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Bhola
RE:Stats confuse Paks
by Bhola on Dec 15, 2007 12:36 AM
you have an undeveloped brain, i am showing crimes is lower in india in all the stats as compared to the USA. and for all Indians who cose to migrate, please keep that in mind. nothing else.

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Golden
RE:RE:Stats confuse Paks
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:40 AM
bhola, just dont mind these kind of mindless people. you are doing a good job.
and why you should show something lower or higher. you must show the truth. if truth is there then it is over.
let the followers of lies cry, they will cry for ever and there is not cure for them.
and this satan doesnt know that you have shared the per 1000 rate also not only the absolute one. i saw that. so dont worry and keep your good job.

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K Kumar
Tragic incident
by K Kumar on Dec 15, 2007 12:23 AM  | Hide replies

This is a tragic incident. One of the victim is newly married and his wife is pregnant and other victim said to have an infant. It is really hard to comprehend why it happened

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Sami
RE:Tragic incident
by Sami on Dec 15, 2007 12:55 AM
you dont know then you are not having enough knowledge of world news.
if anyone killed it is because of muslim

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ramesh
RE:RE:RE:Tragic incident
by ramesh on Dec 15, 2007 12:35 AM
Get the hell out of this forum if you dont have anything constructive to add.
Dont make yourself look like an idiot by writing about Hindus and Muslims in an article that has nothing to do with the issue.

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Rajasekaran kodakkattil
RE:Tragic incident
by Rajasekaran kodakkattil on Dec 15, 2007 12:57 AM
Here is a tragic incident and any sensible human being should be sad. Otherwise he is not human being but a an animal

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Golden
RE:Bhola, Agreed
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:27 AM
thanks for accepting this truth about murder. now go and find the data about
women abuse,
women harassment,
rape,
child abuse,
discrimination and protection,
also and you will come to huge surprise.
you are so adamant, you dont even give this credit to islam that murder will come down if islam is implemented. you are even blaming dictatorial govt. these dictatorial govt. are much better than your so called pseudo secular and democratic govt. if they can protect the simple citizens without any prejudice.

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Satakarni
RE:Bhola, Agreed
by Satakarni on Dec 15, 2007 12:25 AM
That is because women will be scared to report in Saudi Arabia as Sharia courts are highly biased against them. Women are not allowed to drive vehicles in Saudi Arabia.

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Bhola
RE:RE:Bhola, Agreed
by Bhola on Dec 15, 2007 12:29 AM
But as a man of science and common sense, you will agree that a man will find it hard to rape a woman since punishment is death for the rapist, no appeals or dillay delaying, something good come out of such strictness than in a country where rapists just get away.

Saudi arabia also has lowest burgularies and frauds in the world, for the same reason, STRICT DEATH PENALTY FOR SUCH CRIMES.

Not that I am advocating such in India, but stats are stats, and I am a hindu Indian.

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Golden
RE:RE:RE:Bhola, Agreed
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:31 AM
jazakAllahKhair, you are doing good job. just dont lose your patience and concentration. just convey the message and real data with reference. i think i shall leave now. Allah Hafiz.

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Golden
RE:RE:Bhola, Agreed
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:30 AM
in islam women can even question the highest authority of state the Khalifa. it happened when true islam was imposed in saudi arabia during the caliphate of Umar (RA). that's why there is not limit put in Dain Meher (an obligatory money given to bride during marriage).
leave the women aside, does any man has got right to go directly to president of india and question her. you will be shot even before you reach her. islam gives the real rights and teaches the real duties to the humanity. ISLAM IS THE ONLY HOPE OF THIS WORLD.

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Golden
RE:Maybe Muslim terror groups behind the murder??
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:09 AM
why did your 300 jewish brother were on leave all at once and all of them together on 911. did they dream anything?
still CIA is confuse and say: "we dont know who is the real man behind this attack". then how come your father bush attacked on afghanistan and killed so many innocent lives. mulla umar asked for the proof but they did not share but they shared it with tony blair and musharraf. they knew it very well who can be bought and who cant.
still if you dont come to the truth then you dont need to know it at all. just go and sleep and praise your father bush.


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Golden
RE:Maybe Muslim terror groups behind the murder??
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:24 AM
you are talking something in totally senselessness. dont worry, i dont need your protection, Allah is sufficient for me.
yes there is problem with your bringing up.
when truth unveils suddenly enemies of truth become very innocent and tries to molest others.
relevant topic: what relevant topic. where is any topic other than kill islam and murder muslims on this rediff.
i have seen every topic turns out to be a tool to thump mulims and islam. suddenly you become very relevant with the topic. i can understand, yeas the problem is with your bringing up.
hope you will supporting rushdie, right. the only reason for your support is, he has abused islam, you dont need to know anything else.
the guy who says: white women are to be "Father, Uncle Cousine King ED" and thrown away, people say he has hight of creativity and he is very creative and thinker type of man.
he has abused ram and sita as well but no body bothers and no hindu has any problem. if he has abused islam then every thing is okay.
i just wonder how much you people can go just to defame and abuse islam. you can sell every thing thing you have. justnow you are giving your littlemoney. you save it girl. during your old age no body will like you but your stomach will still churn for food then.
if you can imagine your helpless days then just support islam because in islam it is govt. duty to make sure that no body sleeps hungry.
this crying humanity needs islam badly.

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rani
RE:Maybe Muslim terror groups behind the murder??
by rani on Dec 15, 2007 12:51 AM
Golden, Stop harrassing ladies! Anu is speaking nothing but the truth. You muslims have created a grave for your own self and no crying foul!

Muslims treat women like shit, preach hatred and destruction and mayhem all over the world and then want to talk about your freedoms! Why shouldn't the civilised world react against you folks! It will take fanatic muslims maybe eons to even come close to understand the profound ideologies of great leaders like Bush and Tony Blair who have the conviction to honor their word. If America loses this war on terror, we all lose! Entire humanity is bound for destruction as you Islamists will leave no stone unturned to make hell for us women and children- shame on your community!

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Golden
RE:Maybe Muslim terror groups behind the murder??
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:10 AM
i think osama is behind this. may be he went to his childhood again and shot to these people.
who knows, if tomorrow bush the liar says this then this whole world will believe also.
comon man, it is not a big task to fool thise people. they can easily believe in stone and snake then why not the clever liar like bush the butcher.

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Raj Reddy
RE:RE:Maybe Muslim terror groups behind the murder??
by Raj Reddy on Dec 15, 2007 12:36 AM
Arey pandu Golden. I don't know how you are Golden, thera khayalaat aur funde bilkull bakwas hein. The way you contradict from one email to the next, you need therapy but I think we all need therapy after reading your gibberish.

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anu
RE:HARD FACT IS AMERICA IS A HIGH CRIME SOCIETY.
by anu on Dec 14, 2007 11:55 PM
Thanks Bhola,
now can you give us the statistics of the average Income per household.
and the countries using child labors.


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sumit sachdeva
RE:HARD FACT IS AMERICA IS A HIGH CRIME SOCIETY.
by sumit sachdeva on Dec 15, 2007 12:22 AM
Hi Anu

Your responses are electric, apt and awesome...


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amotnam
RE:HARD FACT IS AMERICA IS A HIGH CRIME SOCIETY.
by amotnam on Dec 15, 2007 12:16 AM
hahahahahahaha ROFL
not a right forum to be laughing but thats witty....
My heart goes out to the family impacted by this. It so hard on the people involved when your son or daughter is overseas and you get such news. I keep travelling back and forth, and twice during my trip I came across two such incidents...my god, its the worst nightmare for parents...

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Nitin Gupta
RE:HARD FACT IS AMERICA IS A HIGH CRIME SOCIETY.
by Nitin Gupta on Dec 15, 2007 12:30 AM
anu
while discussing income per household, try to discuss guns per household also...
In US almost 96% of them posses guns...that means in heat of the moment any one can shoot ...
while licking the feet of someone just understand the context also...
Ppl like u r shame for India

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raj vardhan
RE:HARD FACT IS AMERICA IS A HIGH CRIME SOCIETY.
by raj vardhan on Dec 15, 2007 12:21 AM
Anu do u even know what Bhola was talking about... cuz u seem like a lost ghost arnd.... Bhola was talking about the crime and u r talking about the economics lol....

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raman
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by raman on Dec 15, 2007 12:20 AM
Even if gandhi had illegal relationship, why should it nullify all the efforts that he put to fight against British. You are living in free India because of Gandhi. People admire him for his courage and his principles of non-violence.

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JM
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by JM on Dec 15, 2007 12:51 AM
Yes, we are living in a free India largely because of Gandhi....but....
we are also living in a divided India largely because of Gandhi.

The reason India is called Hindustan is in Pakistan (river Indus)

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abdul khan
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by abdul khan on Dec 14, 2007 11:55 PM
what has Islam to do with this homicide

May the dead rest in peace

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Golden
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 11:58 PM
yes, i shall answer all your question. if you have mind then think onthis.
yes, 911 WAS A JEWISH CONSPIRACY. in plain and simple language.
1. there were 300 jews who worked in WTC were on leave on that day. did they have dream about this?
2. more muslims have died in the building crash than any other community, is osama attacking muslims.
3. the building fell exactely the same way, americans do demolish their old buildings.
4. after the crash, CNN started showing palestinions celebrating but that was actually filmed during iraq attack on quwait. why showing this video then. were you waiting and ready with all your conspiring gears?
5. 3 years after the attack CIA put its 500 page report and clearly mentioned: "we dont know who might be behind this attack".
there are much more evidences but they are all for people with mind not with hatred.
saddam was not saint but much better than this butcher bush who you take your father and believe every thing he says.


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Golden
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:16 AM
i dont need your money, give it to your father bush, who can go upto any extent for money.
only an idiot will simply diny like you are doing this. go and find the proof and put them here on the net. and you are done.
i claim CIA, go on their site, find the proof.
i claim jews being on leave, go and find and put the link here.
why simply putting your money lady. keep your money safe, you will need it during old age.
it is hatred in your heart which influence you and makes you deny the truth.
any way truth is very much evident already. only thing is it has to be enforced because it is clear now that those who have power are actually dont support the truth. they simply follow money and can go upto any extent for this.
even you thinking about money also tells the same thing.
did i bet my money (no matter how much it is) to prove my point but you do because you think this has power and can suppress the truth.

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Tweeny Weeny
RE:this is what pseudo human says:
by Tweeny Weeny on Dec 15, 2007 03:22 AM
Golden seems to have all answers, is he a terrorist or has some nexus wid them?? is he some intelligence guy ISI from p.k

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nizil  crasto
BEWARE
by nizil crasto on Dec 14, 2007 11:43 PM  | Hide replies

So even America is NOT SAFE...

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Golden
RE:BEWARE
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:01 AM
no where is safe. mouse will die every where. only those who support truth and die for truth will survive.

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The Heat
RE:BEWARE
by The Heat on Dec 14, 2007 11:57 PM
America has never been safe.

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Bhola
RE:BEWARE
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:49 PM
Total reported crimes latest statistics by country

#1 United States: 23,677,800
#2 Germany: 6,264,720
#3 United Kingdom: 5,170,830
#4 France: 3,771,850
#5 South Africa: 3,422,740
#6 Russia: 2,952,370
#7 Canada: 2,476,520
#8 Japan: 2,443,470
#9 Italy: 2,205,780
#10 India: 1,764,630

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Manish Ahuja
RE:BEWARE
by Manish Ahuja on Dec 14, 2007 11:56 PM
I do not know what your source is. Howver, these are reported figures. Majority of crimes in India remain unreported. Police do not even write an FIR for many crimes.

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Bhola
RE:RE:BEWARE
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:57 PM
source Nationmaster crime section. check that out.

Thanks

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Manish Ahuja
RE:RE:RE:BEWARE
by Manish Ahuja on Dec 15, 2007 12:04 AM
I do not think that the statistics are right. For example, the site says that there were only 76 kidnappings in 1998-2000 period. This is obviously incorrect. Most of such crimes remain unreported.

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Bhola
RE:BEWARE
by Bhola on Dec 15, 2007 12:14 AM
Manish jee. I am not saying anything just showing STATS. Rest you know it all the realities if you have lived in India ever.

We need to compare two countries, and we have to look at STATS. this is the scientific methodology.

Of course in places like BIHAR UP and naxal areas, crimes will be underreported to the extent of 90% with even bodies being disposed off after murder, corrupt cops, corrupt judges, et al. NO lodging of complaints, jungle raaj. But at least in metros, i think crimes are reported and registered to the max.

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Manish Ahuja
RE:BEWARE
by Manish Ahuja on Dec 15, 2007 12:10 AM
Mr. Bhola, whatever you are saying is obvious and not hard to understand. Merely going by certified figures does not indicate that a particular county is safe. Even if India's reported figures indicate that India has much less crime, it in no manner mean that it is safer. Anyway, I know you would remain adamant. Bhains ke aage been bajaane se koi faaida nahin hai.

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Suyog
RE:RE:BEWARE
by Suyog on Dec 15, 2007 12:02 AM
Thanks Bhola .. but the reason India is 10th because only 10% crimes get registered Sir.

In other contries Police file FIR's even for Sneezing .... but in India they dont care even for Rape and they rather threaten Victim .....

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mahanty venkata  rao
my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by mahanty venkata rao on Dec 14, 2007 11:39 PM  | Hide replies

I was shocked to know about this pathetic news. Kiron a bright scholar from Karimnagar district of telangana is the son of our noted telugu writer and creator of revolutionary literature sri Allam rajaiah. my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu and the family members of both these young men.

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balaord
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by balaord on Dec 14, 2007 11:43 PM
May GOD give their family the strength to bear this unberable loss.


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RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by nizil crasto on Dec 14, 2007 11:42 PM
So even America is not SAFE...

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Bhola
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:43 PM
BURGLARIES BY COUNTRY -

#1 United States: 2,099,700
#2 United Kingdom: 836,027
#3 Australia: 436,865
#4 South Africa: 394,557
#5 France: 370,993
#6 Poland: 364,786
#7 Japan: 296,486
#8 Canada: 293,416
#9 Mexico: 139,679
#10 India: 111,296


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ramesh
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by ramesh on Dec 14, 2007 11:44 PM
Where are you getting these stats from ?
Can you provide a link ?

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Bhola
RE:RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:45 PM
SURE, GO TO NATIONMASTER DOT COMMMM AND GO TO CRIME SECTION, REVEALING STATS.

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balaord
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by balaord on Dec 14, 2007 11:48 PM
Mr.Bhola thanks.I googled and found the link
Given the perception of many rediff readers
It is surprising that Saudi arabia has the least murder per capita rate on the world.
Link below
nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

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Golden
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by Golden on Dec 15, 2007 12:03 AM
there is no surprise brother. islam asks you to lead a natural life and if you go in the natural way. you will feel least resistance and you may your will have cool mind which will not allow you to harm any body else. but you must have a respectful life as well. no body has got right to kill you, you dont kill any innocent person as well.

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Bhola
RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:50 PM
ABEY GADHI, MEIN TO INDIA KO LOW CRIME DIKHA RAHA HOON. KYA BAKWAAK BAKTI REHTI HAI ? CHAL CHAL DHANDEY PER LAG JA

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Bhola
RE:RE:my deapest condolences to Allam rajaiah garu
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:51 PM
KOI IS KUTIA ANU KO BHAGAO

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Bhola
RE:Whatever Golden said is True!
by Bhola on Dec 14, 2007 11:39 PM
Total reported crimes latest statistics by country

#1 United States: 23,677,800
#2 Germany: 6,264,720
#3 United Kingdom: 5,170,830
#4 France: 3,771,850
#5 South Africa: 3,422,740
#6 Russia: 2,952,370
#7 Canada: 2,476,520
#8 Japan: 2,443,470
#9 Italy: 2,205,780
#10 India: 1,764,630


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RE:Whatever Golden said is True!
by on Dec 14, 2007 11:44 PM
I think the "reported crimes" is a key thing here right... In lot of developing countries a lot of crime is not reported!

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nasty
Rediff is bound to get sued
by nasty on Dec 14, 2007 11:37 PM

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