JUST 3 DAYS OF RELEASE AND HAV SEEN IT 6 TIMES THE MOST REALISTIC AND POWERFULL MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN NUTHING BUT THE TRUTH IS SHOWN IN THE MOVIE WAY TO GO POOJA LOVE U ALLLLL U R THE BEST MRURDER, ZEHER KALYUG,AWARAPAN U GUYS R THE EBST MAKE MUZZAMIL THE NEXT EMRAAN U GUYS ROCKKK AND DONT GO BY THE REVIEWER MOVIE DESERVES MUCH MORE THAN 2 STAR
I haven't seen the movie and have only your review as a reference point... Your surprise at the depiction of Sarah's face remaining intact is unfounded. If you remember the photographs of the suicide bomber who assassinated Rajiv Gandhi, her face was in tact too...
I saw Awarapan and i was flattered....i had never seen a more beautiul movie....but later i saw AKP the moviee the real luv story...and man did that suck or what!.......Dude if this is disappointing then you havn't watched RGV ki AAG .....dude i walked out in the first 10 mins i couldn't stand it!!!!!
AWSOME MINDBLOWING WHEN I SAW AWARAPAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD B D BEST MOVIE FROM THE BHATT CAMP BUT THIS MOVIE SURPASSES IT EMRAAN HASHMI NOW MUZZAMIL ANOTHER SUPERSTAR IN THE MAKING BRILLIANT MOVIE GOA HEAD WATCH IT U WILL LOVE IT
i have seen lots of posts on rediff discussion board that, we made a muslim president we made a vice president..let me tell u somethign, they elected on their merit, thier talent, their education. and u all must be noted that he was the most sucessful president of indian history . y u all say this country (india) is of hindus, this country is muslims too.. may of muslims fought for the county. many of us died for the country. its a collective sacrifice that we got independence. so wths is the big deal if u make one muslim president in 60 years. we made the rest of the presidents, vice presidents, prime ministers. we never said we made a so and so y u then????
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:04 PM
Fakruddin Ali Ahmed Hidayathullah Nazma Hephtullah Nargis Wahida Rehman (or is that Rahman) AR Rahman Dilip Kumar (Yusuf Khan) Mohd. Rafi Talat Mahmood Firoz Khan Kader Khan Pataudi Azharuddin Sharukh Khan Amir Khan Saif Ali Khan Salman Khan %u2026 %u2026 %u2026 Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam the list is endless.
True%u2026 they became celebrities / legends because of their worth. Even Hindus are because of their worth.
Unfortunately%u2026 whenever a minority is elected / elevated %u2013 they say its because of his /her worth. And when they are caught in any case, you - HYPOCRITES %u2013 are not ready to accept the truth. And the bitter truth is that you don%u2019t want to sing about your motherland %u2013 vande mataram %u2013 shame.
Count on you%u2026 where from this terrorism is coming out %u2013 is it not from the so called Islamic fundamentalist groups? It is a universal fact%u2026 as universal as the word terrorism itself.
Czech, Serb, Arab, Pak, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Afghan, India %u2013 where not%u2026 everywhere 90 per cent of the terrorism is just because of this particular Sect, all over the world.
We didn%u2019t say that it is Hindu State. But we say that there MUST BE equality. We say people should be equally looked at. Not PAMPERED for YOUR vote bank.
Come to terms guys%u2026 this is the time for a sojourn into the light%u2026don%u2019t shed hatred%u2026 shed peace%u2026 RATHER U SHOULD ONE DAY SAY THAT U R PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN FIRST
RE:RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 03:13 PM
Dear Anand - I agree with you whole heartdely & i am proud to stay in a country like india & wish to make positive contribution towards it & that should be the aim of every indian , regardless of whatever religion one may belong to.Another thing please don't blame the whole community or religion because of a few misguided muslims.
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:28 PM
Thanks for agreeing with me dear friend. But just one thing - i am not blaming the religion for sure, i am blaming it on their upbringing. The just and perfect reason for it is - education. At least learned friends like you should come forward and do something for them so that no such incidents take place in our country again. And then we can proudly claim to the whole world that it is India.
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by syed sayeed on Sep 01, 2007 07:20 PM
Dear Mr. Anand,
All the countries that you listed from where u r blaming terrorism origins, you should also know that those countries are under the control of America, England and Russia. You try to see channels like Al Jazeera, you will get true picture from where and why the terrorism is originating. Nobody become terrorist by birth, they r being made. America can settle the peace in Iraq and Palestine withiin a day if they want. but they dont want to that....because they want to produce more terrorists by humiliating the people there, so if they react, could blame the complete community as we are now seeing terrorists means from Islam.....
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 10:49 PM
The problem with muslims u guys are concerened abt all the muslims all over the world. If only every muslim is concerened abt himsle fn everythn within its boundary there wouldnt be ne Islamic terrorism. Theres a problem in p[alestine and kashmiri muslims strike. wots ur problem dude. let there be aproblem in palestine wot have we gotto do with that. just concentrate on Indian progress and forget abt the rest.
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by crush on Sep 02, 2007 09:47 AM
Dear plz don't be leacture on this issue, erver one well know most of terriost are muslim and also some indian muslim involve, if u don't remeber then let me know u some name, one person bilal(london blast person), one more Bilal (HRD blast person), Afjal guru(indian sansad attacked person).... here is big list so keep quit.
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Seeni Mohamed on Sep 02, 2007 02:47 PM
Despite, all this, we all know that, for a muslim to get ahead in INDIA, it is DOUBLY DIFFICULT than others.
Also, muslim achievers(so called ????) are only celebrated in INDIA, wheny they hide their muslim identity. If he shows any relevance or reference to his faith either be it talk or action, thats it, people will dump u forever.
We must accept the fact people are filled with hatred in INDIA.
RE:RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by S K on Sep 02, 2007 10:41 PM
abe ullu ... dont look for excuses if u fear to face a tough life ... life is tough for everyone ... there are extremists who are filled with hatred .. and u r one of them :-)
RE:Wrong approach!!!!!!!!!!!!
by on Sep 03, 2007 03:04 PM
hello, who does not face problems? even the so called forward caste people like brahmins, they also suffer by not getting seats because of quotqa system everywhere in the government. stop wallowing in self pity. eEnhance the litracy rate in the community. And reduce the birthrate to increase the economy status of the family. everything else will improve all by itself brother
Dhokha is a good Movie , It doesn't take side , The only point made is , please don't generelise the whole muslim community for the acts , i hope the readers of the rediif community also , because most of the time there is a lot religion bashing going on here , there are bad apples everywhere & in every community , the whole community cannot be blamed for that , In Dhokha Muzzamil ibrahim though a muslim & though he understands the atrocities committed on his wife , He refuses to beleive that terrorism is the way out , & i am sure a lot Muslims around the world feel the same way. Way to Go pooja , you have made brilliant movie.
without boby darling there is nothing left in ur life, sucker i asked u to visit boby darling (and all khans visit bobyy darling so u shud visit atleast once for the sake of khans, u will love her )n heloo hv u visited mental doctor or not
RE:Good Movie
by karteik kotagiri on Sep 01, 2007 01:38 PM
You are right sami. But I would like to add one point, 99% hindus are against ill treatment of minorities, it is only the 1% who like to blame the innocent muslims along with the muslims who take part in terror. It is because of hindus super tolerant nature, that the condition of muslims is better in india than even in pakistan and bangladesh which is ruled by muslims.( This is according to the human development index report of the united nations)
RE:Good Movie
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:10 PM
There is a proverbial saying in Telugu language : Cheviti vadi mundu shankham oodadam dandaga. That means there is no point in screaming before a deaf ear. Dont you feel that they too know these facts? We can awaken a person who is asleep. But we can never awaken who is acting asleep.
RE:RE:Good Movie
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:16 PM
Continued... The day is not far with all these fundamentalist groups diminish the mankind to an extent where only One third of this population shall be alive and there will be no other option but to be cooperative among themselves as one cannot survive on his own - for sure
RE:Good Movie
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 03:29 PM
Dear Anand - I would not like to take such a pessimitic view of things . The world lives on hope , & even i hope for the best & beleive me a majority of muslims to think the same , terrorism is not the way - I am sure with the co-operation with like minded people from all communities , the scourge of terrorism will be wiped out soon.
RE:Good Movie
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 01:41 PM
Dear Karteik - I agree with you whole heartdely & i am proud to stay in a country like india & wish to make positive contribution towards it & that should be the aim of every indian , regardless of whatever religion one may belong to.
RE:Good Movie
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 04:08 PM
Dear Tomahawk Missile, Talking like this does not serve any purpose ,Why don't you try to see positive things in muslims , I know ,now you will say there is nothing positive about you guys , Lol but i am sure , if you look carefully , you might notice something about us you like.& thats the spark needed to build bridges. That is my appeal to all peopel from all communities
RE:Good Movie
by Shankar Panday on Sep 01, 2007 09:34 PM
Dear Sami, If people the Bhatts continue to put people in denial with imaginary persecution stories of Muslims in India then how can you expect 'positive' ? can any one in his right mind agree that reasons given by Pooja are contributors to Muslim jihad? this is utter nonsense and can only mislead and deepen a sense of victimization in a highly volatile people. Islamic radicalism is a world wide agenda to establish an Islamic Caliphate and it clearly manifests itself from UK thru all over Europe now. Today we hear things like Dutch want Quran banned...do you thing India had anythign to do with this?? This kind of movies will do no good to your community Sami. Think about it - the hub of terrorism is Pakistan and now Bangladesh. Little girls get holed up in Laal Masjid Islamabad and hope to die?????? in Bangladesh dozes hv just been hanged. US is now considering bombing Pakistan. Now what has India or its imagined injustices done to create that?? Pooja can get away with such dangerous theories because Indians r indifferent to what goes on. Praising movies like this is further impetus to an already out of control situation.
RE:Good Movie
by sami on Sep 02, 2007 12:33 AM
Dear Shankar , I am not concerned with the worldwide islamic radicalism , what concerns me is the fact , these things didn't happen in india before , This is very recent phenomeon which is happening in india , You say "continue to put people in denial with imaginary persecution stories of Muslims in India then how can you expect 'positive' ? can any one in his right mind agree that reasons given by Pooja are contributors to Muslim jihad" - People may not like it , but it is a fact - Mind you , i am not trying to justify anything- Thats no reason to terrorise people -infact terrorism cannot be justified for anything, but these have happened in india which pooja bhatt has shown , When these things happen , its easy for the radicals to raise their heads & lead people astray, thats what worries , we never had these kind of things in india ,that is why i say , both communities have to work together to destroy this menance.
RE:Good Movie
by Seshadri Viswanathan on Sep 02, 2007 01:07 PM
Sami, don't give me that piece of crap that such things did not happen to India. This is the only countrty in the world which has been partitioned to give muslims a separate homeland. And it also does not matter that not all muslims are radical. What matters is what is their attitude towards Hindus ? If their attitude is going to be hostile, it will not matter whether they are madarsa educated or convent educated, whether they are poor or not poor, whether they wear Shalwar kameez or wear jeans, whether they speak only urdu or speak english. Further I am quite certain that muslim community is not averse to using terrorism as a bargaining chip, feigning wounded innocence all the time. Shankar Pandey is right. Such movies falsely encourage and further ghettoise the muslim community into a false sense of victimization at the hands of the Hindu community. The Bhatts have their own axe to grind against Hinduness and they are looking for allies in that endeavour, which muslim community is readily providing. But the cost is going to be heavy. One often hears that India cannot progress if the muslim community is marginalized, but all of you seriously do seem to believe that Hindu community as Hindus should be marginalized
RE:RE:Good Movie
by Shankar Panday on Sep 03, 2007 12:05 AM
Dear Sami, Think abt it..my take on the matter if there was no persecution Muslims would invent some, and Poojas of the world would add to it. If u go nit picking every little greivance can be blown out of proportion..this is where Islamic states like Bangladesh & Pakistan score..they hv thrown the baby with the bath..no Hindus in Pak so no problem..as for Bangladesh the less said the better..just in the wake of Babri dozens of HIndu temples some older than Babri were destroyed but no Pooja Bhatt were provoked..you say you dont care abt what happens in the outside world? LOL well thats the myopic vision with what intelligent people like yourself simply lead ur community down the garden path. No Muslim who loves his people unless u yurself subscribe to the Quranic theory of taking over the world, can be in denial abt what is being done aroudn the world..let Pooja go to the streets of Luton, Bradford, Leeds in England and find out the reason for Muslim angst..let her do a little rereach on why the Pak army now has to fight in Waziristan..or let her delve what created Pan Islamisim movement and caused partition of India..enough said Sami, you need to wake up or else not everyone has the patience of Hindus..you whine abt Indian conditions where 150 millon Muslims live think of US which has only experienced one 911 and has to live with no more than 9-10 million Muslims..a US senator called for nuking Mecca no less !! and a poll shows 30% Americans would like to put tags on Muslims
RE:RE:Good Movie
by Shankar Panday on Sep 01, 2007 09:38 PM
Sami there is no kaami of bridges !! what is this line of 'understanding each others religions?' thats another bogus approach. People couldnt care less if u prayed to God in Arabic or Hebrew or Sanskrit or what you thought of what happened to you after you died..who gives a rats ass?? the problem is the Jihadic mentality of your theolgy. Christians did it in medieval times and Islamics still wanting to do some primitive Caliphate wehre u chop hands and wrap women like bandages..and if you resist then u r communal and 'dont' understand Islam. Quit that line of thinking and Poojas stupid theories and you can start reforms in your community.
Reply to 'Some of the questions asked' in Dhoka - why most of the people involved in terrorism acts - are muslims?, why isnt there any other caste people involved in blasts accused and related offences? Why all the lectures are given to Hindus in India? Are Hindus pushing muslims or other castes to propagate terrorism? Hindus have guts to make a muslim president of their country. Hindus have made a muslim vice president or even the top stars in hindi film industry are muslims. Even a few years back, Indian cricket team was captained by a muslim. PLEASE DONT PREACH HINDUs ...please...enough!
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by syed hussain on Sep 01, 2007 01:45 PM
To make muslim President or Vice President for what?appease muslims only? Practically what is the use of president/vice president for the muslim community? What is the use of top stars in Hindi film? Any game does not require Hindu or Muslim but talent only.
RE:RE:Why preach Hindus?
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:22 PM
For that matter... its in ur own hands. Any muslim family has at least 10 members in it (official that is). When you dont get your daily bread and butter what will u do ... Unfortunately u dont want to control the birth rate and u blame on the government for not providing the amenities to them... Kitnonko amenities provide karen?
RE:RE:Why preach Hindus?
by Bharat Vasi on Sep 01, 2007 02:26 PM
not to appease muslims but to pass the message to you that if you are with us...hum tum ko apne sar pe bitha ne ke liye bhi taiyyar hain...lekin agar tum ko 72 hooron ki kwhaish hai to phir....allah tumhara malik hai...
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by TrueWorrior on Sep 01, 2007 02:29 PM
i have seen lots of posts on rediff discussion board that, we made a muslim president we made a vice president..let me tell u somethign, they elected on their merit, thier talent, their education. and u all must be noted that he was the most sucessful president of indian history . y u all say this country (india) is of hindus, this country is muslims too.. may of muslims fought for the county. many of us died for the country. its a collective sacrifice that we got independence. so wths is the big deal if u make one muslim president in 60 years. we made the rest of the presidents, vice presidents, prime ministers. we never said we made a so and so y u then????
RE:RE:Why preach Hindus?
by Vimal Kamdar on Sep 01, 2007 05:46 PM
if you read carefully, dear 'true worrior', I HAVE ANSWERED to the questions asked in the review above - thats it. I have never wrote that muslims are bad or such thing. The point is no OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has guts like India - where muslims can head, say, a country...It is because of our secular roots, that we do. WE CHEER EQUALLY WHEN ZAHEER KHAN SCALPS A WICKET or when SRK does a Chak DE India...AGAIN - I HAVE JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS IN THE REVIEW...SO read carefully, my dear friend, before pouncing on a 'hindu' write-up...
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by Shankar Panday on Sep 01, 2007 11:29 PM
Because Bhatts are Muslims. Mahesh had never made it a secret that his Muslim mother shaped his values. Mahesh Bhatt & Pooja go to Pakistan and talk abt free speech in India. such is the temerity of these guys.
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by anand kumar on Sep 01, 2007 03:18 PM
Bang on... Terrorism ...That too not just in India but throughout the world - u bet - any nook and corner
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 03:05 PM
The Best Point about Dhokha is it doesn't take sides , No one is trying to preach anything to hindus vimal , the movie just shows that there are bad people in every community & the whole community should not be held accountable for a few whose acts are reprehensible be it hindus or muslims.
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by sami on Sep 01, 2007 03:18 PM
Also the point is made to muslims , when muzammil ibrahim , very rightly says " Nainsaafi toh bahut logon ke saath hoti hain , iska matlab , yeh nahi hain , nirdosh logon ki jaane lee jaaye"
RE:RE:Why preach Hindus?
by Vimal Kamdar on Sep 01, 2007 05:45 PM
if you read carefully, dear sami, I HAVE ANSWERED to the questions asked in the review above - thats it. I have never wrote that muslims are bad or such thing. The point is no OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has guts like India - where muslims can head, say, a country...It is because of our secular roots, that we do. WE CHEER EQUALLY WHEN ZAHEER KHAN SCALPS A WICKET or when SRK does a Chak DE India...AGAIN - I HAVE JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS IN THE REVIEW...SO read carefully, my dear friend, before pouncing on a 'hindu' write-up...
RE:Why preach Hindus?
by nilesh parekh on Sep 01, 2007 12:25 PM
Yuppppppp ... well said Mr. Vimal ... When Hindus say something ... they are extremists ... and are cursed and targetted ... even lectured by few pathetic people and rest follow them blindly! When a muslim is stuck in something related to terrorism ... Hindus are still blamed for their stance ...
This is all crap ... Hindus are not as worst as few fanatics ...
