Its high time to concentrate on the Agriclutural revolution. Its in the hand of government to step down at a micro level to improve the productivity of the agriclutural products.
They are bringing IT, AUTO, BIOTECH....... But to improve the Agriculture every thing is in paper.
About 70% of them are involved in the agriculture and how much amount of Research and Development are towards Agri. Even the educated person from the agriculture background want to do make a revolution in agriculture, is there any help from NGO, Government....
Think, End of the day everyone in the world (Globalisation!!!!) needs food......
RE:Agriclutural Revolution keeps all Good!!!!
by hello on Feb 27, 2007 04:01 AM
There are lot of R&D going on in Agri. Do you know how long Jatropha plant? With in that short period, We have produced our own varieties. Do you know one thing. In rural places, they call BLOCK Office ( spelling may not be right) When I enquire about different pepper seeds, they came up with a pepper variety which yields one year earlier and need less water. Enquire about rice variety, IR 80, ... so on. Who developed them, Is it developed countries. No, our agri people only. How many indian variety rose flowers are there. There is a lot of department are there.
RE:Agriclutural Revolution keeps all Good!!!!
by sandeep sarat on Feb 27, 2007 03:51 AM
Instead, how about concentrating on reducing the population of the country????
RE:Agriclutural Revolution keeps all Good!!!!
by Prasad GVNAV on Feb 27, 2007 11:44 AM
Agri Revolution is really gud idea. For this revolution to occur, it will not be a big deal at all at the corporate level.
1) Identify the Agri Land and poor farmers. 2) Support them with latest technology, good seeds and professional guidance (This can be taken from a lot of agri institutes in india and abroad). 3) Show them the proper markets to sell the agri products.
Now, you may ask who will do the above. Its we who can do it. For groups (Dont you have a big friends circle working in For big corporates)
The Big Corporate houses (Not necessarily Big corpoate houses, it could be group of corporate employees) can collect 2 to 3% of the gross income from the willing employees then use the money collected into the development (use of new technology) of the Agri land.
If we plan strategically, and set proper targets, then surely the produce will be as expeted.
Even if a Natural disaster occur, the money accumulated from the group can easily support the farmers and rebuild the entire thing, may be not in days but surely in weeks time.
If this amount contributed by the employees is made tax free by the govt then it could be a very gud gesture from the govt.
Dividends from the profits can be paid, this may not be a big amount but it will surely help the farmers and the agri sector grow.
When the current farmers are tidy enough to work on them selves, then identify new land and farmers and work with them.
Its our country we can make it green again. Why shud we wait for cleaning up the corrupt system and then changing the policy. We can start implementing the policy without breaking the law and the same would be made a govt policy later.
Lets not wait for the govt to do it, lets start doing it and govt can always follow.
RE:Agriclutural Revolution keeps all Good!!!!
by Ganapathi Raj on Feb 27, 2007 07:59 AM
If we cant improve agri. Why dont we reduce the population involved in agri to say 8% and employ the others by developing other profitable well paying sectors ????????
RE:RE:Agriclutural Revolution keeps all Good!!!!
by magesh ganesh on Feb 27, 2007 11:24 AM
You have enlisted so many acheivements! Let us not re-itterate the fact that we are under developed interms of agricultural produce. Whatever u say might be just publications in journals articles, or as project reports.
According to me (reality is the proof) I consider we are still under developed nation. The government must stop showing step motherly treatment. Economic and agricultural reforms lay as policies and reports. Let us not boast for having framed great strategy. Let us show by implementing the simplest measure.
It is well know fact that there is a huge gap between various class of life. So much gap that one goes to pubs just gives a tip of 100/- who serves the drink and the same gentleman bargains to a fruit vendor to reduce Rs 2/- on the fruit he buys. Shame!... Where is the value and ethic?
We can be happy that for a vast nation like India IT and ITES have given economic boom. Yes, It is true. There are associated and inter-dependent employment to less educated people too. BUT, this has resulted in widening the gap between poor and rich!. It is unfortunate. I firmly beleive that we can take advantage of the economic growth in one field to harness profit in other. Let us invest the money what we earn from IT or ITES field into Agriculture, Education, Rural development, Women Uplifment, etc.
Let us open our eyes and be responsible citizen. Let us not entertain any kind of bribery. Let us value our vote and teach the so called MPs a good lesson.
If possible help your neighbours with small sum of money to start business or invest in agriculture. If you have a maid in ur house do emphasise the value of education. Help them in all possible means.
Just for the sake of numbers please tell whether India should implement minimum wage? If yes, How much it should be? Should it be hourly? Daily? Monthy? I mean that rate should be absolutely the minimu YOU will ever pay for any service in India. For maid, shoe polish, laundry whatever work it is. It has to be the absolute minimum wage.
RE:Minimum wage In India? A question for you....
by Sreekanth Nemani on Feb 27, 2007 04:30 AM
Rs. 10 an hour absolute minimum. Rest depends on what type of work. Mostly I have paid a lot more though for my maids and all.
RE:RE:Minimum wage In India? A question for you....
by Jagadeesan R on Feb 27, 2007 04:34 AM
I think 20Rs per hour is what we are seeing in the cities,,,
RE:RE:RE:Minimum wage In India? A question for you....
by hello on Feb 27, 2007 04:48 AM
Please multiply that with 8 hours and calculate for a day. You should be able to give to your worker if you operate a small scale business like Laundary shop, taylor shop etc.
The poor in Tamil Nadu are getting free TVs as this was promised in the last election. So they can forget their hunger and debts, and watch the stars sing and dance and watch epic mega serials.
If only they received job training instead of free TVs, they would be getting trained to fish, instead of getting a fish for once (remember the saying?).
Some of you might ask, what after job training, are there jobs? Well, there are jobs in places like Tirupur and Coimbatore - so many that there is a shortage of skilled workers : http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2005/12/02/stories/2005120202851900.htm http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/28/stories/200511 2806730500.htm
RE:Free TVs or job training
by rolladesi on Feb 27, 2007 03:14 AM
The TV sets were distributed by DMK govt because SUN TV stands to gain from it... they get more customers!
This is a transition period for India, when it is transitioning from communist-capitalist society to pure capitalist one. Some will benefit from it and some will lose. It%u2019s a natural phenomenon. People who are going to gain are people who are well educated. Not only in IT or engineering but also in any other field like Law, Pharmacy etc. People who may or will lose are like small vendors and middleman or uneducated people. I don%u2019t know if this transition is good or bad, but it is going to happen. People need to understand it and as quickly they understand it, better they are. I think it is also a responsibility of Government to make sure that they provide proper training to people who will suffer because of this transition. People should also make effort. I think in new economy, no one can claim to have a permanent or secure job, like our previous generation did.
RE:It'sa transition period for India
by hello on Feb 27, 2007 02:53 AM
Yes. Absolutely agree. These are happening because of TRANSITION. I am not telling you. but generally telling: It is wrong to blame IT or other people who brought wealth to you. Yes. Govt. need some steps progressively.
Ya, its difficult task to handle now. As we are growing rapidly, its may be difficult to control Inflation. But as we luckly got a talented Finance Minster i hope he know how to handle it.
RE:Lucky we got a good Finance Minster now
by raj jhawer on Feb 27, 2007 08:27 AM
HA TALENTED FINANACE MINISTER, IF HE HAD BEEN TALENTED, HE COULD HAVE SEEN THE INFLATION REARING ITS UGLY HEAD 6 OR 12 MONTHS AGO.
Guys, Have you thought what causes inflation? And what can be done to bring it under control. India is growing at the rate of 9%, this is not a planned growth, this means the supply and demand are not in equilibrium. More demand than there is supply causes a mis-match, causing highr prices than normal and leading to inflation. But fortunately, the govt. has noticed it along with the RBI and using monetary and fiscal controls, they will bring inflation down. This is only a temporary phenomenon which can be attributed to India's un precedented growth. One thing everyone can do to reduce inflation is save more, National saving (public & private) cause interest rates to go down and investment to increase, thus increasing money supply. Start Saving and stop spending on ridiculous things.
I went to US and earned enough money. This is what I did. I bought a small factory with the money, now I pay the interest with my earning from the factory and put my name as M.D ( Managing Director). I am giving job to few Indians too & proud of my country!!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:I went to US & returned to India and living happily. See how!!!
by hello on Feb 27, 2007 04:27 AM
Sorry to see your comment again after telling sorry for me previously.
RE:I went to US & returned to India and living happily. See how!!!
by Amit Jain on Feb 27, 2007 09:46 AM
Good for you unnamed MD ... may be rediff can publish an interview with you some day ... Did you not learn to speak in accordance with the topic every one is discussing?
RE:sshyjus
by ajay khanna on Feb 27, 2007 05:00 AM
I agree mate, but also disagree, I came to India last Dec and it's not cheap here now. The dollars are not that great as they used to be, real-estate is so high now, I was thinking of coming back to India soon, but now I will think only in another 5-6 years. India is a expensive country now !!!!
RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Prem Kumar on Feb 27, 2007 02:43 AM
Mr. Ganpath, you are living in your sweet own world and deny to look around. You are generalizing things to world with your own house experience. Job growth & economy is only for IT & ITeS not to all.
Production market is going downhill. Agriculture is worse than ever and in deep trouble. Still you call economy is good because you have job?
RE:RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by vijay on Feb 27, 2007 02:53 AM
Hi Prem Kumar,
Dont be rubish (sorry). Wht ever u said is wrong. See the points given below.
1) Manufacturing Industry growth = 9%
2) Agriculture growth per ann = 2.5%
Nothing is going down.ofcourse IT is the most fastest growing sector. Same time as much as they grow the govt is going to get more money to spend for the needy.
Think how much tax a IT person paying. What ever dept grow all we are going to get benifit.
Note:- I am not from IT. I am from manufacturing dsector.
RE:RE:RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Jagadeesan R on Feb 27, 2007 03:05 AM
Hi Vijay, Sorry for interrupting. The point is not whether its IT or manufacturing. Is the growth an inclusive one (ie covering majority of society). ?? The answer I think is No.
(Pleas see my one more long post below )....I feel numbers can be deceiving. Manufacturing is doing okay, But What about Agri the biggest breadwinner for our country ? And more importantly, is our society fundamentally solid now ?
Let me take some small examples.
I bought a flat in Chennai in Jan 2005 for 14-20 L. Now the flats there are in the range of 32 L(Within 2 years). Reason -> Inadequate supply of quality housing ( too much demand and too less supply). No other reason, Roads still bad, no water, no sewage...So how many people can afford a house now in that area ?
I remember one person telling me that the 15-20K i earn every month is a fortune for him since he has to fight like a dog to get barely 3K per month. There are many ppl like him.
I have met 3 kids myself who did not have money even to catch a city bus and pay school fees and were looking for help on the road...How about these guys ? Are we putting in the system to help these folks join the growth and enjoy the fruits ?
RE:RE:RE:RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by srinivasan srivatsan on Feb 27, 2007 03:32 AM
I feel the reason for price increase in real estate price is not the demand/supply. There are more than enought quality housing coming up. The reason for the price increase in the raise in land costs. Land costs have risen close t0 75% in chennai in the last 8-10 months.
The government failed to keep a check on these raising prices.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Jagadeesan R on Feb 27, 2007 03:55 AM
You are correct. Land is the problem and govt should have intervened to ensure sufficient land for housing but the satellite city project ran into trouble since it was proposed on agri land...This is the problem with too much urbanization in a country like ours with so much population density.
RE:RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Jagadeesan R on Feb 27, 2007 02:48 AM
I agree, Prem. Taken on Mr.Ganapathy Raj's basis, i should be very happy that i am making atleast an above average pay packet ( myself am in IT). But i am not happy....!!! Bcos i do know that i am a very small minority of the people, which is surely not good for our society.
Bcos in the brutal laws of capitalism, when there is too little supply and too much demand, the cost of the goods rises manifold putting them out of reach of most folks. Only a small elite will now command over the society's assets, causing severe frustrations among the remaining 90% folks in the society.
RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Bathla Gundu on Mar 13, 2007 07:52 PM
Hi Raj,
Please tell me the cost of living in Chennai today if you have your own house. We are retirees and would like to settle down in Chennai. Please send reply to bathlagundu@rediffmail.com
RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by Sreekanth Nemani on Feb 27, 2007 04:48 AM
What most people fail to understand is that at the rate our population was/is growing the situation would have been much worse if it wasn't for economic reforms, IT and globalization. People think the 80's and 70's were some dream days. People were in the same state back then too - it was just different people.
The number of people in poverty has definitely decreased by whatever indicators you take. But life is tough because all those years of rampant population growth and 3-4% economy growth cannot be undone in a day.
The economy is growing like never before, no doubt about it, but there is so much more population too. So it will take time. The hardest hit in the current scenario are middlemen, like vanaja's husband, which are being eliminated at the small scale because businesses have to keep pace. But other's are prospering because they have moved with times and adapted.
RE:This has nothing to do with Economic Growth
by hello on Feb 27, 2007 02:16 AM
Dear Sukhwinder, Understand how another Indian thinks. That's what I think that instead of blaming the existing system, let us take the positive things and appreciate the system everything will be alright!!!
Rediff... Atleast this old lady has 3 more ppl to help her. Struggle is a part of life. You will find many ppl dying of hunger due to poverty. What are you trying to achieve by posting this article on your website?
RE:Poverty is a part of India
by on Feb 27, 2007 06:37 AM
Instead of blaming politicians we need to see what we have done. Everyone thinks like this, I am paying huge tax and its the governments responsibility to work on it. let us come out of this thought.
the root cause of this problem is lack of education. If everyone is educated, probably everyone will have an ambition and will set goal to achieve. Have we ever thought about giving education to the poor. Its high time that people spend some amount of time and may be a very minute portion of salary for the education of poor.
We need not go around for poor people I am sure, Every house of us will have a poor maid, a poor milk man, a poor flower vendor and its possible we meet them in our daytoday life.
Why cant we spend sometime in helping and educating them, the education can really cause wonders with those poor lot.
RE:RE:Poverty is a part of India
by Mahesh Jagga on Feb 27, 2007 11:48 AM
Dear Mr Anonymous,
The taxes you and I pay are supposed to be used for development works (Not only providing employment to unemployed but also creating much needed infrastructure for development). If 80% of these taxes lines the pockets of politicians, why should we not blame them.
We are always more worried about taxing the 3.5% of population more and more as we perceive that they can pay more. But out of every Rs. 10 that we collect from them, only two will reach the desired end.
Are you suggesting that we should let them siphon away the 80%.
