Do not try to redolve faith issues, with the construction of sethu project. It is dredging into unchartered sea bed territory, which will always encounter surprises. Every year revised budget for extra 2 miles of dredging. After barges will start, VALDEZ like accidents will be routine. This is all a stupidity, monkey brain project which will litter south coast with toxins - and NOBODY will stand up to assume responsibility.
Oil bubble will burst before projected completion of this Project. Imagine oil selling at 1/4 of current price. Supporters of Sethu project do not want to hear all this.
what would you define a fraud. An uncivilized way of cheating people/presenting wrong facts towards you/hiding his identity, sucking money.
Then these are the signs of a fraud, the Indian Government is doing with their people on Ram Sethu project. they are betraying million of hindus all over the world. i dont know why Indians dont think like us, whenever our government starts something we analyze that we try to understand that and if we found that wrong whether anyone of us is in his own Government we fight for that.
But why the people of the ruling party ignoring facts, is the people of india love money more than their belief, i dont know why it is happening, i didnt knew that indian Government is going to destroy Adam's bridge what we call it here. We will oppose here and if it would be possible we will certainly fight against US congress to favor India in any matter. Because we love democracy at all. And democracy means the decision of the people not of the Government What indian government is doing now is not called democracy anywhere, the only correct word for this is "TANASHAHI". so please awake indians you faith should not be betrayed for a few million bucks.
RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by gac on Oct 16, 2007 11:37 PM
hi mr. fake id, ur writing style itself shows that u r an indian from an indian school only, why fake ur id, be bold n talk open in public forums.
RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by bigfacts on Sep 21, 2007 11:29 PM
Sir we have to believe in all historical frauds done in last 2000 years by vested interests. Mostly brahmins. Educated Brahmins do believe all the gods in Hinduism ( related to Aryans) are total imaginary and fictitious
RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by john stephen on Sep 23, 2007 05:53 PM
As i cannot prove that God exists, same you cannot prove he does not. Ok, i agree that many frauds have been done in last 2000 years, is that means whole hinduism is nothing more then a bunch of emotions and fictitious characters.
once, when i heard about "Pushpak Vimaan" in Ramayana, i thought it is nothing more than an imagination. By habit, i started learning about Pushpak. Well it was driven by Air, and now luxemberg has invented an air driven car engine, and may be, which will be launched by tata's in their "People car"(i dont remember actual name but it may be) in india.
When i came to india in 2000, i visited a museum in Mysoore, there was an "Anshu Bodhini Yantra/Tantra" written by "Maharshi Bharadwaj". It is collection of mechanisms about developing vimaans(i would not call it airplane nor airship because it was much advanced system we can ever think)driven from the light of sun, from a self energy generating bulb,from battery-dynamo and also through atoms. is it fraud? or we are not known to the technology.
when we are watching our technology to develop high capacity batteries(as developed for a racing car in UK, proving backup for 400 km. after a charge of 10 minutes), solar energy systems, there was an already developed system.
ok, let us assume that this is fraud. Then i would like to express that when Helicopter was first invented it was told that One Japanese had already developed a structure of helicopter on papers 500 years prior to its invention. So I
RE:RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by john stephen on Sep 23, 2007 06:02 PM
then we (USA) would invent first airship, certainly it will be called that a Peot/Dakoit had already developed a full featured airship called PUSHPAK VIMAAN on papers.
it is sad that Newton re-invented the theory of Universal Gravitation which was already written in "Waisheshik" (one of the six great indian philosophies) about 1 million years ago.
it is the misfortune of hindus that their parents and the poor indian government are not aware of the great culture of Hinduism. They forget their entity in a run of technology, just with a desire to be an american like, they have forgot their soul. If the god could help me rebirth i will only beg him to birth me as a hindu till the end of the earth.
RE:RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by tushar tanna on Sep 24, 2007 12:22 AM
I don't know why the people in India are so quite still. Their belief,heritage and identity is on stack and they are just watching the show by this petty politicians. Indians(Hindus) are not ready to accept that their great holy books are real and not any fraud.I would request each and every hindu to study little about our rich history. Just think over it, the setu is mentioned in Ramayana and we got the proof with Nasa pictures. It is the time to take proud and consider this as a proof of our great history.
RE:The indian Government and Fraud
by shraddha bewal on Oct 04, 2007 12:40 AM
Hat's off to you Mr John Stephen at least you have shown keen interest in the scientific aspects of Hinduism and vedic culture, and not the emotional ones.I am totally with you. May be due to various sociopolitical factors ,also greatly helped by distored history in last few centuries,there are many confused soules existing. Real need of the hour is, keep the emotions aside, accept the facts mentioned in our great ancient literature and preserve it till the time we are really qualified enough to prove or disprove it. Ancient vedic literature is our proud heritage ,a wealth of knowledge we must do research on it and preserve it.Entire humanity will be benifitted.Political parties, pl keep our reach heritage sacred. Nitul,Indian
RE:spiderman
by Sarathy on Sep 20, 2007 05:01 PM
Oh Yeah, One who thought frequently about one thing and try to make it true the he can. This london reseatch cnetre issued last year. That much of power is there for one human brain. Why not lot indians accepted the Rama sa god and they believe in that character. and follow spwan to spwan. for past 27laks years even after the revolution tsunamis earth quakes after lot of nature diasters. But spieder came now thru an author may be become true after 27 laks year if he accepted as a god by the half of the world. But no one accept that spider man is a god.he is unreal but the whole world accepted the rama as a god and good emperor. Generaly a good king consdier as a god.
RE:spiderman
by bigfacts on Sep 20, 2007 12:06 AM
Oh yeah , I have 10 flyovers to be constructed in New Delhi, We may need around 5000 Vanar sena to finish this job. Probably another 3000 Vanar Sena to construct Metro in Mumbai..LOL
Constructing flyover is much more easier than setu on sea.
RE:spiderman
by peraka sreenivas on Sep 21, 2007 08:00 PM
Before you make fun of God read books like Ramayana, Mahabharatha and Bhagavatgita. Why you didnt mention Jesus and Allah in you list.
RE:hindu culture?
by Sarathy on Sep 20, 2007 04:36 PM
No, Many peoples having the Rajoic Character( negative character) and misguided the culture. so that you cannot blame the whole culture you have to blame the peples who condminate this? In Ramayana itself After dasaradha's Death none of his wifes were executed "sati" like this lot of contomination is there. So Follow the the Principle of "Ramanuja" who is considered as a Universal Phylosopher" and accepted by communicism parties too. Analyze the real meaning in vedic leterature and extract the truth and tell to all that is your duty. instead of that you degrade yourself and become shame of hindu. " Hindu Culture is most good culture as Egyptian" and understand and explain to all. there are lot things changed comparetively to 10 days before itself. Then think about the 5000 years difference. Where ever you go there is upper class on those days brahmin- Dravidan,now itself Richest - Poor, Officer-Peon,Manager-Sweeper,Grade1-Grade7, Md's-Employees, Whites - Blacks, Brilliant-Fool,Neat-Ugly so It will always there but in different aspect. So identify those try to rectify and educated the people then you will become Vivekananda. Fellows who not understand perfectly fail to preach or educate. Dont be a person in this list. I am proud to be an Hindu. because i understand perfectly and it is ocean.
RE:hindu culture?
by A R on Sep 20, 2007 10:35 AM
You talk as if the alternative religious cultures of that time (Islam, Christianity) were any less violent/barbaric/uncivilized. Millions were slaughtered all across Europe and Africa in the name of crusades and we all know very well about Muslim conquests. You should not forget that this is natural human evolution, from barbarism to humanity and we are still not there yet. So don't just think that all the non-Indians on this earth landed straight from heaven :-)
RE:RE:hindu culture?
by john stephen on Sep 19, 2007 12:29 AM
my this message is specially for bigfacts
i dont know my child who are u? i m a Christian but i still believe in the authenticity of Ramayan. may be you have not seen the bridge but i have seen that no one claim that this is not man made. if men made that all then who were those. many questions are there. but i would suggest you dear not to write anything adverse about anyone if you dont know much about the matter.
anonymous has said: half knowledge is a death.
that is true about you here.
so please if u dont know the matter dont write anything.
and also i would like to raise your attention to the hindu culture, here also you dont know much. i have researched whole of my life learning hindu culture and i m still learning that. if you doubt that hindus were not open minded then see Ajanta Alora Caves. they will teach you much. if you wanna know more about parda pratha then you should go for a short lesson of history , parda is actually a curse of mughal empire. if you say that saraswati married her own father then please let me know where in hindu granths saraswati was a daughter of brahma. also if you are talking about science then give me the methodology of building a bridge like this in your science. i had also been a scientist in my early days before becoming a father. i turned to be father because science could not give me answers of many things. well good luck and get knowledge first before claiming anything.
RE:hindu culture?
by Venkatakrishnan Guruprasad on Sep 19, 2007 09:57 AM
Dear father, what do you say about "Virgin Mary"? could you explain it. Also I've heard that Church is against Galileo when he said "Earth is revolving Sun" whereas Church said "Sun is revolving earth".
RE:RE:hindu culture?
by john stephen on Sep 20, 2007 08:44 PM
dear mr. gurprasad, i dont think that hindu system anywhere denied virgin mary. if i m understanding correctly what you are trying to say you should consider Shakuntala and Dushyant's relationship. probably you would have been heard about this story i have read many times. indians dont have any type of adverse thinking about this relationship.
and we are talking about Rama Sethu, don't leave your way
RE:hindu culture?
by bigfacts on Sep 20, 2007 12:31 AM
emotions, mythology is part of hindu culture. History, archaelogy, antiquity are different. Hinduism is right now totally based on emotions and mythology( lies) . Ram never existed. Many scientist have proved it.It is not same with Mahabharatha which did exist.
Anything which has no historicity , antiquity or archaeological evidence or reference in any other country's history is all bogus. Most of the real facts about india does exist in Chinese history, but as far as RAm is concerned there is nothing, it was mere fictional character.
RE:RE:hindu culture?
by john stephen on Sep 20, 2007 08:38 PM
i told you, you don't know anything about Indian culture. what is today is different but what was then its important. i told you just answer me who has build this bridge, already NASA has proved that this bridge is man made. and we Americans hearing stories about Rama Sethu, now called Adam's bridge here. and that you are talking about scientists, they had proved Einstein's theory wrong. do u agree with them. Many things are there everyone has his own mind, his own theory, his own resources and albiet his own facts. and tell me what is the definition of the scientist. do that who is having a degree in an specific science stream or that who is having an experience of his field. tell me which degree was possessed by Newton before inventing Universal Gravitation theory, which degree Einstein had before inventing his world famous theory of relativity. Scientists are just like us nothing more. they have a intellect similar like us but in a different direction. and if u understand the meaning of family or the structure of civilized society, you can understand the meaning of mythology, of emotions , a thread which can have millions of pearls in it without harming any other's identity. which in its uncivilized way the Muslim mythology do. dear nor the god has written the history nor the evil has written that, but the human was there from starting molding history to his own facilities. and albeit there was no-name written on any of the thing found in the favor of Mahabharat.
RE:RE:RE:hindu culture?
by gac on Oct 16, 2007 11:42 PM
hi mr. fake id, ur writing style itself shows that u r an indian from an indian school only, why fake ur id, be bold n talk open in public forums.
RE:RE:RE:hindu culture?
by gac on Oct 16, 2007 11:47 PM
hi fake id mr.john stephen, ur writing style itself shows that u r an indian, why you do this cheap stuff, calling urself an american christian dosn't make u 1.... really v.sad 4 ya
RE:hindu culture?
by peraka sreenivas on Sep 21, 2007 08:09 PM
Arent you ashamed that a person named JOHN STEPHEN knows more about Hindu culture than you. What right do you have to comment on Hindu culture without knowing anything. You are commenting with half knowledge. What is your answer for thousands of temples standing for thousands of years. What is the technology behind it. Once people made fun of Yoga untill Americans researched and found it really scientific. The same thing will go with other in Hinduism. Just needed open minded enthusiastic people. I am living outside and seen thousands of europeans following Hindu culture because it has the stuff.I think everyone thinks it a fashin and modern to comment on Hindu culture. There are funny things in every religion like Jesus being born to a virgin and some Adam standing on one foot for thousand years - my foot.
RE:BRAMIN EXTERMINATION OF DRAVIDIAN WOMEN
by Sarathy on Sep 20, 2007 05:16 PM
Dont simply blame the Brahmin. In all societey it is ther in Mudhaliar so many sub castes are there and they treated that class as prostitute. Lot of Dravidan men raped the Dravidan women including the mass rapes. And the muslim dynasty entered the india. Mass meas extremely mass rapes executed and killed the women after the rape in very cruel method. Study the Hisotey perfectly and don quote only one part of history. Half study is and half matured and half baked cause society death. So All peoples who have the cruel character done this. May your grand's's's's's father may also be part of this executions mentined above for???. And devadasi the people used to control the aids also one who entered the theri house were neglected by the society and they neve neglect the Devadasi. INstead of that informt of the Deity they dance in the temples. Mentioned fully if you cant be calm other wise dont give oneside statement. BAba its all int he game. Due to your karma. If you have brilliantness learn "Bagavat Gita", " Bagavat Gita is Ultimate and a non-religious based book which define the human activies and benefits of activities, (called as karma)". the previous statement is given by the author who got the noble prize for his english stories.
LONG LIVE DRAVIDAIANS :Ever since the transfer of power from British raj to Brahmin raj in 1947, the Pseudo-Secularist Brahmins, the Kautilyan Communist Brahmins and the Hindutva Brahmins have all been conspiring to revive the Sati custom in order to exterminate the non-Brahmin dravidians races. At the highest echelon of the Hindutva brigade one finds the leaders full of praises for sati. This is what the Brahminist leader of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad said :
" VHP Acharya Giriraj Kishore [stated]: "There is nothing wrong if any woman who cannot bear the separation from her husband opts to join him in his funeral pyre." ... "Dharmendra Maharaj [was] the priest who presided over the ritual of self-immolation committed by Roop Kanwar upon the death of her husband in Rajasthan. Dharmendra Maharaj of Jaipur, is in no mean a position within the hierarchy of the religious parliament. He is the president of the Sansad`s Kendriya Margadarshan Samiti, the steering committee of the religious parliament"
Such is the extent by which the Brahmins have brainwashed the non-Brahmin women that even Rajput women in the Sangh Parivar support the reinstatement of sati ! " BJP leaders like Vijaya Raje Scindia, the queen-mother of the royal family of Gwalior favor the now-outlawed "sati" system ("sati" was a horrible practice where the widow was burnt along with her dead husband) and the degenerate Hindu caste system where Brahmans and other upper castes remain the leaders of the society
Please don't lose your focus. Don't allow your self to be distracted from this humiliation. It is time to clutch on to the throat of the real culprits behind this conspiracy of questioning our faith in our own country. It is sheer arrogance of the organized religious army of Vatican that they can stab us makes us bleed and get away.
It is a milestone attack in the long history of Vatican's design to conquest India's spiritual terrain. Here some simple truths to gauge the designs of Vatican parivar-in which 10Janpath is an active member:
Create antibodies: Corrupt the minds of children with twisted history and erode cultural values and ethos that bind us together in India. They have been largely successful in this as our own people argue against our value system, culture ad religion.
Occupy political space: After dividing us create vote banks-combining Christianity with Islam and other castes (which change in each region) to conquer power or start dictating the government.
What we are seeing today is rapid progression of Vatican parivar towards logical conclusion to achieving this dream of conquering spiritual terrain of India. By DICTATING THE GOVERNMEN TO ANNOUNCE RAM NEVER EXISTED they are preparing for a final assault.
Wake up from your deep slumber; don%u2019t fall in to the trap of slavery once again. Don%u2019t let these attackers go unpunished
BY -ANJALI KASHYAP DT - 15 SEP 2007 What the hell all political leaders are doing with the Ram Setu! All the political leaders just raise a issue to collect votes from the innocent public but by doing this , they are creating a problem for themselves. And if political leaders are raising a question over Lord Rama Identity weather he was alive or not ... so firstly proove the significant role of river Ganga water which is consider to be sacred water on this earth in which none of insects live weather people kept it in their homes for several years...So none of them raise a question over Ram's Identity. And Ram Setu is also among of them.So its a prestigious gift of God which he has given to us and it shouldn't be broken it at any posible way. And all political leaders must keep in mind, for the sake of peoples vote they are playing with indian's moral and social values by which they will break hearts of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. The Hindu's are only the community who are never agree on one base. Why? someone is saying that Rama is not there and others are following it. If this was happeing with Kuran Sharif & Bibal so no any person from Muslim community & no one who is following Bibal sits quitely. Only Hindus are not agreed and just bcz of some politics reason.So its my humble request to all Indians , if you are true indian or want to save your culture then please move your step forward by which no body can raise a question over our culture identity weather Lord Rama ALIVE OR NOT .
What the hell all political leaders are doing with the Ram Setu! All the political leaders just raise a issue to collect votes from the innocent public but by doing this , they are creating a problem for themselves. And if political leaders are raising a question over Lord Rama Identity weather he was alive or not ... so firstly proove the significant role of river Ganga water which is consider to be sacred water on this earth in which none of insects live weather people kept it in their homes for several years...So none of them raise a question over Ram's Identity. And Ram Setu is also among of them...So its a prestigious gift of God which he has given to us and it shouldn't be broken it at any posible way. And all political leaders must keep in mind, for the sake of peoples vote they are playing with indian's moral and social values by which they will break hearts of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. The Hindu's are only the community who are never agree on one base. Why? someone is saying that Rama is not there and others are following it. If this was happeing with Kuran Sharif & Bibal so no any person from Muslim community & no one who is following Bibal sits quitely. Only Hindus are not agreed and just bcz of some politics reason. So its my humble request to all Indians , if you are true indian or want to save your culture then please move your step forward by which no body can raise a question over our culture identity weather Lord Rama ALIVE OR NOT And if we break this chain then
