I met ARR at his house when he was recording songs for the movie Duet. Mr. Annanthu (Who is no more) was a good friend of mine and he took me to watch the recording. I had a chance to spend few hours with ARR watching him work and chatting with him during the breaks. He was very humble and was more interested for me to talk about my work than talking about himself. He played some of his recent recordings and asked my opinion. I had a great time and spent until 11PM at his house along with Mr. K. Balachander (producer of Duet) and Mr. Vairamuthu discussing Tamil movies and songs.
This film hurt my religious sentiments: - One instance the Hindu mob says: "They are Muslims. Let us hit them," and the hapless Muslims cry as they flee in terror: "The Hindus are coming! The Hindus are coming." -On the TV show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Jamal is asked a question by the TV host: "What weapons does Lord Rama bear in his hands?" Our Muslim hero answers: "If there was no Rama, my mother would have been alive."
I feel insulted and humiliated in this film. Does anybody care about my sentiments since I am Hindu?
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by baski on Mar 09, 2009 01:13 AM
Incidentally, this statement was the only played aloud by pakistani media. If you cannot accept incidents as they happened, you have hardly matured as a democracy. Does anybody make a big deal about all the three oscar winners from India this year. All of them are from religious minorities. Gulzar is a sikh. Rahman and Resul are muslims. This is normal stuff in India. The events sensationalized in the movie are not. That's why they make it to the movies.
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:40 PM
I am Hindu. But u have to know one thing. Nobody is Perfect. I saw & heard that. So what? Sometimes you have to put you sentiments in the locker and go with the Tide. U will feel much better. If u can't beat them, Join them. Heard before.
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by nita desai on Mar 07, 2009 01:07 AM
When I saw movie I thought what is that. But when they were showing flash back Movie was going very fast and when they will show Dev (grown up) movie slows down. Danny Boyle made movie so BRILLIANTLY than we can leave this part by saying well "NOBODY IS PERFECT."
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:44 PM
Nobody is perfect. Sometimes u havta put your feeling in a lock and go with the Tide. You'll feel much better.
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by peter Kirubagaran on Mar 07, 2009 08:11 AM
If Babri Masjid is not demolished, lots of innocent peoples lives could have been saved. And now every year during 6th of December, you know how much tension the country is subjected to and how people are getting disturbed during their travel.
Re: Re: I feel insulted by this film
by Jitendra K Choudhary on Mar 07, 2009 08:31 AM
You are talking about Babri Masjid, think of all the pent-up feelings of Hindu's since Mogul invation in India?
Re: Re: I feel insulted by this film
by Srikumar SN on Mar 08, 2009 11:15 PM
Do not simply support a person or group or community if that is the case then we have to tell
Ayodhya temple was demolished mosque constructed.. mathura temple demolished and a mosque is constructed come down south there are so many temple who statues are demolished and disfigured by many islam rulers.
How can u have respect when other person does not have that or show that.
Re: I feel insulted by this film
by mg on Mar 07, 2009 01:03 AM
u've to feel insulted.. greedy people like are responsible for the slums in this country. muslim hero mentions"if there was no Rama or Allah, my mother would have been alive", not as in you comment.
Re: Re: I feel insulted by this film
by nita desai on Mar 07, 2009 01:11 AM
GET THICK SKIN OTHERWISE, SHAVE YOUR HEAD, JOIN HARE RAMA, HARE KRISHNA & GO UP ON HIMALAYA AND DON'T COME DOWN.
First of all everybody should understand that Oscar is not the award for Hindi Film. It is the award for English film. Rahman got this award for this music in an english film. If everybody understand this there will not be any problem. Try to make our film fare awards as famous as oscar.
Film fare awards are not giving a best actor award for an actor in English film.
Oscar is not the award for the best in world, but best in English film. Only they have one category for other languages - Best Foreign Film. But that award is just for a name sake, to make it a global award.
Re: Oscar is not for Hindi Films
by Hariharan Emerald on Mar 16, 2009 01:23 AM
So, do u mean only Hindi films represent India? What about Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali and other language films? English is the world language, accept it or defy the truth. In this small world, English is the ultimate language and USA is the mother of nations, even with a trillion dollar debt to China. Hindi is Passe, Filmfare is history. Make way for the others !
Re: Oscar is not for Hindi Films
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 10:42 PM
you got it WRONG. Movie is made by British people BUT ACTORS & ACTRESS WHERE ALL INDIAN. If Indian director had made this movie from the book, he would've made a trasy movie like Mire Nair makes, making movies in Bombay with prostitues, or Kama Sutra. Please there are nice things to show about India and if one has to show the back ground of Slumdog boy, to make a movie than ONLY Danny boyle can show it beautifully. Where were you people when Mira Nair made DIRTY MOVIES "KAMA SUTRA OR SALAM BOMBAY." PLEASE LEARN HOW TO MAKE MOVIES FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SHOW SLUM IN A NICE WAY. IF YOU DIDN'T GET OFFENDED WITH MIRA NAIR MOVIES THAN WHY NOW. BECAUSE CREW WAS BRITISH EXCEPT ACTORS.
Re: Re: Oscar is not for Hindi Films
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 10:48 PM
Do not forget. Director/Actor Richard Attenbrough made GANDHI in India. With Indian & British actors. (Sir. Ben Kingsley acted as GANDHI) Indian Govt. didn't give him permission to shoot in Raspati Bhavan. Movie was a FLOP in India BUT HIT overseas. DO KNOW INDIAN GOVT. GAVE SIR. RICHARD ATTENBROUGH "PADAM BHUSAN" PLEASE IMPROVE YOUR GK. SAME DAY I GOT PADAM SRI.
Re: Oscar is not for Hindi Films
by LA People on Mar 06, 2009 09:02 PM
Don't you know Mr. Mon..Music has no language?? Try to use some brains here! It doesn't matter if ARR got it for an English film or own own desi film. Bottom line is he is one of the best musicians India has ever produced! ARR is importnat..not the awards! He is our award!
Re: Re: Oscar is not for Hindi Films
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 10:58 PM
When a director gets the story to make a movie. It's his responsibility whom he hires to work with him and ABOVE ALL, EVERY DIRECTOR WILL MAKE MOVIE DIFFERENTLY. IF IT WAS MIRA NAIR SHE WILL MAKE IT LIKE "KAMA SUTRA OR SALAM BOMBAY" & INDIANS WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING. IT TAKES DIRECTOR LIKE DANNY BOYLE TO MAKE MOVIE SO BRILLIANTLY. HE USED SLUM KIDS WHO NEVER ACTED, MADE THEM ACT SO BEAUTIFULLY, KIDS ACTED IN THE MOVIE LOT MORE LONGER THAN FRIEDA OR DEV. ONLY A DIRECTOR LIKE DANNY CAN DO THIS.
There is no question about the talents of Rahman. I enjoy every piece of music he puts forth. But to my surprise he cut a very poor image on the Oscar stage. The speech delivered was very poor without any substance in it. This was a great stage for him to project Indian music. On both occasions on the stage he cut a sorry figure fumbling for words not knowing what to say. There is no excuse for this since every one knew that he is going to be on stage and he should have crafted out a well rehearsed speech. Very disappointing !!
Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by symbolofpeace on Mar 07, 2009 12:40 AM
you should learn that the west was impressed by his speech when he said "in the choice btn love and hate, he chose love" You have suck that up - this was Kate Winslet's speech and do you think it was great?
Re: Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by nita desai on Mar 07, 2009 01:24 AM
"LOVE & HATE" Aren't u taking words out of context.? Every word has more than 3 meanings. U have one track mind. About K.Winslet- That's the horse of the different color. If U don't have to go that way why ask for address. Riddles!!!!!!
Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:00 PM
PLEASE, OTHER ACTORS SPEECHES WERE WORSE THAN ARR. HE DID IT JUST RIGHT. SHORT & SWEET. HEARD BEFORE.
Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by Truth Teller on Mar 06, 2009 08:59 PM
Not everybody is good at everything. ARR being a very shy guy was in a very uncomfortable zone when he was asked to address the people. Not the best of speeches but not that bad either.
Re: Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by LA People on Mar 06, 2009 09:05 PM
I agree. Delivering a speech in front of the Oscars isn't a joke! Ask this Nair guy to do the same...and he'll pee in his pants ;) What ARR has achieved is important, who cares about the speech dammit??
Re: Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:03 PM
SHORT & SWEET. ARR WAS GREAT HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH WAS FAR MUCH BETTER THAN OTHERS. NO CRYING, SCREAMING, JUMPING, DANCING,DOING PUSH UPS WITH ONE HAND ON STAGE.
Re: A.R.Rahman and Oscars
by symbolofpeace on Mar 07, 2009 12:40 AM
you should learn that the west was impressed by his speech when he said "in the choice btn love and hate, he chose love" You have suck that up - this was Kate Winslet's speech and do you think it was great?
ARR's music has created the magic in some and some feel he is not worth. Well, I feel there are 2 levels in his music.
One, he is able to elevate some to his music excellency and another where he is not able to elevate them to his level. For those who have enjoyed his music have to wait for others to understand and not curse or spread hatred for their ignorance. Lets wait for give time for others to raise to the level dont curse them before they take the first step towards that.
Don't compare Rahman with any other Indian music directors as nobody can imitate his music. You just hear the background composition of Rahman, it proves he is a world class music director.
I think Rahman is just andhon mein kana raja. He is nowhere before the old stalwarts like Naushad, S D Burman, Laxmikant Pyarelal, O P Nayyar, Shankar Jaikishan, Kalyan ji Anand Ji or even R D Burman. In addition to that I dont think Oscar is the right judge for Indian music.
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by Vinu Mon on Mar 06, 2009 08:47 PM
First of all everybody should understand that Oscar is not the award for Hindi Film. It is the award for English film. Rahman got this award for this music in an english film. If everybody understand this there will not be any problem. Try to make our film fare awards as famous as oscar.
Film fare awards are not giving a best actor award for an actor in English film.
Re: Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:10 PM
ARR was told after hired by Danny Boyle that he will not make music like Hindi pictures. That's why he WON. YOU DON'T PUT A RUG PATCH ON A SILK. IT WILL STAND OUT.
Re: Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:53 PM
That's Filmfare awards Problem not to give award to Indian actors who acted in English/Hindi movies. American/British don't think like Filmfare. Filmfare people r HYPOCRITES.
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by Guest on Mar 08, 2009 04:13 PM
come on ,ur this one liner really sucks... and this suck means SUCKS got it.. rahman has surpasssed all of them in each and every terms "technology,tunes,orchestration,fame etc etc keep counting urself' icant remember any tune of likes airtel sathiya nor songs with orchestration like those in rdb dilse or take swades... compare the music of roja with those released in that same year or before and then decide ur one liners....he is the emperor not the king
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by wasal sal on Mar 06, 2009 05:56 PM
ithink u r deaf n dumb, just listen his music than make a comment , im not sayiung that those md were not good but that is past live in today dear
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by Chinnu on Mar 06, 2009 06:39 PM
Have you heard his song - Adhiradee from Sivaji the Boss. The rhythm in his music would surely make you to feel that something is very different and perfect. He is an avid experimenter and not a monotonous one.
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by amritalekshmy sudheer on Mar 06, 2009 06:22 PM
mr amitabh.from ur comments i do understand that u r very narrow minded.listen to rahaman's compositions from taal,roja,kandukondein kandukondein,alaipayuthe etc and then comment.oscars are meant for english movies.had those musicians done composition for an english movie, it would' ve fetched an oscar or two.learn to respect the work of rahaman as you do with your favourites.this is not any competition where different musiscians are participating.everybody has a unique style.they have made their own name.don't be rude.mr rahaman is a down to earth person and he really deserves the awards what he has got.
Re: Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:17 PM
CAN'T U TELL BY ARR SPEECH. SHORT & SWEET, POLITE AND TO THE POINT. HE DIDN'T LOOKED NERVOUS. PEOPLE WHO WIN SAG AWARDS 99.9% THEY ALL WIN OSCARS BECAUSE VOTING PEOPLE R THE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR OSCARS. ARR KNEW HE WILL WIN. WE ALL KNEW MOVIE IS GOING TO WIN MORE THAN 3 OSCARS.
Re: Andhon mein kana raja
by k dharmaraj on Mar 07, 2009 03:05 AM
mr amitabh..listen to newyork nagaram by rahman ..then talk abt music..all these ppl u have mentioned were greats of the bygone era and u cant compare them now with rahman
I sincerely believe that the 2 Oscars Rahman received are a combined result of substantial and insurmountable ignorance of foreign audience about our Indian music and the cohesion it seemed to have brought about in the overall impression the movie created about India`s overpowering poverty. Coming from South as he does, he has leaning favouring quicker rhythm in his music. He will never be able to come close to people like OP Nayyar, Madan Mohan etc. who brought the very essence of the majestic, melodious Raga-based tunes into film music. I do not grudge him his fortuitous success as Oscar is a hugely saleable label. But, if you ever watch Rahman playing in the open ground on his electronic synthesizer our Rashtra Geet - Jana Gana Mana .. especially the words Jaya he, Jaya he, Jaya he, when he pretended as if he was producing a long "alaap" on that instrument giving it everything he had, you would immediately spot the phoney in him.
Re: AR RAHMAN
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:20 PM
FIRST-ONE THING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANOTHER. SECOND-TAKE OF YOUR ROSE COLOR GLASSES. (THIS IS AN EXPRESSION-YOU R LOOKING AT THINGS WITH DIFFERECT POINT OF VIEW.)
Re: AR RAHMAN
by Truth Teller on Mar 06, 2009 05:45 PM
Having seen your other posts on Rediff, I can say that you are someone who thinks without hatred in your mind towards anybody. I do agree with your thought on most topics but here I beg to differ. Oscar was not a celebration of Indian music nor is it a certification that ARR is the best in the world. Whosoever thinks so is fooling himself. It was just the best one among all the movies released last year. This music sounded fresh to the westerners and they lapped it up. Also the competition this year wasnt as fierce as usual. Had SDM been fighting against some wonderful score, it wouldnt have won. It might not be right to compare him with the legends of the previous generation. It is not that he is not capable of doing such scores, but such scores would hardly sell when it competes with Himesh and Pritam. It is a mixture of hard work and luck that he won the Oscars. Hard work gave him the recognition so that Danny Boyle works with him. That the quality of musical scores this year was his luck.
Re: AR RAHMAN
by Vinu Mon on Mar 06, 2009 08:54 PM
First of all everybody should understand that Oscar is not the award for Hindi Film. It is the award for English film. Rahman got this award for this music in an english film. If everybody understand this there will not be any problem. Try to make our film fare awards as famous as oscar.
Film fare awards are not giving a best actor award for an actor in English film
Re: Re: AR RAHMAN
by uncle sam on Mar 06, 2009 11:25 PM
THAN WHAT WAS "GANDHI" SIR.RICHARD ATTENBROUGH MADE MOVIE WITH INDIAN/AMERICAN ACTORS. ALL SHOOTING DONE IN INDIA. GANDHI FLOP IN INDIA, HIT OVERSEAS. THAN WHY INDIAN GOVT.GAVE "PADMA BHUSAN" TO SIR. ATTENBROUGH. IT'S THE SAME STORY HERE. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. GANDHI WAS NOMINATED FOR OSCARS BUT LOST.
Re: AR RAHMAN
by symbolofpeace on Mar 06, 2009 05:02 PM
There cannot be any more ignorrant than you are, I bet. Creativity is solely individual. What a loser like you can do is compare and talk nonsense. Just compare yourself as to what have you done which somebody can think it was great.
Re: Re: AR RAHMAN
by domino on Mar 06, 2009 05:51 PM
BOSS, THERE IS ONLY ONE MUSICIAN IN LAST 50 YEARS A. R. REHMAN...
ALL OTHER NAIYAR, FAIYAR, MADAN, FADAN ARE NOTHING COMPARE TO REHMAN. OLD SONG IS POWERFUL DUE TO THEIR LYRICS AND NOT THE MUSIC...ALSO OLD DUDES WERE ARROGANT. WHILE REHMAN STILL IS GOD FEARING HUMBLE GUY.
Re: Re: Re: AR RAHMAN
by nita desai on Mar 07, 2009 12:43 AM
ALL NAIYAR, FAIYAR, MADAN, FADAN ARE "GONE WITH THE WIND." IT'S NOW ONE & ONLY ARR. GET IT. TRUTH IS BITTER BUT FACT IT.
Re: Re: Re: AR RAHMAN
by Truth Teller on Mar 06, 2009 06:25 PM
Posting the message in upper case is considered arrogant. "Only one musician in last 50 years "... This shows your arrogance as well as ignorance. Cant reason with you.
