"HINDUISM as a faith is vague, amorphous, many sided, all things to all men. It is hardly possible to define it, or indeed to say definitely whether it is a religion or not, in the usual sense of the word. In its present form, and even in the past, it embraces many beliefs and practices, from the highest to the lowest, often opposed to or contradicting each other."
RE:Hinduism
by vivek nair on Feb 24, 2008 12:57 PM
But Islam has given only terrorisom for the world.It is a religion made only for man to enjoy the women sexually.
RE:Hinduism
by sriram sriram sriram on Feb 24, 2008 12:51 PM
This can be said about every Religion including the concept of God. What kind of a vague case are you trying to make here..??
Vague or Certain Hinduism has shown the path to many mis-guided Muslims also...
But Islam one can only pity its followers stuck in the 7th centurey..
Hinduism' is merely a legalised form of slavery to the Brahmin race. It is not a religion, but a cancer and a disease that must be fought at all costs if this world is to survive. The plagues of Nazism and Totalitarianism, which have claimed more than 200 million lives this century alone, have their roots in Brahmanism, the former having been originated by Pandit Manu, and the latter by Pandit Kautilya. The death and destruction, the sheer human misery caused by Huinduism has already exceeded that which would be caused by a full-scale nuclear holocaust. The Ramayana and the Mahabharat are no doubt GREAT stories, but they are also stories that belong to India's ancient past. We cannot scientifically or factually prove the authenticity of these tales, and as such, we cannot accept Hinduism as a religion
RE:IS HINDUISM IS A RELIGION
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 12:54 PM
Fascist Islam is facing the wrath of all sane people. All ex-Muslims are turning to Hinduism and Budhism for refuge..
the casteist mentality of Ashraf-Ajlaf is a case in point...dalit muslims continue to be persecuted and the clowns who beleived in Jinnahs lies are called mojahirs....poor fellows
2 Does Hinduism have the answers for today%u2019s problems? Alcoholism - Drugs- Divorce - Suicide etc.
3 To these gods move, think or speak?
4 Can they defend themselves if attacked; or mend themselves if broken?
5 Don't you think it foolish to worship these manmade objects? 6 Does India belong to the Indians (95 %) or the Brahmins (5%)?
7 Did Hinduism originate in India itself or did it come with the Aryans via the Khyber Pass?
8 Can a person convert and become a Brahmin?
9 What is the relationship between the Aryans of India (Brahmins) and the Aryans of Germany (Hitler's Nazis)?
10 Why do the Brahmins and Nazis have the same symbol - the Swastika? (Look at the racist National Front symbols in South Africa).
11 Ask yourself who is your God? Is it Shiva, who has the moon and river Ganges on his head and who could not identify his own son? Or is it Rama who couldn't see through Sukrievan's disguise and who murdered another god? Or could it be Krishna, the "playboy god"?
RE:WHAT HINDUISM GIVEN
by vadivel kumar on Feb 24, 2008 01:06 PM
Anwers for your questions MIM
1)Hinduism have given the method of living Hinduism have teached discipline Hinduism is serving food to poor people thro Temples and Madas 2)Yes.Medidtation and Praying God 3)No God will move or Speak.Is ALLAH,JESUS or BUDDHA speaking to you now.If yes,can you tape and release. 4)All living things even the animals and the insects will attack back if they are attacked.I hope that you agree hindus are human beings and will attck.You can test this by attacking a Hindu 5)GOD is not Manmade.According to HINDU the nature is GOD.They pray SON,Water etc., 6.NO.HIndus never tell that INDIA belong to them we like to have other relogion in our country. Do you think HINDUS are only brahmins?? 7.IT is unkown as Hinduism have long history than any other religion 8.Yes.Any body can be converted into any religion if they like 9.Both are Human Beings 10.Why you are wearing the same underwear which hindus and the people are wearing.Is there is any connection.your question seems like that 11.Atleast hindu have the right to Work ship the GOD they like.Each God have thier own charcters for which you have to go thro the books if you need the explantion.You can have the history of each and every God. VAALI and RAVNA was killed by RAMA as they have did the mistakes.KRISHNA is beautiful so all the Girls liked her.About SIVA read the history So,there is no contrast
RE:What Hinduism given
by Indian on Feb 24, 2008 12:52 PM
Contrary to your intention of maligning Hinduism, your questions are so, so laughable it is incredible!
If you are an Indian - which I doubt, your utter ignorance of the 5000 year old civilization is shameful to say the least!
Just for eg, swastika's is as old as Hinduism and its importance is written in the book Davinci code. Even Buddha's staues have the swastika on his chest (2000 years ago) and you think he was a Nazi who just adopted the symbol less than a century ago!
Your pea sized brain perhaps has been so brain washed you perhaps cannot see any other color - but green?
Yesterday i had an oppurtunity to see the THUKLAK function where i was able to hear Mr.Cho Ramasamy's Speech in front of Mr.Modi who is the role model chief minster. I wil bring the essences of Mr.Cho's Speech about terrorism Growth during Congress Period. "Congress is relaxing all the laws against terrorists to get Muslims Votes. Infact they are connecting terrorists to Islam. IF they take tough steps against Terrorists who are happened to be Muslims sadly,they think that they will loose the vote bank of Muslims.They have given life prisonment to Afzal who is related to Parliament attack and they have abolished"POTA". This shows that they are being soft on terrorists to get Muslim votes.Only few people in Muslim community are in the terrorist Groups.But Major part of muslims loves this Country and ready to do anything for the sake of the country. This was not understood by the Congress sadly and they think all Muslims will encourage Terrorists just beacause they are from their religion . So,unless until BJP comes to Power with full majority these type of Security concerns will be there and this will get worse and worse everyday the congress rules.If the law becomes severe,the people will fear of loosing thier lives if they caught of doing terrorist activities" So,Politician pl don't let the conuntry and the people of Country down by encouraging terrorist to be in the power. This will effect you and your family as well in Some time
RE:Soft Stand on Terrorists by Congress who is letting INDIA Down
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:47 PM
The biggest terrorist attck in india were the gujrat riots and 84 riots ..(in terms of no. of people killed) both were done by hindus in a preplanned way and then justice was denied to victims systematically...
RE:Soft Stand on Terrorists by Congress who is letting INDIA Down
by vivekanand on Feb 24, 2008 12:50 PM
There are so many police corps who misused POTA/TADA to extort money and to settle personal scores. Instead of investigating cases properly, they rushed to frame ppl in pota. thats why despite all the strictness of these laws, majority of accused were not found guilty and released later.
A responsinble corpse and agencies' personnel are must if we really want peaceful and harmanious society
RE:Soft Stand on Terrorists by Congress who is letting INDIA Down
by kumar rao on Feb 24, 2008 12:38 PM
Its because GREEN party of INDIA doesnt want INDIA to come out of poverty. Reason all Illetrate's can Vote them so that they can continue ruleing from NEHRU to gran grand grand grand son/daughter of NEHRU. but all buch of Jokers so called MP's of GREEN knows that they also cant become PM as long as they are in green party but they all can make Wealth...
Guys Stop this kill Hindu, kill Muslim nonsense. India and the world has enough space for everybody! Like history has shown nobody can kick out or eliminate any religion or race.
And if you are saying finish muslims you are falling right into the hands of the Pakis. They cannot do anything to India so they are recruiting some terrorits and trying to break the Indian secular frabic.
In this century the real war will be of ideologies. So we should ask ourselves do we want to build a society which is all inclusive, plural and secular (which is the TRUE INDIA) or one of hate like most of the Islamic world.
I'd say we'll WIN and with mercyless, brutal force but against the terrorists and not against any community!
wonder why muslims left crores of hindus alive during 500 hundred years of absolute mughal rule ??? If Islam had taught killing of non muslims there would not be a single non muslim alive in northern India?? But people blaming Islam today can't explain this???
RE:wonder why?
by Indian on Feb 24, 2008 12:29 PM
because they were too busy in mansNmadira...and if you see history they've almost destroyed our country....what has been left after they invaded INDIA...?
RE:wonder why?
by The Brain on Feb 24, 2008 12:33 PM
As per History, Mughal Rule was called the golden era of Indian History, This is what history tells and not me.
RE:RE:wonder why?
by Bharat Engineer on Feb 24, 2008 12:35 PM
The Brian ... they looted from the people and amassed lot of wealth.. .and ofcourse Gold.
RE:wonder why?
by The Brain on Feb 24, 2008 12:45 PM
then why mughal rule was called the GOLDEN ERA in Indian History? If you have more knowledge than you can go and challenge the Historians.
RE:RE:RE:RE:wonder why?
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:48 PM
sometimes u say mulims only want to caonvert hindus or kill them.. sumtimes u say they came to loot...dont u hav proper answers???
RE:wonder why?
by Praveen George on Feb 24, 2008 12:58 PM
Infact akbar was the most secular ruler in india. Our history is marred with invasions from all across the world , some of the things happened were quite bad, let us not pretend the invaders were all good, they destroyed the soul of india. but the anger certain people show against the minorities in india is stupid. Infact the minorities in india are the biggest victims of those invasions. I don't see what the point about this hinduvta is all about. Yes christianity and islam are defnite influences from the outside world,so are modern schools,computers. People get better by learning new things and not by being ignorant and saying -oh my right hand is the best right hand in the world and i created a wheel with it- while the rest of the world is travelling on flying cars
RE:wonder why?
by Bharat Engineer on Feb 24, 2008 12:34 PM
That's because of the resistance shown by Hindus and the power of Hinduism. Who said Mughal rule of absolute? They had to take help of Hindu kings from time to time. Whenever & wherever Muslim rule was absolute, they converted the whole population. Are there any original parsis living in Iran now? Were all the ppl in Afganistan, Pakistan & Bangladesh Muslims before they were converted by force or by bribe? What happened to the original cultures of Malaysia & Indonesia? The fact that we have so many Muslims in India now is because of the Muslim rule. By any chance, do you mean, the forefathers of the muslims in India voluntarily taken up Islam without force or incentive? Ha Ha Ha...
RE:RE:wonder why?
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:44 PM
bhai but ultimately muslims were ruling india??/ why didnt they attack remaining hindu kings and convert them?? If they would hav nbeen killed they would hav entered paradise??Y cant u expalin this??
RE:wonder why?
by kumar rao on Feb 24, 2008 12:46 PM
All MUSLIM's of INDIA/PAK are all converted to ISLAM by INVADERS. But GREEN party ensured that they get divided as PAK & INDIA & ruled this contry for 50 Years & ensured our Old HINDU Brothers(Now Muslims) dont get proper education
RE:RE:wonder why?
by The Brain on Feb 24, 2008 12:46 PM
Which mulsim force went to Indonesia and Malaysia to convert them. Spain was ruled for more than 800 years by Muslims, but now there are hardly any muslims left in Spain who were killed and trown out of the country by fanatic christians.
RE:RE:wonder why?
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:52 PM
then how did so many muslims came in southern india where mughals never went????????????????????????????????????
RE:wonder why?
by The Brain on Feb 24, 2008 12:56 PM
33% of the Aurangzeb forces were following Hindunims religion, this was the highest number ever in mughal history. Go and check your history.
RE:RE:wonder why?
by ramesh narayan deshpande on Feb 24, 2008 01:02 PM
Pasha,
If this is your thought process then we really have to think that you are terrorists and MUSLIMS ARE GOOD BUT YOUR RELIGION IS VERY BAD IT TEACHES YOU TO KILL I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS FOR YOUR QUERIES BUT NO TIME TO TYPE IT ALL
I JUST WANT TO ADD PASHSA YOU ARE CONVERTED MUSLIM AND WHO SAID MUGHALS DIDNT COME TO SOUA TH JUST VISIT HAMPI IN KARNATAKA YOU WILL UNDRSTAND
AND JIS THALI MEIN KHATE HON USME HAGO MAT YAAR TUM LOG..... I KNOW KUCH FAYIDA NAHIN
RE:RE:wonder why?
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:42 PM
muslims could hav killed hindus and entered heaven durin mughal rule? y didnt they?? ... u dont hav answer so r imagining???
RE:wonder why?
by MIM on Feb 24, 2008 12:48 PM
Hinduism' is merely a legalised form of slavery to the Brahmin race. It is not a religion, but a cancer and a disease that must be fought at all costs if this world is to survive. The plagues of Nazism and Totalitarianism, which have claimed more than 200 million lives this century alone, have their roots in Brahmanism, the former having been originated by Pandit Manu, and the latter by Pandit Kautilya. The death and destruction, the sheer human misery caused by Huinduism has already exceeded that which would be caused by a full-scale nuclear holocaust. The Ramayana and the Mahabharat are no doubt GREAT stories, but they are also stories that belong to India's ancient past. We cannot scientifically or factually prove the authenticity of these tales, and as such, we cannot accept Hinduism as a religion
RE:wonder why?
by kumar rao on Feb 24, 2008 12:31 PM
My Dear friend Pasha I agree with you. Its all done by GREEN part of India which ruled this contry for 50 Years & ensured all muslims can't come up in life. I Pitty them for Voteing Them. Why cant they Launch a PARTY called MUSLIM league & ensure all muslim's vote them. I am sure they can Join NDA to form Govt. & ensure justice to all MUSLIMS
RE:RE:wonder why?
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:51 PM
but it was green party of india tat fought against british rule...whereas the saffron party of india were the jasoos of the british to get indian freedom fighters arrested n killed by british..
RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by The Brain on Feb 24, 2008 12:48 PM
One,only has to look at the married life of Prophet and his wife Ayesha to realize how soulful and how compassionate they were towards each other.Ayesha never married any one after his death when she was just 20 at the prime of her youth
Now do 9 age women of yerster generations looked and behaved like the school kids of today?certainly not. If you look back in history,You will not be surprised to learn before few centuries ago that a girl of 9 years had a stamina,physical attributes and mental maturity of a teen age Woman.You can verify this just by asking at what age your grand mother got married , it certainly wont be more than 13 Even If the previous generation of women got into marriage as early as 13, you will now not be surprised 1400 years ago a 9 yrs old who attained puberty is not a Kid any more but a Woman.
RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by hardy rock on Feb 24, 2008 12:35 PM
in 2008, you are unable to write few lines of english properly after years of education..Go back to 600 AD and check for yourselves if all the text is man made and single handed creation... Lowest AIDS occurrance only in muslims and Jews. Olive Oil, Honey, Black seeds, camel milk have been found more effective than modern drugs against chronic diseases. What all you want to deny?
RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:29 PM
ha ha ha but alas muslims can't realize this and instead more and more are converting to islam. i dont understnd how crores of people r still following islam? Cant they see what others writing in this thread can see? How can so many people be such big fools :) Ha ha ha...
RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by pasha on Feb 24, 2008 12:32 PM
cant the geniouses writing bad things bout Islam convince muslims to change their religion?? Cant they make the muslims see what they can see?? I wonder whether all their Islam bashing has made a single muslim move away from Islam??
RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by hardy rock on Feb 24, 2008 12:30 PM
Ask this question to a baby, who is taken off his mother's milk and given away to a childless couple for few thousand Rs. No one can replace natural parents. Try it, u'll know.
RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by hardy rock on Feb 24, 2008 12:37 PM
yuou got it right Abhinav, you can feed an orphan without actually adopting him for your selfish needs. You adopt for support in old age, you feed and educate an orphan to do a good deed.
RE:RE:RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by hardy rock on Feb 24, 2008 12:51 PM
The natural parent feeds/ cares unconditionally.
Adoption is denying a child the natural love of parents.
RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Shahzad Sayed on Feb 24, 2008 02:53 PM
Islam doesn't not stop anyone from providing shelter or food for orphans. Rather, Islam has ordered people to take care of the orphans. Don't you read all these topics when you say you know much about Quran & Islam.
RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Ali boy on Feb 24, 2008 12:43 PM
in the Yajñvalkya Smriri and its contemporary literature, we find that the fear of post-puberty marriages became so great that the Smitris brought the marriageable age of girls still lower. According to the Parashar Smitri and Sheeghrabodha the marriageable girls were divided into five categories:
1) Nagnika or naked. A girl seven years old or younger. This was regarded as best age for marriage.
2) Gauri. A girl eight years old.
3) Rohini. A girl of nine years old.
4) Kanya. A ten years old girl.
5) Rajaswala. A girl above ten years old.
According to Vaikhnasa, a Brahmin should marry a Nagnika since that is the best match. According to Marici the best age of marriage for a girl is five years old. Brahmapurana also prescribes marriage in childhood. Failure to do this will condemn the parents or gaurdian to utmost degradation.
RE:RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Ali boy on Feb 24, 2008 12:47 PM
According to catholic encyclopedia When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place."
RE:RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by hardy rock on Feb 24, 2008 12:54 PM
This shows you dont know your religion properly. How can you debate on religion Abhinav. I have suggestion: try to know more about the creator.
RE:RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Ali boy on Feb 24, 2008 12:49 PM
come on abhinav were you the marriage registrar...there are thousands of instances of overaged zamindars marrying girls as young as 10 and burning them on pyres.don you know it.why this double standards.why dont you accept it.
RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Ali boy on Feb 24, 2008 12:41 PM
Abhinav...you know your ancestors played with such games in the past and it was authenticated by your puranas....you know brahmapurana recommends such games. What you will tell about the virtue of daughter in laws when your scriputres preach you how a daughter in law can be disrobed in public among the so called learned men.
RE:RE:RE:can any muslims explain to me why the most merciful Allah is against a noble deed as adoption........????
by Ali boy on Feb 24, 2008 12:51 PM
You dont call them evil by the way check for yourself who these learned men were.
As we all Know HINDU & MUSLIM's stayed together in INDIA & Fought against BRITISH/WHITE skin. They know that W/O breaking this they can't acheive their goal of making all CHRISTIAN's. They also know MUSLIM's can't be converted to Christinity. so they want to FINISH Muslims by convertim them to terrorist & BOMB them like IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN. Now coming to INDIA our "GREEN" Party & its white Skin leader want to further divide INDIA so they keep always showing support to muslim so they can win elections & convert HINDU's to CHRISTIAN's Both WHITE skin of WEST & GREEN part of INDIA's agenda is same that is conversion . they have strategy to same differenty.
RE:There is Nothing Wrong with Muslims But Its all done by West & GREEN of INDIA
by Praveen George on Feb 24, 2008 12:50 PM
Christianity was not founded in rome or italy, christ was born in israel an asian country, saint thomas the disciple of christ, came to parts of kerala and srilanka and taught the native people of new concepts, that is the start of christianity in india, many of the current muslim countries including iraq/baghdad had prominent christian churches and the churches in kerala and srilanka maintained very cordial relation ships with that in persia, infact the indian orthodox church has still very strong relation ships with the churches in old persia.The notion that christianity was introduced in india by british is highly historically stupid. If you have doubts on what i said, search on wiki. Ofcourse the arrival of colonialists brough in new waves of conversion. You still appear not to have problems with the british and the local rulers who sided with them to oppress the poor people.The missionaries and charity workers are the good people who came from the west who help us fight against the traditions in our culture some of which were inhuman,who established schools, laid the foundations of modern india, the conquering british destroyed india, but these people helped us rebuild india, your anger should be more diverted to the local princes who chose to fight against each other and rape innocent women and children instead of forming an unified front against foreign invasions.We have rejected the wron british, our culture is a culture which borrows the good, and charity and di
