While hinduism states that god is in everything, sciebtifically if we state that atoms together with sub atomic particles are what makes the universe and hence we call it god (we living beings are highly complex molecular compounds made of basic atoms only), therefore everything present in this universe is god - everything is god.
Whereas there is a degradation of this thought in islam which states that everything belongs to god, thereby giving a materialistic "landlord" status to god and as if we are not part of him but his tenents.
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by Raj Royale on Feb 24, 2008 09:35 AM
if you dont have an answer for this, then keep quite, dont advertise your ignorance all around, I have replied you for this below.
I know, quran does not have answers to all this, basically MohMad only copeid data that he could understand and the rest he just left uncopied because it was too complex for him to understand.
You see, your comrade Dr Naik has confessed himself in a video posted on youtube that MohMad's father was a brahmin and priest at the shiva temple in Mecca when he was trying to prove that Mohmad is kalki avtaar.
Dont try to protect the hoax, if you say, you are a man with scientific bent of mind, then come back to hindusim
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by Raj Royale on Feb 24, 2008 09:54 AM
Again a useless stance
Why are you playing with words? when you know that quran is shalow enough not to go beyond kafir and faithfulls to answer (scientifically enough)why we are here and how we should well utilise our lives by respecting everything around us, rather than looking at the world in black and white and kafirs and faithfull.
in simple words soul is energy and follows the same principle as energy.
This was documented in Geeta and Vedas 15000 years ago, but you prophet didnt even have an inkling of it 1500 years ago
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:38 AM
we all saw how the high priest of Hindusim sri sri shankar debated with Zakir naik on the open forum.It is there in youtube for us to see
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by zafar arif on Feb 24, 2008 09:44 AM
Dear Brother, God's status is not that of just landlord, but much more than that, He is the creator, and we, the Human beings, are the createds and we have been labelled as "Top Priority Creature". I think your above remarks are based on mere ignorance, kindly enrich your info base and then try to pass comments, thanks.
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by Raj Royale on Feb 24, 2008 09:49 AM
if you agree that god is everything (as mentioned in Vedas) and disagree everything belongs to God (as mentioned in Quran)
Then you are agreeing that quran is indeed a shalow book
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by Manju on Feb 24, 2008 11:09 AM
May god show u the straight path,just dont say anything to other religion just find the mistakes in urself,& get ready for the judegement day prepare for that
RE:Everything is God V/S Everything id God's
by zafar arif on Feb 24, 2008 09:43 AM
Dear Brother, God's status is not that of just landlord, but much more than that, He is the creator, and we, the Human beings, are the createds and we have been labelled as "Top Priority Creature". I think your above remarks are based on mere ignorance, kindly enrich your info base and then try to pass comments, thanks.
latest revelations: Bill Gates is a Muslim...becos his convoy was passing by a mosque on Friday. Warren Buffet is also a Muslim bcos he called Bill Gates a brother and since ONLY muslims can call otehr Muslims as brother he must be a Muslm also...George Soros is also a Muslim...
so is Larry ellison, Aryabhatta, Ambani borthers and LN Mittal...
go on guys what else did they teach you in the Madarasa
RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 09:30 AM
this is the usual ploy i see in Muslims...so giving a sample of your thechnique...
what's your view on prophet consummating marriage with a 9 yr old..?? answer this and let's see who' running out and who's running away..??
RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:31 AM
One,only has to look at the married life of Prophet and his wife Ayesha to realize how soulful and how compassionate they were towards each other.Ayesha never married any one after his death when she was just 20 at the prime of her youth
Now do 9 age women of yerster generations looked and behaved like the school kids of today?certainly not. If you look back in history,You will not be surprised to learn before few centuries ago that a girl of 9 years had a stamina,physical attributes and mental maturity of a teen age Woman.You can verify this just by asking at what age your grand mother got married , it certainly wont be more than 13 Even If the previous generation of women got into marriage as early as 13, you will now not be surprised 1400 years ago a 9 yrs old who attained puberty is not a Kid any more but a Woman.
RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 09:41 AM
many arabs 70, 80 years old come to Hyderabad in India pay Rs 30,000 and marry young girls 10 year old
the marrige is solemnised by a mullah - this is a contract marraige - one month or two months or just for three days !!!
one the once old arab feels that he had enough he will divorce and marry another young girl
these old arabs claim that their role model is mohMAD nabi
do you agree with them ?? if you don't they will brand you as a Kafir !!!
RE:RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 09:38 AM
You kid...do you even understnad the differnce between marriage at an young age and consummating the marriage...
and BTW your messenger was 56yrs old when he did this terror act with a hapless girl...even assuming your weird logic of stamina is true...do you imagine a 9 yr old understand what is going on to her mentally emotionally...
and this guy had sex with his own daughter-in-law...what abt that..??
this is really sic man you trying to jutify these things
RE:RE:RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:48 AM
You guys picturize Muhammed as a old man with shabby looks, marrying a small kid - well,at best this is a perversion of reality.because Our Prophet at age of 50,was the commander in chief of his army and Muhammed is a real hero and this marriage was a mutually agreed upon marriage.Look at the history for how Ayesha lived with Prophet.It is soulful and compassionate..
RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:45 AM
own daughter-in-law--No matter how many times you say a adopted A SON -he doesnt become a SON.Because relationship doesnt sprout in imaginations. Islam is about limits and responsibilities and with this it put a stop to imagined praticises of arabs and the rest of world
RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:51 AM
>>>hapless girl>>>??? How much of Islam do you know.. Most of the sharia is derived from the interpretation of prophet's wife Ayesha. and it is this system which is challenging the man made laws. You call this genius Ayesha (pbuh) a hapless girl???
RE:RE:RE:revelation by Balaord and Salim
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:47 AM
Are you aware of how many kings at the age of 10 took militray expeditions in history. The marriage was a mutually acccpted marriage between a young girl and a Man.
You claim your self to being into scientfic field, so while i can say that the Hindu saying "that soul is not destructible, it neither was born nor can be killed, and passes from one birth to another", is totally in line with the recent rediscovery of Law of conservation of energy (for you infirmation it states that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, it can only change from one form to another).
Can you disprove this ?
and do you have any proof which states that quran is not just shalow theologically
RE:Dear Balaord
by raghu vishnu on Feb 24, 2008 09:35 AM
what is this academic reference ur asking for for ancient knowledge? your westen world has still not come one eprcent clsoe to understanding ancient science and knowledge. maybe your great grandchildren might get to readf it from academic references. Its going to atke us that long if not more to get ur westen institutions to understand and prove indian ancient science.
RE:Dear Balaord
by raghu vishnu on Feb 24, 2008 10:07 AM
i am too young a novice to expalin the great knowledge of my ancestors. so i will not be able to provide answers to ur queries in the manner that u seek. but i welcome you to try to read more...Seek and ye shall find.our scriptures say knowlede is god. know more and you shall find God ...no matter by what name u call him
RE:RE:Dear Balaord
by mercury on Feb 24, 2008 09:31 AM
You idiot balaord, do u think u r intellegient just reading some things on internets and pretending what ur foolish madarasaa made brain to think???? u mroon....just have a break no body wants to waste precious time to satisfy ur questions..... ask to some mulla he will explain u theory of exploding bombs????///
RE:Dear Balaord
by Raj Royale on Feb 24, 2008 09:29 AM
balaord,
I am comparing the hindu saying about soul with law of conservation of energy.
Law of conservation of energy is very widely proved.
Also you prove me that if soul is not the energy, then why does a body have an expiry date ? why cant it go on and on if it is supposed to be so mechanicle as not to have a soul.
See, dont talk to me like I am your fellow muslim, We hindus are taught theology of a very high plane, talk to me scientifically, dont take up useless stances and prove your limited knowledge
RE:Dear Balaord
by Raj Royale on Feb 24, 2008 09:46 AM
Again a useless stance
Why are you playing with words? when you know that quran is shalow enough not to go beyond kafir and faithfulls to answer (scientifically enough)why we are here and how we should well utilise our lives by respecting everything around us, rather than looking at the world in black and white and kafirs and faithfull.
in simple words soul is energy and follows the same principle as energy.
This was documented in Geeta and Vedas 15000 years ago, but you prophet didnt even have an inkling of it 1500 years ago
RE:Islam-----the other word for hatred
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:22 AM
99.9% terrorists? when on earth NAXALS,ULFA,MAO,LTTE,EX-KHALISTANIS all became Muslims..? I have not included ETA,IRA and other international terrorist organization as you may not be aware of it..
RE:RE:Islam-----the other word for hatred
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 09:27 AM
they are tiny fraction...infact after reading your posts i'm tempeted to write 99.9% of Muslims are Terrorists
hey salim, pass me the links to this Ali Sania's website pls...i want to talk to him. i have never seen a more rationale and independent thinking muslim
RE:Islam-----the other word for hatred
by Ram Sharma on Feb 24, 2008 09:31 AM
almost all religion based terrorists r muslims. naxals, ulfa, ltte r not religion based. mao also did not believe in any god and he was not a terrorist, he was a communist. yes only khalistanis were religion based. but that is an old story.
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 09:00 AM
if allah is powerful & merciful he could have converted all Non Muslims ( kafirs ) just on that date he started revealing his message through arch angle gaberiel
why arch angel delivered the koran only into the ear ( left or right ?? ) of mohMAD only ???
he could have deliverd his messsage to the whole world in different languages !! why it was only in ARABIC ???
salim are there any SURAs to give answers for the above questions ???
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 09:12 AM
the most frequently used in arabic according the book of languages means KILL !!!
RE:RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:05 AM
One day GOD may open the sky and reveal himself and come to your home and drop a holy book from sky and point to some one and request you to belive in him as his messagenger. But if he asks what the hell you are doing with your 1 kg flesh called brain if you want everything to be seen,heard to belive just like animals without reasoning abilities do..?
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:08 AM
Do you know something..describe and give facts for inference to dog about a meat.It will never be able to. Because it can rely only on its external senses so it will always want to see and smell a meat to belive in it..You belong to that category,thats why reasoning and reflection on the world to belive in GOD doesnt work for you
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by Joseph Fernendes on Feb 24, 2008 09:15 AM
Why is it that :- 1) 99.99 % of terrorists are muslims ? 2) There is no peace in all muslim dominated countries.
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:17 AM
99.9% terrorists? when on earth NAXALS,ULFA,MAO,LTTE,EX-KHALISTANIS all became Muslims..? I have not included ETA,IRA and other international terrorist organization as you may not be aware of it..
RE:RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by salim on Feb 24, 2008 09:02 AM
You would have said the same if it is revealed in some other language.. According to islam,Prophet Muhammed is just the last messenger. Jesus,Moses,abraham are all prophets.Quran says GOD had sent messengers to all parts of the world in all languages-it is just that these prophets were killed and mocked upon when they told their respective people to belive in GOD Thats whay some Muslims claim vedas in its original form could have been a GOD's message, because it talks about One GOd and asks people to shun worshipping made made objects
RE:RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 09:25 AM
it is man made isn't it ? - that big black stone !!
Now you may say that allah dropped that big black stone right at that place !!!
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by HALI on Feb 24, 2008 09:13 AM
unless you stop praying stones, you will not understand the answer for your questions
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 09:16 AM
throw that big black stone in KABBA into arabian sea first !!! others follow suite
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by juggernaut on Feb 24, 2008 09:40 AM
Hi. Is it right that the big black stone in KABA is in the shape of an ellipsoid (Linga)
RE:How Islamic inventors changed the world-Paul Valley in Independent UK
by jose on Feb 24, 2008 10:10 AM
Please do not argue in the name of religion as it will develop more hatred. we all are indians so be like an indian only.
The ego of atheist is very strong and that goes as far as to rebel GOD. Jefery Lang who is currently a professor in Kansas State Univeristy,he is a and author of Zariski Surfaces And Differential Equations in Characteristic
His book amazon.com/Surfaces-Differential-Equations-Characteristic-Mathematics/dp/sitb-next/0824776372
He embraced Islam and he is his speech is From atheism to Belief - His Speech given on McGill Univeristy
watch?v=qVQ1BWqjTjs
He is a practising Mathematicisn just like me and one of my inspirations
RE:RE:How the mind of a atheist works?
by mt on Feb 24, 2008 08:55 AM
if allah is powerful & merciful he could have converted all Non Muslims ( kafirs ) just on that date he started revealing his message through arch angle gaberiel
why arch angel delivered the koran only into the ear ( left or right ?? ) of mohMAD only ???
he could have deliverd his messsage to the whole world in different languages !! why it was only in ARABIC ???
salim are there any SURAs to give answers for the above questions ???
RE:How the mind of a atheist works?
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 08:50 AM
the obedience of a blind beleivers like Muslims is comical...why should the creator be beyond questioning...if an atheist is rebelling then its as per God's design isn't it..??
Intelligence and doubting is God's gift and hence has to be used everywhere including what God says...
My friend here says that repeted viewing of Jihadi material brain washese these people. I have a suggestion for these people. If they are so passionate about their cause, they should fight along side their comarades in Iraq or wherever , rather than killing innocent people in India. Every muslim in India first thinks himself as a muslim and not an INDIAN. If every Christian, Hindu, Jain, Buddist etc thinks about the perceived wrong done to some one of their kind some where in the world, then this world would be in constant turmoil, with every one trying to kill the other. The only solution to this kind of behavior or thought process is to destroy this virous by any means.
RE:Brain Washing
by saahir on Feb 24, 2008 08:52 AM
ya we muslims giv first priority 2 our religion thn country if we wld hav born in saudi thn also our first priority wld hav been religion thn country.
RE:RE:Brain Washing
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 08:55 AM
which is why the community is being slowly eradicated...the outdated manual has to be updated...ALLAH send the next prophet..but be careful Muhamed has ensured you don't have that option
RE:Brain Washing
by secret on Feb 24, 2008 09:22 AM
yes...many are becoming Ex-muslims also...there are atleast 200 sites of ex-muslims...you do the math...
Karnataka has never been a united state. There exist fault lines everywhere....
Lingayat versus gowda (big one) kannadiga versus tamil (big one) kannadiga versus telugu kannadiga versus kodagus kannadiga versus marathis (big one) there are fault lines with hindi speakers, konkani and tulu speakers as well.
It is a miracle that the state has been in peace.
Taking advantage of these cleavages, islamists are taking over the strategic Konkan belt and beyond from their bases in mallapuram/kannanur/calicut. One needs to visit Bhatkal, mangaluru, kodagu, shivaji nagar and udupi to get a feel of what is happening. Chikmagalur is a muslim majority town.
It is time for Hindus in Karnataka to unite and face the scrouge of islamism.
The lack of unity caused the felling of Hampi. We should learn our lessons and not allow the fall of Vijayanagara to be repeated.
RE:Surreptitious Changes happening in karnataka
by Uthpal on Feb 24, 2008 09:22 AM
This is excellent piece..of work. The Congress has played the caste card and dirty votebank politics and its serious consequences are showing now. Well, its good that these terrorists were arrested before doing any serious damage to innocent people. Congress only wants power so that it can play with people by letting loose this kind of people. Just see not even a single serious statement from them. We need a serious leader like Modiji who has routed terrorism from Gujarat which was the main theme on which he won in Guj.Long live Modi.
RE:Surreptitious Changes happening in karnataka
by Mysorean on Feb 24, 2008 08:50 AM
Karnataka is know as the soft underbelly of South. This state has been used and abused not only by muslims terriost from time to time, but also Tamil terriost(LTTE kind).This has happned due to the so called 'secullar' politics practised by congress and janatadal shit heads It is time to realise at what cost to the soft natured people of karnataka will this sort of politics help.
