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ramky
Mochi banane chala Sunar
by ramky on Dec 01, 2007 01:30 PM  | Hide replies

Congratulation to Mayavati and Badal for stopping some happening thing as they are not capable of doing anything good to anyboby.
It is not understood what for these state governments are made? It looks like as these useless governments are made for doing such useless things.Really only God can save people of India.

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ratnesh verma
RE:Mochi banane chala Sunar
by ratnesh verma on Dec 01, 2007 07:13 PM
yeah, one is among the state who produces highest IAS and other is among the among the one which accounts for wheat/rice you eat.

So definetly god is saving these states.


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agp
CONTROVERSY
by agp on Dec 01, 2007 01:29 PM  | Hide replies

Well they like reservations but don't want to be
called by names

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Sivanandan nair
RE:CONTROVERSY
by Sivanandan nair on Dec 01, 2007 01:48 PM
I did not understand the so called secular parties are now talking about castes and creeds and diffrentiate one hindu from the other hindu. Is it not non secular?. All bloody politicians are only looking for their votes and come to power for making money. Who is Mayavati is she the Rani of Jhansy? What she knows about caste and religion, when she cannot respect her own religion what she is going to do to the social.

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SHRI RAM
Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by SHRI RAM on Dec 01, 2007 01:28 PM  | Hide replies

Mayawati is geting lot of money from missionaries to run caste base politics and divide hindus, so missionaries can easily convert Dalits in to christians and buddhists Just wants to show that dalits are not happy in Hinduism thats why do such Dramas Arrey bhai, Lohe(iron) ka kaam karne wala Lohaar(blacksmith), Soney(gold) ka kaam karne wala Sunhaar(goldsmith), Chamdey (leather) ka kaam karney wala Chamaar(cobbler or else), I dont know whats wrong in it, Actual problem in psyche of these peoples, all are converting to Christians and Buddhism.

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Faisal Khan
RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by Faisal Khan on Dec 01, 2007 01:38 PM
No Need of Dividing hindu they are already divided, You brahamins do not allow to enter in Temples so they will move from one religion to other, what dalit will do there, can you make anyone Brahamin?

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tarun gandher
RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by tarun gandher on Dec 01, 2007 02:08 PM
but you can make any one muslim. does your god permit this.does forcing any one to adopt any religion is good.

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Sivanandan nair
RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by Sivanandan nair on Dec 01, 2007 01:52 PM
Mr. Faisal the caste and creed is not in Hindus, it is there in all religion. Dont you have Sunny and Shia? Similarly in Christianity there are Methordis, Pendecoastal, Celestial, Roman chaolic and syrian catholic, and many more. Then why speak about Hindus only. In Iraq Shia and Sunny are fighting for their land and power. So better do not speak anything which you are not aware of.

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oossmmaann
RE:RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by oossmmaann on Dec 01, 2007 01:58 PM
Caste System in ISLAM ?

So Strange ! They use "Caste" as a Stick to beat Hindus !

How come this is in Islam , Which claims as casteless/Classless commmunity

--Varsha Bhosle

While on chauvinistic communities, how can one avoid the public gang- rape of an 18-year-old girl in Pakistan? The New York Times
wrote, "three higher-caste tribesmen sodomised her 11-year-old brother, then tried to cover up what they had done... a tribal council in the village of Meerwala ordered the rape of Mukhtaran Bibi of the low-caste Gujar tribe as punishment for allegations that her younger brother, Abdul Shaqoor, 11, had 'illicit relations' with a 30-year-old woman of the higher caste Mastoi tribe."Islam is divided into, if not more, then as many sects as is Hinduism. Schisms, focusing first on disagreements over who should lead the new faith, and later, on matters of doctrine, began developing immediately after Muhammad's death in the year 632: Islam splintered into the Sunni and Shia sects, which always were at each other's throats; Kharijis, who provided the first major schism within Islam; Alawis, who broke away from the Shiites in the 9th century; Ahmadiyyahs, who believe their founder was a renovator of Islam, a position other Muslims consider to be heretical; the Wahhabis, who flay the rest of the Sunnis; the Ismailis, earlier known as the Hashishi or the Malahida ("impious heretics"); Druzes, whom most Muslims consider blasphemous since they declared that God was m

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oossmmaann
RE:RE:RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by oossmmaann on Dec 01, 2007 01:59 PM
A Violation of Justice
Shaking behind her black chador, or veil, 18-year-old Makhutar Mai stood before a jury made up of men who hated her. Mai is a dairy farmer's daughter, a Tatla Gujjar, and the council members before her were all from a higher, landed caste group, the Mastoi Baloch. Mai's brother had dared to romance a girl from the higher caste, and in the dusty mid-day sun of rural Pakistani Punjab, a rowdy crowd gathered to demand eye-for-an-eye-style justice. The six seated elders finally delivered their judgment. To restore the caste's honor, they announced, Mai should be repeatedly raped. For the next hour, in a small barn nearby, three men penetrated Mai while a fourth stood watching. It's common in rural Pakistan for local councils, called panchayats, to adjudicate minor disputes over land, water or honor; the system is supposed to work in tandem with local police. But these days the councils are veering out of control. Last week, a man acquitted of blasphemy by a Pakistani court was retried by a village committee in Punjab. A day later he was stoned to death by a crowd of 250 to 300.

Mai's life began to unravel in late June, when her 14-year-old brother Abdul Shakoor was seen walking with his lover, an older girl from the more powerful caste. According to police, the girl's uncles kidnapped Shakoor, beat him up, sodomized him and held him captive in a family compound. The next day, Shakoor's uncle tried to get him released by proposing a formal panchayat. A

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hindu indian
RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by hindu indian on Dec 01, 2007 01:45 PM
mr faisal if there is no caste system in islam and all are equal, then y do ur people want reservations. incapable of achieving anything without begging/stealing/looting , arent you????

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RE:Conversion politics by christian Missionaries
by on Dec 01, 2007 01:50 PM
converted dalit xians in kerala have a separate church and still face the problem...

Until there are going to be religons and caste based politics, there unfortunately is no cure ...

It is very unfortunate that you are born and others treat you bad ... (same for dalit and same for upper caste) It is the OBC (mostly politicians) that is ruling and making our country into a mess ....

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knowsoft
This is not at all derogatory
by knowsoft on Dec 01, 2007 01:27 PM

Mochi means cobbler. If mochi is a derogatory word, then what is proper word for cobbler in Hindi?
Mochi itself is a proper word. Only those people will call this word as derogatory who think that being cobbler is bad.

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Akhil Siddique
NOW IT IS ENOUGH....
by Akhil Siddique on Dec 01, 2007 01:23 PM  | Hide replies

Since morning I am trying to send message / comment on this site... but rediff moderate team deleting immediatly... let rediff moderate must understand they have no right to behave like dictator.... it is democracy... or moderate must write only appreciation will be acknowledge in this site... critisism cannot be tolerated by the rediff moderate.... my question is any mochi is also part of rediff moderate team ???



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GN
RE:NOW IT IS ENOUGH....
by GN on Dec 01, 2007 01:27 PM
dont use symbols etc or text similar to link to website . the software which scans for spamsbefore posting might be removing the message. Moderator is not checking it release it.

Dont worry, here without any control, people doint shit. All abuses, All wrong ideas to defame others, Everything to vomit the frustation within yourself.

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riddhi agarwal
Don't they have another work to do
by riddhi agarwal on Dec 01, 2007 01:21 PM

Our politicians don't have anyother work to do or wat rather then wasting their time in such things.Wats wrong in the lyrics. Grow up & start using your mind & power in some useful thng or for which you hav been hiered for.

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Indian
And we thought Mochi and Sunar were professions
by Indian on Dec 01, 2007 01:15 PM  | Hide replies

I didnt know that the word was copyright of a certain caste.

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Indian
RE:And we thought Mochi and Sunar were professions
by Indian on Dec 01, 2007 01:16 PM
And what when a Gazetted Officer of Government of UP or Punjab says the sentence, " XYZ is a CHAMAR by caste" shouldn't we ban the UP government then

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GN
RE:And we thought Mochi and Sunar were professions
by GN on Dec 01, 2007 01:19 PM
Why the hell the caste , religion been even made mandatory in our PASSPORTS, LC.?

Cant remove it as , it will effect the reservation?

I dont understand the mentallity of people, who dont mind destroying public properties calling strikes, taking out MORchas, for reservation in the name of their CASTE? and dont like somebody calling them with that caste name ?

Beggar : Andha, apahij hoom, sahib, kuch dhe dho..
Gentleman : Bhikhari, yeh lo 5 rs.
(beggar takes the money then)
Beggar : YEH Shaane, BHIKHARI NAHI BOLNEKA, paisa dekhe meherbani kiya kya ?

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ShreeRam Somani
Close the shoe shops....
by ShreeRam Somani on Dec 01, 2007 01:10 PM  | Hide replies

If this hurts them so much... they should close the shoe shop chain called Mochi as well..

Then go on to close the mouths of every person on the streets who uses that word... this can be followed with an awareness campaign of how not to use the word... and may be ban it from the hindi dictionary as well soon...

WHAT CRA*! ASK THE POLITICIANS TO GROW UP! AT LEAST FOR A CHANGE

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Kuldeep Bisht
RE:Close the shoe shops....
by Kuldeep Bisht on Dec 01, 2007 01:24 PM
Dear all do not discuss the topic further with the words "mochi"& "Sunar" otherwise UP government will ban the REDIFF also.

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kiran hegde
RE:Close the shoe shops....
by kiran hegde on Dec 01, 2007 01:21 PM
Is there a dictionary called hindi dictionary? or is it 99% Urdu / arabic and 1% sanskrit words written in devnagari? feel the latter is truely true.

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