Proud to say that Mr.rahman is the first indian muslim whos sng "vande mataram" and shut all activists mouth.U r really a great man Mr.rahman as an indian I salute you.
Re: vande mataram
by bhavnesh kalra on Jun 18, 2009 03:05 AM
Hi Krisha... Why do we talk of Hindu/Muslim...? We are Indians... ! India will be a better place when we even stop referring people as Hindu/Muslim... No offence
A R Rahman Bhai Music wil be liked only by the person who has patience to listen each and every music which is played in background. When i heard the song Lukha chuppi from Rang de basanti it was a long time listening to such a beautiful song, both lataji and Rahman bhai gave there best vocals with an enchanting feeling til the end of the song. I am die hard Fan of Rahman Bhai and Insha Allah since i am also from Chennai would definitely meet him once and praise him for his work in making INDIA to feel proud of his music. JAI HOO
A.R Rehman is a good keyboardist and electronic music technician with great skills, no doubt about it. But his popularity is due to his skills in programming and handling the synthesizers which he uses to create interesting sounds and effects than pure music. If one removes these effects from his compositions, there is hardly any melody left in them which one could not remember for long time (except few numbers) I would only rate him as a good music technician and a sound artist than a real music genius. Unfortunately, as far as Hindi film music is concerned after RDB, there is such a big vacuum left with none worth even mentioning about and can not even be compared to ARR at all. Ilayaraja is the greatest composer India has ever produced (for whom ARR was working as a keyboardist in his early career) but unfortunately his music did not travel beyond south as it can not be understood by the masala loving north and any way he did not care to compose for hindi films except for few (Hey Ram, Cheenikum etc). His music is natural and rich and very melodious, composed with a rich blend of traditional classical as well as western style with a big and sophisticated symphony type orchestra and will always stand test of time.
Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by jitendra verma on Jun 17, 2009 11:51 PM
he is not only a good music technician t ,he is also good singer . besause ye jo desh hai mera from swdesh ,and jai ho from slum dog milliner was the world class and superb song. i like him very much. i think india can not produce like this singer and musician .
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Yogesh Tyagi on Jun 02, 2010 08:42 PM
JAI HO is not a good song man, its Media Hype only, otherwise Ye jo Desh Hai Mera is much-much better...You know, Western People don't have sence of Hindi music...They go with words, people, & Media...SM is directed by English director DB & ARR was a composer in the movie & also a popular so of course they take his JAI HO song, otherwise This song doesn't have good to listen...even Gulzar saab, who wrote the song, said this is not good Song & because of Media, its get hyped and get an OSCAR too..
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Yogesh Tyagi on Jun 03, 2010 12:42 AM
JAI HO is a Media Hype only, Not a great song even its not a very good song too. Ye jo Desh Hai Mera is much-much better...seems you don’t know about western. western People don't have good sense of Hindi music...In 95% cases, they generally go with Media, People, mouth words & ...SM is directed by English director DB & ARR was a composer in the movie & also a popular music director so of course they took his JAI HO song, otherwise This song is nothing special & doesn't have good to listen...even Gulzar saab, who wrote this song, said this is not good song of Rahman’s music. Because of Media, its get hyped and got an OSCAR too..
Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Hmm on Feb 01, 2010 10:01 AM
completely disagree. Rahman experimented with different genres of music, he composes all the way from Bhangra (Bhagat Singh) to Irish Folk to RnB..
Ilayraja rarely did all that experimentation, he used to very repetitive, both in terms of singers, orchestration, style everything.. he would done 100 songs in hindolam and it was getting monotonous..
Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Srinivas L on Jun 18, 2009 12:00 AM
I beg to differ on ur view., ofcourse RDB is a great composer but u also need to luk at a lot of his compositions.. i wud recommend u to hear "rasaathi" from Thiruda thiruda (maniratnam;s movie) where he hardly has any instrument playing..songs in taal, roja, o vennila and other such showcases of his genius.. He has to use technology coz thats wot today's genre asks for.. and there is nothing wrong with it.. though not subscribing to it.. he is the only music director to get 2 oscars!!.. so he definitly is a musical genius!
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Guru on Jun 18, 2009 01:41 AM
Yes, ARR had few numbers which were quite rhythmic and melodious especially during his early years. They were composed after long and hard work for which he took a lot of time. But his fame really undid him and the quality of his compositions deteriorated during that decade after his initial fame. Most of his numbers sounded similar with same beats and only little variations in melody. It was due to the volume of work that he had accepted within such a short time. He even acknowledged this in one of his interviews and said thereafter he would only work on limited films per year. One can notice some improvement in his recent works but still most of them are only interesting sounds and not pure and quality music. (of course, who cares for these in typical Indian formula films any way?) I think he should owe that oscar award more due to that film than his brilliance as Hollywood was mesmerized with that film during the year (due to different story, its presentation, touching lives of those in India's slums, their visual experiences in song sequences etc which entertained them in a different way than they are used to) and to add to it there were n't many good films to compete with it. If any reasonably good composer had done that film, I am sure he would have also won that oscar.
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Guest on Jun 19, 2009 01:00 AM
I like the theme of human vocals are the music for a song, but it has been tried well before by IR, in thalapathy Rakkamma song. We can say Raasthi is an extension of what IR tried in Rakkamma
Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by XBox on Jun 18, 2009 01:29 AM
I am damn sure this Guru is from tamil nadu. But 99% who hate or oppose would be an another tamilian. I too tamilian but i am die hard fan of ARR.
Ofcourse I too love so much illayaraja. We cant compare anybody for sure.
But neverthe less nobody can match to ARR. Its foolish for guru to say illayaraja couldnt succeed bz other than tamil nadu, all love masala music. People are same ofcourse taste little differs. Pls listen to Rajiv Menon - director of films and lot of jingles. He clearly say how ARR succeed in other states which was lacking with other music directors incl Great Illayaraja.
How ARR learned gazals, hindustani, Qawwali,etc thats how he succeeded in all states incl north. Other than ARR 99% no music director succeeded other than their region incl RDB was full flop in tamil or south i would say.
ARR did lot of soulful melody and illayaraja too did so much worst masalas. So nothing to compare. ARR is our man, he made us happy with so many tunes and made our moments feeling so nice by frgetting all our worries. thanks ARR. God Bless U.
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by srinivasan on Jun 18, 2009 07:36 PM
Consistency and Strike rate of ARR is way ahead of Ilayaraja. But, if you compare best of bests of both in terms of the quality of songs of Ar and IR, Ilayaraja is miles ahead.
Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by LOL on Jun 18, 2009 10:18 AM
If you purely look at the genius factor when it comes to composing, it is Illairaja that stands far above ARR - especially if you consider the times Illairaja was workng and the times of ARR and the access to technology both had. If you compare the delivery - in terms of no of songs released per year as well as percentage hits amongst those songs - Illairaja stands way far ahead of ARR. Its a pity that a careful study on Illairaja's compositons have not been made yet.
Re: Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Dinesh Kumar on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 AM
Dont agree with that. Do not forget the lyrics play a great part in mucis and the lyrics in yester years was far better compared to today. Ilayaraja was lucky in that aspect.
Ilayaraja was the undisputable music director during the 80s and mid 90s and had no competition. Almost all the films had music by him and did he give great music in all his movies? If he composed music for 10 movies may be only 3-4 had good music.
However ARR has good competition in the south from Harris Jayaraj, Yuvan Shankar Raja, Vidyasagar, etc.. but still holds his fort. And his success rate is double than that of Ilayaraja. If he composes music for 10 movies at least 7 of them have good/great music in it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by Venkateshwaran N on Jun 27, 2009 05:52 PM
The first week collections of some movies today would surpass the collections over a year-long run of some old super hits. That does not mean that current movies are super hits.
In the days of 24 hour music channels and FM radios and marketing costs being 25% of the budget of a film, songs getting popular is quite normal.
Tomorrow somebody would give a better hit rate than Rahman. Will you accept him as greater than ARR ?
Quality stands. Quality with quantity and speed out-stands. Ilaiyaraaja is outstanding.
Re: Re: Re: Re: He is a good music techniciant...but
by srinivasan on Jun 18, 2009 07:33 PM
Consistency and Strike rate of ARR is way ahead of Ilayaraja. But, if you compare bests of best of both in terms of the quality of songs of Ar and IR, Ilayaraja is miles ahead.
Once, Gulzar wrote a lyric and handed over to RD Burman to compose a song. RD got furious saying that the lyric nothing more than some para from newspaper. But Gulzar sahab was pretty confident about RD and knew that he would come up with some genius nodes. Can you guess the song?
Re: Re: Rahman contd..
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 PM
And I thought I will have to wait until tomorrow for the answer. Very true Mr. Ingale. Hats off to you. So its upto a music composer to turn anything into a melody. By the way I had to listen 10 times to Jai Ho! to understand.
Re: Re: Re: Rahman contd..
by Yogesh Tyagi on Jun 02, 2010 08:51 PM
Dear Alex, Its not upto a music composer alone...Its more up to the SINGER who make the song to listen by the people...Did you here GAZALS (specially JAGJIT SING)...In Gajals, not a much composing needs but singer VOICE matter much much more...I realized many time...The same Gazal, same Music is sung by Jagjit Sing & His wife Chitra Ji as dute but when the voice is from Jagjit's its very Southing and when the voice is from Chitra ji, its not the effect...even both are singing together for the same song, same time and same music composing...so SINGER is the Person who make the song to listen by public....ofcourse Music composer also have great role...like In Mera Kuchh Saman..see the voice...not music..
Re: Re: Re: Rahman contd..
by UmaShankar SathyaKumar on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 PM
You listened 10 times to understand Jai Ho! OMG! Go to a good doctor BOND. Because, Your brain may be DEAD as a MEAT!!
Old songa are great. But, ARR's MUSIC is the 'Talk of the WORLD'. Live with it!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahman contd..
by susil mandathara on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 PM
Umashankar , all this noise about Oscars was not because of the music or the movie , it was because the way poverty was projected to satisfy the international audience . The results are to be seen in Australia and Canada where they ask our brothers why they need a mobile when we Indians shit on the road ....Jai Ho ....Another poverty driven movie another Oscar will follow
AR Rahman may be the most sought music composer and technician but music by Himesh Reshammiya is more melodious than him. I have a hard time understanding the lyrics of the songs composed by Rahman.
Re: Rahman
by Karthik Madhavan on Jun 17, 2009 09:47 PM
I agree with u... Himesh Reshammiya and also Anu Malik's music are more melodious..REAL & LIVELY.. :) Rahman 's music is only popular in Chennai..where as Himesh Reshammiya is popular world wide..
Re: Re: Rahman
by Raj Kumar on Jun 17, 2009 09:52 PM
rehman is popular only in chennai??/lol.And you are comparing him with mr masala music director anu malik??When did himesh become more world famous than rehman??
Re: Re: Rahman
by countrycolours on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 PM
MORON , rAHMAN IS INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED COMPOSER,, AND AS AND INDIAN AND A CHENNAITE I AM PROUD OF HIM LIKE ALL OTHERS EXCEPT JOBLESS PEOPLE WHO CAN NEVER APPRICIATE ART IN ANY FORM.
Re: Rahman
by Raj Kumar on Jun 17, 2009 09:44 PM
Himesh reshamiya is boring and monotonous with no variation in his tunes.He is good only for dance numbers in clubs.I cant imagine himesh composing for movies like lagaan,taal,rang de basanti,jodha akbar and the list goes on.I cant even compare him with Rehman.The problem of you not understanding the lyrics is not rehman's problem.Rehman is a music director, not lyricist.Rehman is genius.
Re: Re: Rahman
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 09:54 PM
Again I am not challenging AR for his genius but just taking in terms of pure melody. By the way Himesh has also produced some sensational music for Tere Naam, Aksar, Namastey London, Banaras, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya and the very recent Karzz, Dashavatar etc.
Re: Rahman
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 09:55 PM
Again I am not challenging AR for his genius but just taking in terms of pure melody. By the way Himesh has also produced some sensational music for Tere Naam, Aksar, Namastey London, Banaras, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya and the very recent Karzz, Dashavatar etc.
Re: Rahman
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 09:55 PM
Again I am not challenging AR for his genius but just taking in terms of pure melody. By the way Himesh has also produced some sensational music for Tere Naam, Aksar, Namastey London, Banaras, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya and the very recent Karzz, Dashavatar etc.
Re: Rahman
by Suresh Yelamanchili on Jun 17, 2009 09:46 PM
Hi....Himesh has been a short lived music director and many of his tunes sound the same....but Rahman is Great...each of his tunes is a class in itself...dont compare anybody to Rahman.....
Re: Re: Rahman
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 09:56 PM
Again I am not challenging AR for his genius but just taking in terms of pure melody. By the way Himesh has also produced some sensational music for Tere Naam, Aksar, Namastey London, Banaras, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya and the very recent Karzz, Dashavatar etc.
Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Raj Kumar on Jun 17, 2009 10:05 PM
Rehman's ability and depth of music is more; he is more like an all rounder.If he can belt out country side punjabi tunes in RDB, he can also belt out hindustani/carnartic/sufi classical numbers like jodha akbar/taal/sakhi/guru, or club numbers like yuva/dil se with equal applomb. Himesh is good but he lacks this depth and over all ability, and he must rememeber that his nasal voice is not suitable for all kinds of songs.
Re: Re: Rahman
by Oceans Eleven on Jun 17, 2009 10:57 PM
Mr.Alex, ar rahman entered the cinema industry in 1991 with roja and his popularity started increasing from then and now 2009 still he is popular world wide.. where is himesh reshamiya now?? sine wave which has now become a flat line..
Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Oceans Eleven on Jun 17, 2009 10:59 PM
himesh's career is a sine wave,which has now become a flat line.. he was in peak for some time, but now he is zero..
Re: Re: Rahman
by mahesh on Jul 05, 2009 04:25 PM
every music director is different, A R rehman is very good composer but mking him best composer in india is really foolish i am north indian , but illayaraja is much better composer than rehman
Re: Rahman
by Sangeet S on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 PM
"Himesh Reshammiya" it seems!! I can't recollect any of his songs.. and all his songs sound the same. You have hard time understanding Rehman's songs because you're dumb and Rehman is a genius. which idiot said Rehman is popular only in chennai??!! I pity you man.. you have to improve your general knowledge..
Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Sangeet S on Jun 17, 2009 10:17 PM
Yes.. and I'm an expert in music... I breathe music.. I can appreciate good and original music! not music which is copied...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Alex Bond on Jun 17, 2009 10:28 PM
Thats what I am saying Smarty. Music should not be just for so called "experts". Everyone should enjoy and understand it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Sangeet S on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 PM
but what himesh is playing is not even music... you still haven't understood that you dumbo..
Re: Rahman
by srinivasan on Jun 18, 2009 12:06 AM
I don't where ar rahman or himesh is the best. But, one thing is for sure ar rahman will soon composing Hindi film music just the way he did it in tamil. Even if he composes, it will be hardly for a film in a year. Then i m pretty sure there will not be a even one good album might come out in the industry. God Save Hindi Film Music Industry.
Re: Re: Re: Rahman
by Sangeet S on Jun 17, 2009 10:51 PM
After all Himesh has just one award.. that too only for play back singing.. not for music composition.. and you're comparing him with Rehman!! OMG.. by any chance.. are you his relative?
Re: Rahman
by coolest on Jun 18, 2009 12:49 AM
If u wanna listened dance on music and dnt wanna understand rhythm then u can go with himeshhh... 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 Surooooooor......... lol.......
Re: Re: Rahman
by alok punjani on Jun 18, 2009 03:50 AM
Dear friends.. Its an interesting topic comparing AR and HR.. and let me tell you by my personal experience... they both are genius when it comes to performing in their own fields.. lets accept it.. I have seen shows in the US packed to hilt for HR and not AR.. but that does not make him any less popular. Both the guys know their market and the target audience.. and aim for it. BINGO.
They are smarter than we all think. Cheers... and stop squibbing about who’s the genius..
Re: rahman and not dilip,
by Suresh Kumar on Jun 17, 2009 08:38 PM
Correct Tariq palli.. i too spent 6 years in mumbai. though its a cosmopolitant city, they always ignore southies and under-estimate south indians.
Re: Re: rahman and not dilip,
by Raj Kumar on Jun 17, 2009 11:02 PM
we are talking about music sir, not food.Music has no language and region ,its divine in any form.We indians , if given a chance will divide even the GODS in to south , north, east and west indian. Pity!
