Yeah it is true..Jodha was the daughter in law of Akbar..but who cares?..it won't change my knowledge of History..i will watch is just as a movie..a fasntsy, not real.
The Rajput Princess Manmati who gave birth to Shah Jahan is a Hindu.Can some enlightened people who cry foul on Mughals tell me who is Shah Jahan..?Is he Rajput enough..? Thats why significant bulk of Aurangazeb's army is made up of Rajputs. The popular history tells only Aurangazeb destroyed temples, he gave more grants to many temples too.. People should read some history before revealing their pearls of wisom here
RE:RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by bawlachintu on Feb 17, 2008 12:59 PM
Singha you are a total moron, a bigot. Correct your evil language and spellings you moron.
RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by cynic on Feb 17, 2008 12:29 PM
what about the jizya imposed by mughals ? is that also a figment of imagination. One need not fall into the trap of RSS/VHP who want to portray a feeling of insecurity in Hindus but that does not mean past should be ignored. It was Aurangzeb's jizya policy, killing of 9th sikh guru and Jehangir's killing of Guru Arjan Dev is what forced the popular conception of mughal rule as bad for everybody except for Muslims. Of course Akbar was tolerant and much better than other Mughal Kings and not suprisingly he created the maximum wealth of all mughal kings for everybody.
RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by sadaChiddi on Feb 17, 2008 12:34 PM
You are speaking half truths..what about the tax called zakat imposed on Muslim subjects? Zakat tax was heavy as you have to pay for every god you earn unlike jizya.Mor eover once you pay jizya who dont have to particpate in the battles as you become protected citizen.
RE:RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by cynic on Feb 17, 2008 12:43 PM
zakat is a feature of Islam it is something akin to wealth tax and is imposed only on wealthy people. If Jizya is ok why did Akbar ban it, answer is simple because among all Mughals he was the most tolerant. As I said earlier we cannot judge present generation on mistakes of previous generation but that does not mean it should be forgotten. Why did Sikhs, Rajputs, marathas fight so bitterly with Mughals, why did Mughals torture Sikh gurus. You cannot just wash away.
RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by sadaChiddi on Feb 17, 2008 12:48 PM
Are you aware of how many Mughals fought against other Muslim kingdoms?? What is so special about fighting a sikh guru..? It is expansion,expansion by military means.. This is what all Kings did some also gave great rule for thier subjects..
RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by cynic on Feb 17, 2008 12:55 PM
fighting is ok, but he was forced to convert, then tortured and killed when he refused. How do you expect Sikhs to like Mughals dude ?
RE:Do Mughals belong to India??
by bawlachintu on Feb 17, 2008 12:58 PM
cynic
dont you pay tax to the Indian government you moron. Zakat is not tax imposed on wealthy people but is an oblgation for all muslims to pay 2.5% of their savings to the poor. The sikhs and Marathas faught Moguls due to territorial issuses. Your illogical comments would suggest Christianity is an enemy of Muslims becoz the USA is bombing and killing civilinas in Iraq. wake up u moron.
It is ridiculous what thes two bit so called organizations would stoop to for their two minutes of fame...we have read it in our history text books that Jodha was Akbar's wife...and it has been portrayed in so many other movies too...right fro Mughal-e-azam onwards...so what is all this fuss all about??? Enjoy the movie as a lovely love story for that is what the director wanted to convey!!!Stop all this ranting and bickering...we are becoming an extremely intolerant country....it is very unfortunate that educated people too get embroiled in such controversies!!!
RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by RANJAY KUMAR on Feb 17, 2008 12:18 PM
This beautiful love story is reminder of dark rajputana history, you freaking clown couldn't understand the insult and pain of a true Rajput. We don't glorify Man Singh, he was a traitor, we still don't marry in Kacchawa Rajputs. You are ignorant mass, prideless, senseless........
RE:RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by RANJAY KUMAR on Feb 17, 2008 12:59 PM
Yes, it is a shameful history because, Shahjahan was shameful to declare that he was a rajput. Your pathetic leftist history is ridiculous.
RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by nitin on Feb 17, 2008 12:26 PM
The royal family of Jaypur has no objection towards the film, then who hell is this so called Karni sena. Why they have come out of slip now only? where were they when the film Mughal-e-Azam released? Afterall what is a Rajput? Historians say that Rajput's all the latest of all migrants to India. They are the Huns(Barbarians) who first settled in the region of rajsthan and then accepted Hindusm. They helped Adi-Sharnkarchaya to kill buddhist Monks and in return the Adi-shankaracharya offered them the status of Kshatriya. Then various manuscripts have been created to support the emergence of Rajput's.
RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by RANJAY KUMAR on Feb 17, 2008 12:57 PM
Royal family may not have objection because then they loved their rule more than their self pride, Man singh is/was a traitor for us.
The same barbarians fought for your faith, in which you were born, they chose to fight till the hilt, Rajputs have unparallel history of chivalry, guts courage and sacrifice. Its a shame that clowns like you, disregard it, if you were infront of me, I could have cut you into pieces.
RE:RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by Ashish Kanekar on Feb 17, 2008 01:50 PM
Rajputs were/are incredibly brave - but very fragmented. They were taken advantage of...
I wonder what would have happened if the Rajputs who fought for the Mughals had joined hands with the Marathas - It would have been sayonara much sooner for the Mughal "evil" Empire.
RE:Jodha-Akbar,---a beautiful love story
by nitin on Feb 17, 2008 01:21 PM
Dear Ranjay first go and cut the ROYAL FAMILY of JAYPUR in to pieces and then talk about me.Killing unarmed Buddhist Monk is not a chivalry. Fight of Mughals and Rajput's was mainly the fight for the power.Rana Pratap and Akbar both have hinuds and Muslims in their army.Mughals ruled north India only because of great support from Rajput's.The art, culture of Rajsthan floorished under the rule of Mughals.
Many morons here dont have any standing on Indian history, thats why they color the Mugal rule as Hindu vs Muslim fight.
The truth seems strange to many
The Great Hindu King Rana Pratap's military general is a Muslim - Hakim Khan Suri The Great Maratha King - Shivaji's trusted Military general is -Haider Ali Kohari; Ibrahim Khan and Daulat Khan were prominent in the navy; and Siddi Ibrahim was chief of artillery. the issue doesnt end here Aurangazeb relied on the Hindu King Raja Jai Singh to defaet Shivaji,Two of the highest ranked generals in Aurangzeb's administration, Jaswant Singh and Jaya Singh
There are thousands of such similar examples where Muslims occupying highest military positions and Hindu Generals being the back bone of Mugal military
RSS and their pyscho organizations dont want you to know this,because their favourite pass time is to pit Hindus and Muslims citing Mughal rule in India
RE:How Mughals ruled India??
by nitin on Feb 17, 2008 12:34 PM
GOOD JOB!GOOD JOB!GOOD JOB! Shivaji had got only wound in the battle and that was to from a Hindu-brahmin. During the visit with Afzal Khan when Shivaji retaliated and killed Aurangazeb the loyal of Afzal khan Krishnaji Bhaskar Kulkarni attacked shivaji. Shivaji suvived a fatal injury just because he had a Shirstran on his head. The loyal servernt of Shivaji was Madari mahatar who was with shivaji during his visit to agra. Shivaji maharaj was a great devotee of Pir Baba Yakut. There is a mosque on Raigad, the capital fort of shivaji.
RE:How Mughals ruled India??
by nitin on Feb 17, 2008 01:23 PM
CORRECTED POST GOOD JOB!GOOD JOB!GOOD JOB! Shivaji had got only wound in the battle and that was to from a Hindu-brahmin. During the visit with Afzal Khan when Shivaji retaliated and killed AFZAL KHAN the loyal of Afzal khan Krishnaji Bhaskar Kulkarni attacked shivaji. Shivaji suvived a fatal injury just because he had a Shirstran on his head. The loyal servernt of Shivaji was Madari mahatar who was with shivaji during his visit to agra. Shivaji maharaj was a great devotee of Pir Baba Yakut. There is a mosque on Raigad, the capital fort of shivaji.
RE:How Mughals ruled India??
by abdul jabbar on Feb 17, 2008 12:27 PM
THERE WERE ISSUUES OF MUSLIM OR HINDUS. SHIVAJI MAHARAJ HAD MANY MUSLIM OFFICERS WHO HE BELIEVED ALOT. AKBAR HAD MANY HINDUS LIKE RAJA MAN SINGH A MILITARY GENERAL. BUT NOW THE TALEBANI ORGANISTION LIKE BAJRANG DAL, JANSANGH OR RSS HAVE CREATED THIS MENACE AND THEY HAVE POLLUTED THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE WITH VENOM. AND HENCE THIS IS RESULT. WE, THE INDIANS MUSLIM OR HINDUS BLINDLY BELIEVE ANYLTHING BECAUSE WE ARE ILL-EDUCATED OR OPPORTUNISTS LIKE RAJ THACKERAY OR LALY PRASAD AND AMARSINGH.UNLESS WE USE OUR MIND, THESE TYPES OF STUPIDITY WILL OCCUR EVERY NOW AND THEN.
very few hindus are sensitive to their pride as you are. majority are so soft , so tolerant , so secular that they will like to enjoy romance of helpless jodha and conqueror akbar who made a hindu king to offer his daughter to him. hindu king was also helpless because hindus were not united to put up the fight against invador mughals. so to save his kingdom rather than fight his daughter was handy for his rescue. even today the situation has not changed. we are fighting amongst us to the advantage of muslims and christians. see raj is creating problems to his own north indian brothers. he should actually try his strength in fighting against radical muslims who are bent to kill lakhs of innocent people. hindus are really in minority as they are totally devided , therefore so called minority muslims have formed real majority vote bank agaist which parties like congress and left have no choice but to lick them for the power. if maulavi in the corner of lucknow sneezes delhi feels like catching cold. see karunanidhi says ram a drunker , mf hussein freely paints naked hindu gods , till every body dont dare to utter the word on other hand these very politicians are quick to shuny out tasluim from kolkota for the fear of muslim vote bank and fatwa. hindus are digging grave for them selves by keeping quarreling amongst themselves and imbibing so called secular mentality at the cost of sel;f respect
RE:we are hindus
by KIWI CONCEPTS (NEW ZEALAND) LTD. on Feb 17, 2008 11:59 AM
I absolutely agree with you. Main thing is that we can not blam others but Hindus are same as forever. Anybody can rule easily with divide and rule on hindus.
RE:we are hindus
by sadaChiddi on Feb 17, 2008 12:00 PM
Many morons here dont have any standing on Indian history, thats why they color the Mugal rule as Hindu vs Muslim fight.
The truth seems strange to many
The Great Hindu King Rana Pratap's military general is a Muslim - Hakim Khan Suri The Great Maratha King - Shivaji's trusted Military general is -Haider Ali Kohari; Ibrahim Khan and Daulat Khan were prominent in the navy; and Siddi Ibrahim was chief of artillery. the issue doesnt end here Aurangazeb relied on the Hindu King Raja Jai Singh to defaet Shivaji,Two of the highest ranked generals in Aurangzeb's administration, Jaswant Singh and Jaya Singh
There are thousands of such similar examples where Muslims occupying highest military positions and Hindu Generals being the back bone of Mugal military
RSS and their pyscho organizations dont want you to know this,because their favourite pass time is to pit Hindus and Muslims citing Mughal rule in India
The agitation serves more for the purpose of hogging the limelight than setting the facts straight. if Jodha was in fact Akbar's daughter-in-law and not his wife, why did I have learn this wrong information from my NCERT texbook, in Std. 7? If the fact is true that Jodha was not Akbar's wife, the first place where the correction should be made is in the school history textbooks. The publishers of these textbooks should apologise for the wrong information that they are giving to the young generation of students, before the movie-makers do.
I am not justifying Gowriker, but facts are facts, and movies are more for entertainment than education. So just go ahead and enjoy the movie. It is better to channel the agitation towards those who have published this fact in print first, rather than targeting the film maker who based his movie on the information from the publications.
Politicians first used people to demolish the country now they are using it to bring down the entertainment industry.
Its SAD, out people are still monkeys after so many ages.
Jump for protesting against movies....i heard some people say "they will not keep mum if someone is interchanging relations" in history.
Wow what BRAVE PEOPLE we have....
HOW can the same people see their motherland being whipped by these dirty politicians and also what do they do when women are metted to so many crimes in the NOrth of India?
seriously people GET A LIFE! its just a film. its not like he is re-writing a history school book, like our dear bjp colleagues love to do! seriously wonkymonky says, you need to get a life!
RE:its just a film people!
by deepak on Feb 17, 2008 10:53 AM
What film??? it says about India falling into wrong hands...who the heck is Gowrikar to says Akbar was the right hand??? what kind of sucking up is this to pass judgment on despotic figures?? Why cant Gowri make a movie on the brutalities of Ghazni or Aurangzeb?? lets see if he has the spine !
RE:its just a film people!
by bharat on Feb 17, 2008 11:39 AM
deepak, very few hindus are sensitive to their pride as you are. majority are so soft , so tolerant , so secular that they will like to enjoy romance of helpless jodha and conqueror akbar who made a hindu king to offer his daughter to him. hindu king was also helpless because hindus were not united to put up the fight against invador mughals. so to save his kingdom rather than fight his daughter was handy for his rescue. even today the situation has not changed. we are fighting amongst us to the advantage of muslims and christians. see raj is creating problems to his own north indian brothers. he should actually try his strength in fighting against radical muslims who are bent to kill lakhs of innocent people. hindus are really in minority as they are totally devided , therefore so called minority muslims have formed real majority vote bank agaist which parties like congress and left have no choice but to lick them for the power. if maulavi in the corner of lucknow sneezes delhi feels like catching cold. see karunanidhi says ram a drunker , mf hussein freely paints naked hindu gods , till every body dont dare to utter the word on other hand these very politicians are quick to shuny out tasluim from kolkota for the fear of muslim vote bank and fatwa. hindus are digging grave for them selves by keeping quarreling amongst themselves and imbibing so called secular mentality at the cost of sel;f respect
