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Obama's Rise and Rise: Camelot or Bust?


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Take off the Article
by on Feb 28, 2008 02:14 PM  | Hide replies

I completely disagree with rajeev srinivasan, This Is racism at it's height. If the writer was an White American it may have been taken that yes he is baised.
But rajeev name sounds INDIAN, he is simply saying too much to digest. Being so Anti-Islamic in his views he is simply degrading indian Values. I fully denounce what he wrote. Appeal To editor dnt allow racism from ur site, Freedom of voice is good to the extend when views are not published like an EDITORIAL in REDIFF. It's too bad.
And rajeev see the rules first, Gore for president? where from. Primaries are almost over. Popular votes win the day not racist people like you. Rediff's my home page but this is my first post ever. I fully ashamed of this article.

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Rohini Shivanna
RE:Take off the Article
by Rohini Shivanna on Feb 29, 2008 12:58 PM
What is racis in this? I am a little surprised. Becaused this is the first time Rajeev has written and article where there is no racism. He usually hates Indians and extolls Aryans. For the first time in the history of his writings, he hasn't done that. And you call him a racist? Very bad.

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Quacker Oats
Democratic Drama .
by Quacker Oats on Feb 28, 2008 01:35 PM  | Hide replies

Dont worry Republicans will win.Hllary & Obama will go into international History books.

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Nirpinder Singh
RE:Democratic Drama .
by Nirpinder Singh on Feb 29, 2008 08:47 AM
Yeah! Nixon my main man and Kissinger.

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Shharad Gotecha
re-Muslims in INdia - my earlier message - correction
by Shharad Gotecha on Feb 28, 2008 01:32 PM  | Hide replies

Errarta
In the fourth line -- In case some terrorist act takes place we do not go for each other's blood but hust regret it."
Please read as above and so on................

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Nirpinder Singh
RE:re-Muslims in INdia - my earlier message - correction
by Nirpinder Singh on Feb 29, 2008 08:49 AM
You have a good attitude. Spread it around.

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Shharad Gotecha
Re Muslims in India
by Shharad Gotecha on Feb 28, 2008 01:30 PM  | Hide replies

I am a hindu and have 4 muslim friends. We eat together and pass good time together. How can some one say that they are opressed. We visit each other's house, attend unctions, pass good time and share feelings. And in case some one plots some terrerist activity any where in India or any other place that we vye for each other's blood. Ofcourse Politics and the so called Vote Bankdominates this. So it is better for them to realise mymuslim bretheren that they are being made scapegoat and therfore should act cautiously in future.

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Hyderabad Contact
RE:Re Muslims in India
by Hyderabad Contact on Feb 28, 2008 01:35 PM
Mr Sharad, its not your emotionals feeling towards your friends its the numbers which proof Indian Muslims are systemically oppressed, go and check the number why muslims are not employed according to their population ? specially in governemnt sector ? Muslims dosent make even 2% of that ? this is just one example.

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Hyderabad Contact
RE:Re Muslims in India
by Hyderabad Contact on Feb 28, 2008 01:50 PM
another Idiot, how come a community which represent 40% of Jobs under British become illetrate over night? mind the same community rule successfully India for more than 500 years ? even today in Kerala a Muslim village is first in India to claim total literacy, in AP Muslims are more litrate than Hindus (government figures), as far so called "terrorists" its all made up of the impotent police, this goons cannot catch a common theif, its all porven how Indian police stage encountrs and how they make stories to get promotions.

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mudamosi
RE:RE:Re Muslims in India
by mudamosi on Feb 29, 2008 04:40 PM
>>how come a community which represent 40% of Jobs under British become illetrate over night?

You haven't factored in the partition. Muslims lost a good portion of the educated elite and middle class during the partition. This stifled their growth to a large extent.

Instead of quoting one off instances perhaps you could check for over all literacy % in muslims in India. Also, remember even a 5th standard drop-out who can read and write qualifies to be a literate person. Is he eligible for a government job? The question is do they have the necessary skill set.
>>as far so called "terrorists" its all made up of the impotent police, this goons cannot catch a common theif, its all porven how Indian police stage encountrs and how they make stories to get promotions.

This is an ostrich like attitude. Much akin to blaming the jews for 9/11. The problem of terrorism exists and by your argument, it is not just the Indian police, but police forces all over the world. Wake up and smell the coffee. Instead of blaming x,y and z realise your follies and try to over come them.

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Rah Was
RE:Re Muslims in India
by Rah Was on Feb 28, 2008 05:53 PM
Dear Mr. Hyderabad Contact,
Being literate and being eligible enough to be at a govt. post are two different things. In the Kerala village which you say has achieved 100 % literacy (Malappuram Dist. as a whole) has about 80 % of the Muslim guys taking up their education to 12th and then leaving it for good to go over to Gulf regions. So for the statistics there are so and so number of "literate muslims", but the fact is that majority of them are not up to the level of having a representation at the govt. level. And for the fact, the lac of representation in the govt. level does not also prove that they are not financially good. I can assure that more than 80 % of the muslim population in Malappuram are in quiet a well-to-do situation even though they doent have representation in govt. posts.

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Munir Khan
wtf?
by Munir Khan on Feb 28, 2008 01:24 PM

Dude, where do you get this psycho idea of Gore going on to get the Democratic ticket??? shooting off just like that, ah? total crackpot. it doesn't work like that! Obama or Clinton will get the top ticket and they can choose a running mate( which i think _could_ be edwards)

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Nirpinder Singh
Obama's Rise and Rise: Camelot or Bust?
by Nirpinder Singh on Feb 28, 2008 01:15 PM

Hem! Hem! Considering everything in totality it seems that not much is going to change after the election no matter who wins! India will do well to sit on the nuclear deal. Perhaps with time Indian Scientists will develop indigenous technology.

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Shharad Gotecha
RE:Ahmed
by Shharad Gotecha on Feb 28, 2008 01:25 PM
I don't thibk there is a hue and cry in the world over Obama's advancement. It is good that skin color is not a domianting factor any more nor is religion. SO far as muslims in India is concerned, it is due to some of the bad element therin who in the name of jihad opt for bloodshed and are ruining the prestige of their own brethern. Had this not been true there had not been any reason to blame muslim. Just go through the records and you will have the truth. Now don't say that some one has taken a muslim name and has done all these.

The mentality has to be corrected. The Muslims are more protected in India than in any country in the world. They get preference which is an open fact. Being in the mainstream and if some one out of them go berserk and in the name of freedom go for terrerist activities then themselves have to be blamed. It is wrong to say that they are opressed and are being dominated by other community or people from other religion. IN India a muslim had become The President. Before that also there had been Muslim Presidents - the HIghest Authority in the country. So HOW CAN THEN YOU SAY THAT IN INDIA PEOPLE ARE OR IN YOUR OWN WORDS MAJORITY IS AGAINST THEM. Though Gandhism still prevails here but there is a limit of everything. If human targets human and properties and spoiling national character one has to pay and has to pay. Why mercy. IN the process, it is also true that some innocent people also become victim. But you cannot blame. aatte ke saath dhum bhj

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Nirpinder Singh
RE:RE:RE:Ahmed
by Nirpinder Singh on Feb 29, 2008 08:56 AM
What you are talking about is a throwback to the imperial times. The Hindu Kingdoms were fragmented and at odds with each other therefore Muslim invaders could overcome them. After the establishment of Muslim Sultanates the Hindus who were previously free to practice their religion as they wished felt oppressed so there was internal strife in the Nation. The English took advantage of this and overcame both the Muslims and the Hindus. When the Hindus and Muslims (along with Sikhs Jains and Buddhists) united again they were succesful in convincing the British to grant freedom to a now united India. However the Hindus and Muslims had a falling out again over the division of power resulting in the creation of Pakistan. Now Hindus and Muslims are a perpetual thorn in each others flesh not realizing that we are indeed all humans and that God has no caste creed or religion.

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Aatmaram
RE:Ahmed
by Aatmaram on Feb 28, 2008 01:23 PM
Muslims were never oppressed in India. Kalam is a Muslim, but he is a gentleman. Infact, most politician do bootlicking of Muslims to preserve their vote bank.

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Ashok Gupta
RE:Ahmed
by Ashok Gupta on Feb 28, 2008 01:25 PM
Mr Khan
The opressed are normally weak if a people are opressed they must rise to the level of the opressors and I dont mean by warfare. It is only by accomplishments and education and reasoning and change that this can be done. It is a slow process but a sure process which will yield results. The nature of us humans is to subjucate and take what is not ours. Take a look around and see the state the world is in and perhaps you will agree. We try to subjucate by force or by political means or religious means or by offering incentives. Wars are still being fought over nothing and we call it idealism. Rather confusing and stupid dont you think ?

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Christy Uthup
Rajeev Sreenivasan
by Christy Uthup on Feb 28, 2008 12:55 PM  | Hide replies

How does Rediff allow such a non entity write tripe like this

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LOL
RE:Rajeev Sreenivasan
by LOL on Feb 28, 2008 01:15 PM
I dont think that is a very polite remark. I read the article and it does make sense. The author did a lot of study to compare the strengths and weaknesses of Obama and also addresses the potential fall outs in present day American politics.

As they say people have a right to express what they feel. Compared to several other articles that appear in rediff, this one is lot better of.

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Munir Khan
RE:Rajeev Sreenivasan
by Munir Khan on Feb 28, 2008 01:25 PM
the crap was in the 'Gore' part of the write up? how the hell does this writer think Gore will end up with top ticket?????

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