RE:HINDU
by Ramasubbu on Oct 17, 2007 01:07 PM
You are quite close to real history of hinduism. Hinduism is only 500 years old, Vedic religion came along with Aryans is 2000 years old.
Saivism or Jainism is atleast 5000 years old , proof and evidence found in indus valley civilization.
RE:is there anything that can convince you on the existence of Sri Rama?
by Ramasubbu on Oct 16, 2007 10:27 AM
Ram cannot be historically proved...So he didn't exist. I think Harry potter cannot be god, just because there is a book on him.
RE:Vedic blunder
by Ramasubbu on Oct 15, 2007 06:10 AM
The "Piltdown horse" story has its comic side, but it touches on a central problem in Indian history. Horses were critical to Vedic civilisation, as we see in Vedic texts describing horse sacrifices, horse raids, and warfare using horse-drawn chariots. I f Rigvedic culture (normally dated to the last half of the second millennium BCE) is identified with Harappa, it is critical to find evidence of extensive use of domesticated horses in India in the third millennium BCE. In the case of Hindutva "revisioni sts" like Rajaram, who push the Rigveda to the fourth or even fifth millennium, the problem is worse. They must find domesticated horses and chariots in South Asia thousands of years before either existed anywhere on the planet.
RE:RE:Vedic blunder
by Ramasubbu on Oct 15, 2007 06:13 AM
Evidence suggests that the horse (Equus caballus) was absent from India before around 2000 BCE, or even as late as 1700 BCE, when archaeology first attests its presence in the Indus plains below the Bolan pass. The horse, a steppe animal from the semi-temperate zone, was not referred to in the Middle East until the end of the third millennium, when it first shows up in Sumerian as anshe.kur (mountain ass) or anshe.zi.zi (speedy ass). Before horses, the only equids in the Near East w ere the donkey and the half-ass (hemione, onager). The nearly untrainable hemiones look a bit like horses and can interbreed with them, as can donkeys. In India, the hemione or khor (Equus hemionus khur) was the only equid known before the horse; a few specimens still survive in the Rann of Kutch.
RE:RE:RE:Vedic blunder
by Ramasubbu on Oct 15, 2007 06:24 AM
Conclusion: Rigveda and Mahabharat talks about Horses, chariots, but Horses did not exist in India before 2000 years. So does Vedic Hiduism, Ram , and Brahmins. Vedic brahmins literally converted the story and also converted dravidian religion as Hindu religion.....
Can some one tell me how Tirumala tirupati( a dravidian temple) and many others in kanchipuram madurai and all over south came under the control of vedic brahmins??????????
I don;t think we can ever get facts in brahmin version of Indian history.....
RE:Vedic blunder
by Lakshmipathi Srigiriraju on Dec 17, 2007 09:56 AM
Very nice way to through crap on Brahmins. If you do not believe in some thing, you don't. May I ask you one question, if you dad shows you a picture of his own granfather, whom I don't imagine you have seen (unless otherwise), and asks you to believe, will you or will you not? Its the same ting with puranas, they are stories around God's own creation. Its upto you to believe or not to believe, and please for God's sake, do not push others to follow what you believe, which is not good. Take a break and do some thing good thats good for you.
The name of Ram is chanted everyday in the west. In every major town in UK for example. In every school, Yoga is taught and 'Aum' used for meditation. In USA, locals are flocking to become Hindus. Hinduism is the fastest growing religion in New Zealand.
Prior to invasions and colonisation, India was one of the richest countries in the world (one of the reasons for being invaded). Trading with Romans and Egyptians, brought in gold in exchange for spices. The poverty seen today is a result of colonisation, Indians had survival age of less than 30 at independence.
Time to work together to get back to richness of the past, and for scientific achievements that were given to the world by Hindus excluding the term zero, surgery and advanced math.
Watch Michael Wood's doumentary 'The Story of India' for history.
As for Ram Sethu, no archaeological work has been done. And it makes little marine sense (ships will need to slow and need pilot, and the area will need dredging every year). So, it is a political - not scientific argument.
RE:RE:please don't use place to spread haterd
by TIGER MAN on Dec 04, 2007 08:51 AM
MR CHRISTIAN...COME OUT WITH YOUR RIGHT NAME.....ANYWAY....GOD RAM WAS KING OF HIS NATION 1ST AND HIS WIFE WAS NEXT....
RE:RE:please don't use place to spread haterd
by Ritesh on Oct 16, 2007 02:56 PM
I am sad to see what you are missing by staying biased to hinduism or any other religion. The basic principles of any religion are clean. It is upto humans to misinterpret and twist it. Unfortunately this has happened a lot in Hinduism over ages and so in other religions also. If you go to any place where you get information about vedanta, vedic documents, mainly they preach what is the right way of living. I myself dont believe in god with 10 hands and legs, but I do believe in a supreme power (vishnu) and correct principles of living which is what hinduism is about. This power may be imaginary but it is powerful source of fearlessness and positiveness in life. Think about non-existence after death. In the same way, every epic/ story has some goal/ preaching in it. It's upto us if we want to learn positive aspects of it or negative. Also, the only thing convinces me that rama and krishna existed (maybe just as a human being)is the fact that the accuracy with which these epics were written was either the authors were genius and could see the country span from checnya (where kaikeyi is supposedly from) to sri lanka or these were based on partial facts. sanskrit has always been hard to interpret since mainly things were written in poetic forms.. not everything has to be taken in literal sense..
The Lord surveyed the Ram Setu and said "Hanuman, how diligently and strenuously you and your vanara sena had built this bridge several centuries back. It is remarkable that it has withstood the ravages of the climatic and geographical changes over centuries. It is indeed an amazing feat especially considering the fact that a bridge at Hyderabad built by Gammon using latest technology collapsed the other day even before they could stick the posters on its pillars."
Hanuman with all humility spoke "Jai Sri Ram, it is all because of your grace. We just scribbled your name on the bricks and threw them in the sea and they held. No steel from TISCO or cement from Ambuja or ACC was ever used. But Lord, why rake up the old issue now."
Ram spoke "Well, Hanuman some people down there want to demolish the bridge and construct a canal. The contract involves lot of money and lot of money will be made. They will make money on demolition and make more money on construction. "
Hanuman humbly bowed down and said "Why not we go down and present our case"
Ram said "Times have changed since we were down there. They will ask us to submit age proof and we don't have either a birth certificate or school leaving certificate. We traveled mainly on foot and some times in chariots and so we don't have a driving license either. As far as the address proof is concerned the fact that I was born at Ayodhya is itself under litigation for over half a century, If I go i
RE:Loard Rama presents his case
by on Oct 14, 2007 07:36 PM
In response to Mani Sals: The bridge has withstood everything for all these years for the same reasons that: 1. Jesus was born with no evidence of conception 2. We are still not sure who sired Jesus- but we still respect him as Almighty so as to not offend people that believe in it 3. the same reason water all of a sudden becomes holy to be dipped in by host 4. the same reason Our Lady of Lourdes continues to perform miracles with no scientific proof. AND- yes to be beatified and then become a Saint- there has to be proof of miracles (in the dictionary that means - no scientific proof) SO- we may have not the science behind everything in all relegions- but atleast we should have the common sense and humanity to accept all relegions
Hinduism is the oldest living faith, name does not matter, it is belief that is important!
Hinduism is the only faith that is consistent with science in terms of age of universe, earth being round etc. No other faith comes close. So, why not truly research and find out the truth - it will be consistent with Hindu beliefs like other facts before.
RE:Science Backing
by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 10:03 PM
I have belief in Ram and Ram's 330 million Gods. All the animal faced gods are also my favorite belief. Good for me. HInduism is 500 years old and hinduism is sysnonymous to brahmin slavery or vedic slavery.
RE:RE:Anti Indian Trojan Hourses
by on Oct 09, 2007 09:09 AM
dalits were given a bad treatment in the past due to the food habits they were following. no one can have a complete picture of the reasons. for sure the caste system were based on the profession one chooses to be, as evident from the case of valmiki himself. dont talk a foolsh talk without having a complete sense indian history you fool,
RE:RE:RE:Anti Indian Trojan Hourses
by Ramasubbu on Oct 12, 2007 10:54 PM
Hinduism was born 500 years ago. Named by britishers. Now Ministers including BJP, TAKE bribe from missionaries to convert poor Hindus to christians. Almost full kerala, Tamilnadu, Tribal belt of Orisaa, MP, Nagaland, manipur, Meghalya , all slums in Chennai, Bombay have already converted to Christianity.
Can hindu Ram rajya give them decent life.
Do you want the world to believe all fake gods of hinduism who never existed?
Do we all get on to untouchability, caste system, devdasi, child marriage, animal sacrifice? forget Ram, Jesus, Allah, they are no body. They couldn't save their own wife, own life, how they can protect you. Did Ram exists in America?
Unfotunately we are good in mythological bridges and cranes ( hanuman) , but in reality we are only night soil lifters. We are all sudras, Rakshashas, Dalits made by hinduism. That is why they convert to christianity.
Would you allow dalits, shudras to temple and allow him to do pooja of Ram? Does Ram hate them?> why only brahmins do pooja. Hinduism is nothing more than brahmin/aryan slavery. We are used to slavery no matter it is brahmin/aryan, britishers, muslims or America or europe. We still be begging and continuing our bogus Ram rajya. Jai ram, Thank you did not spoil othr countries .
RE:RE:RE:RE:Anti Indian Trojan Hourses
by on Oct 14, 2007 07:42 PM
Mr. Ramsubbu, God bless your pathetic sould, for you are lost beyond any spiritual, emotional, logical, scientific repair.May all those that you claim that are converted to Christianity be the counterbalance to all those that are converting to Hinduism in the west. The ONLY difference being what is happening in the west is completely voluntary with no coercion, bribe.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Anti Indian Trojan Hourses
by Ramasubbu on Oct 17, 2007 02:39 PM
God bless all these fake Vedic gods: --------------------------------- Hinduism has no respect for fellow human being (dalits, shudras, dasyus, night soil lifters), women (sex object) etc.
But it has lot of respect for imagniary , non existing gods and figures. Hell with humanity, let us only talk about Gods.
Who benefits from this kind of social setup? You , me , they or someone who doesn't exist or some one who survives on the name of non-existing fake concepts.?
Now I know where Ram, and other Vedic gods originate from and from where Rakshshaas, Ravanas originate from !!!!
It is not the matter that Ram setu is builded by Lord Ram or not but its shouldnt b the matter of politics.Indian GOvernment plays a mystrisious role in this matter. the gvt has no right to ignor & criticise the hindus faith.Gvt shoul save the Ramsetu AND THINK ABT ANY ALTERNATIVE OF SETUSAMUSRAM......
