2008 04:42 AM
I agree that it is sad. but tell me about the Nirakar Bhagwan source.
Every religion of the world has been named either after the name of its founder or after the community and nation in which that religion took its birth. For instance, Christianity takes its appellation from the name of its prophet Jesus Christ; Zoroastrians from its founder Zoroaster; and Judaism, the religion of the Jews, from the name of the tribe Judah (of the country of Judea) wherein it took its birth. Similar is the case with other religions. But not so with Islam. This religion enjoys the unique distinction of having no such association with any particular person or people. The word ‘Islam’ does not confer any such relationship-for it does not belong to any particular person, people, or country. It is neither the product of any human mind nor is it confined to any particular community. It is a universal religion and its objective is to create and cultivate in man the quality and attitude of Islam.
Islam, as a matter of fact, is an attributive title. Whosoever possesses this attributive, may he belong to any race, community, country, or clan, is a Muslim. According to the Quran (the Holy Book of the Muslims), among every people and in all ages there have been good and righteous people who possessed this attribute of them were and are Muslims.
This automatically brings us to the question: What does Islam mean? And who is a Muslim?
Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:56 AM
New the whole of this existence is an embodiment of, in all spheres of life, he voluntarily as well as involuntarily obeys the laws of the same One God with the whole universe for he worships Him whom the whole world is for him and he is for God.
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Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:55 AM
Islam - What Does it Mean?
‘Islam’ is an Arabic word and connotes submission, surrender, and obedience As a religion, Islam stands for complete submission and obedience to Allah and that is why it is called ‘ISLAM’. Everyone can see that the universe we live in is an orderly universe. There is law and order among all the units that comprise this universe. Everything is assigned a place in a grand scheme, which is working in a magnificent and superb way. The sun, the moon, the stars and in fact all the heavenly bodies are knit together in a splendid system. They follow an unalterable law and do not make even the slightest deviation from their ordained course. The earth rotates on its own axis and in its revolution round the sun scrupulously follows the path laid down for it. Similarly, everything in the world, from the little whirling electron to the mighty nebulae, invariably follows its own laws. Matter energy, and life-all obey their laws and grow and change and live and die in accordance with those laws. EVEN in the human world the laws of nature are quite manifest. Man's birth, growth, and life are all regulated by a set of biological laws. He derives sustenance from nature in Accordance with an unalterable law. All the organs of his body from the small tissues to the heart and the brain are governed by the laws prescribed for them. In Short, ours is a law-governed universe and everything in it is following the course that has been ordained for it.
Re: islam
by Sajjad Basheer on Oct 07, 2008 04:13 AM
did it require a dna test to confirm your father..no is the obvious answer.ponder on this .u ll get an answer
Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:55 AM
This powerful, all-pervasive law, which governs all that comprises the universe, from the tiniest specks of dust to the magnificent galaxies in high heavens, is the law of God, the creator and ruler of the universe. As the entire creation obeys the law of God, the whole universe, therefore, literally follows the religion of Islam-for Islam signifies nothing but obedience and submission to Allah, the Lord of the universe. The sun, the moon, the earth, and all other heavenly bodies are thus ‘Muslim’. So is the case with air, water, and heat, stones, trees, and animals. Everything in the universe is ‘Muslim’ for it obeys God by submission to his laws. Even a man who refuses to believe in God, or offers his worship to someone other than Allah has perforce to be a ‘Muslim’ as far as his bodily existence is concerned. For his entire life, from the embryonic stage to the body’s dissolution info dust after death, and every tissue of his muscles and every limb of his body follow the course prescribed for each by God’s law. His very tongue which, on account of his ignorance, advocates the denial of God or professes multiple deities, is in its very nature a ‘Muslim’. His head which he wantonly bows to other besides Allah is a born Muslim. His heart wherein, through his lack of true knowledge, he cherishes love and reverence for others, is ‘Muslim’ by intuition. These are all obedient to the divine Law, and their functions and movements are governed by the injunctions of that law alone.
Re: islam
by prashant on Oct 07, 2008 03:59 AM
This is all crap--> an attempt to control slaves of 6th centuary.Why believe an ordinary man. Why dont GOD who created me and loves me soo much come?
Re: Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 04:07 AM
prashant if god comes to u in the form of man, will u call call him god or man. if u change circle to rectangle shape, will u still say rectangle is circle?
Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:56 AM
This, in short, is the real position of man and the universe. Let us now examine the problem in a different light. Man is so constituted that there are two aspects of his life: two distinct spheres of his activity. One is the sphere in which he finds himself totally regulated by the Divine Law. He cannot budge an inch or move a step away from it. Nor can he evade it in any way or from. In fact, like other creatures, he is completely caught in the grip of the law of nature and is bound to follow it. But there is another sphere of his activity as well. He has been endowed with reason and intellect. He has the power to think and form judgments, to choose and reject, and to adopt and spurn. He is free to adopt whatever course of life chooses. He can embrace any faith, adopt any way of life and formulate his living according to whatever ideologies he likes. He may prepare his own code of conduct or accept one formulated by others. He has been bestowed with free will and can chalk out his own course of behavior. In this latter aspect, he, unlike the other creatures, has been given freedom of thought, choice, and action.Both these aspects distinctly co-exist in man’s life. In the first he, like all other creatures, is a born Muslim, invariably obeys the injunctions of God, and is bound to remain so. As far as the second aspect is concerned, he is free to become or not to become a Muslim.
Re: islam
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:56 AM
Here he has been given the freedom of choice-and it is the way a person exercises this freedom, which divides mankind into two groups: believers and non-believers. An individual who chooses to acknowledge his creator, accepts Him as his real Master, honestly and scrupulously submits to His laws and injunctions and follows the code He has revealed unto man for his individual and social life, thereby becomes a perfect Muslim. He has, so to say, achieved completeness in his Islam by consciously deciding to obey God in the domain in which he was endowed with freedom and choice. Now his entire life has become one of submission to God and there is no conflict in his personality. He is a perfect Muslim and his Islam is complete-for this submission of his entire self to the will of Allah is Islam and nothing but Islam. He has now consciously submitted to Him whom he had already been unconsciously obeying. He has now willingly offered obedience to the Master whom he already owed obedience unintentionally. His knowledge is now real for he has acknowledged the Being who endowed him with the power to learn and to know. Now his reason and judgment are set on an even keel-for he has rightly decided to obey the Being who bestowed upon him the faculty of thinking and judging. His tongue also is truthful for it expresses with conviction its confession of the Lord who gave it the faculty speech.
Re: FITNA
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 04:01 AM
i saw this video. creators of this video cries a lot for ga*ys and lesbi*ans. since u r propogating this video i have a doubt, r u hom*o too?
Re: FITNA
by Eye Opener on Oct 07, 2008 03:59 AM
why don;t u read bunchofthoughts in the internet where RSS says, they will do everything to kill muslims and christians of india.... if internet is filled wid knowledge, it is even filled wid bullshit also
Re: state owned terrorism - a documentary
by GGGiig on Oct 07, 2008 03:56 AM
Hooww maany VIRgiinn maale would you need too stopp propagatinggg this message????.......................
dear Muslim Friends,If ur religion promotes peace, then how come all terrorists caught for bombings in india and abroad turns out to be muslims??Give a proper answer.... are u all so blind????
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Divya on Oct 07, 2008 03:44 AM
now it must be difficult for heaven to accomodate so many virgins.... with lakhs of men becoming jihadis!!!
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Eye Opener on Oct 07, 2008 03:45 AM
Islam is a religion of peace. Whoever has a Muslim name and kills an innocent human is not a Muslim. There is no place for him in Islam. I can;t blame Hindusim for wat RSS, VHP and Bajrandal are doing. I can;t blame christanity for what Hitler, British (as done to India) or Gergeo Bush has done and doing. So don;t involve the the so called Muslim names in to Islam. If those muslim named person are not punished in this world, God is witness he will punish them in hell and everytime his skin in roasted in hell, he will be given a skin so that he can feel the pain again and again. Allah bless all
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by GGGiig on Oct 07, 2008 03:48 AM
its alsoo when they explodee their skinn alongg with Peeniis .... becomess ashh.... they can only see viirginns after that ????? like aahmedd thee terrroristt... look up on youtubee
Re: Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Eye Opener on Oct 07, 2008 03:55 AM
GGGiig....Youtube has lot of videos of different different crimes... Even youtube has videos which says the world trade center was blown up by bush... Youtube has vides which says godhra was done by modi... Youtube has vidoes which says advani was the guy who made up the story of babri masjid... So youtube is not the chosen one in this world...
Re: Re: why do u kill so many people?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:52 AM
if hitler is not christians, if any muslim named person do something like that is not a muslim.
Re: Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Eye Opener on Oct 07, 2008 03:52 AM
Bush is also atheist...All the british who ruled india where athesist.....So that means who ever has created a crime and killed innocent humans are atheist ..Rest everybody are muslims
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by GGGiig on Oct 07, 2008 03:46 AM
buttt you aloong withh aallaah hass sympathyy.... for ....terroristss..... stoneagee...cult
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Eye Opener on Oct 07, 2008 03:50 AM
A crime is a crime and a terrorit is a terrorist. No sympathy. A human being will show some sympathy to human when he created a crime, but Allah will never. His place is in Hell.
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:40 AM
if a person who planted a bomb and they themself is catching others and puting blame on others. do u say our police is honest and never bribe ? is our films shows wrong things? if so u have to fight against such movies who misguiding our system and india.
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Divya on Oct 07, 2008 03:42 AM
so u say that... no muslims are involved i bom blasts and terrorist activities.....!!!! and everything is made up by police!!
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:47 AM
ofcourse!!! its bollywood style of 9/11
INSPIRED BY TRUE EVENT OF 9/11 FROM THE MAKERS OF 9/11 WORLD TRADE CENTRE ATTACKS BJP PRESENTS INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN AKA INDIAN SERIAL BLASTS DIRECTED AND PRODUCED BY SANGPARIWAR SCRIPT BY ISRAEL EXECUTIVE PRODUCER BY USA STARRING: NARENDAR MODI, ADVANI, ASHOK SINGAL, BAL THACKARAY ESTIMATED COLLECTION: 300 LOK SABHA SEATS
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by GGGiig on Oct 07, 2008 03:50 AM
allaaahh knowwws who did it.... he offeerss themm 72... Virrginss.... donot worry broother
Re: Re: why do u kill so many people?
by Divya on Oct 07, 2008 03:49 AM
POOR INNOCENT BIN lADEN... POOR FELLOW! GOT FRAMED FOR NO REASON... POOR SAUDI SHEPHERD BOY! HAHAHAH...... AXXO, GO HANG URSELF.... AND GET UR 72!!
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 04:10 AM
where is bin laden now? where is alqeeda now? whenever they want they can put these names.
Re: why do u kill so many people?
by GGGiig on Oct 07, 2008 03:43 AM
becarefull....axxo indiann policee is catching jiihaddi's via...indirect methods....like ur messages on innternet.... if they cattch you aaalllaah will be hellpless.... narco..test and all ...you would go throughh.... allaah will be watchinggg....
Re: Re: why do u kill so many people?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:48 AM
r u making fear? Im only afraid of ALLAH(GOD OF christians,hindus,jews,muslims,animals,and all universe).
Re: Which book in this world read mostly?
by ramen das on Oct 07, 2008 03:39 AM
obviously...when the muslims reproducts like ants they'll definitely have the numbers... but 100 fulls don't make one intelligent man...
Re: Re: Which book in this world read mostly?
by axxo on Oct 07, 2008 03:44 AM
ramen, are u people impotents? or u people have problm with reproduction? mostly i hear this problm. better to consult physicians.not on board. if u r male or female, u should have that capabilities. dont shout that u dont have that capabilities and muslims have that. it will again degrades hinduism.
