Manza is more feature rich and the new elan version is way better than etios interms of internal fit , trim and plastic quality. Over the years TATA is working hard to improve their after sales service experience.
Bad one car dekho team. You copied the content idea from team-bhp threads and remain biased with your views against indian car makers. Not cool.
only has competition from Swift Dzire.. Manza is not even in the race becos the Indian public just dont have faith in Tata Cars. Why to pay 6 Lacs for a Manza when u can get a Dzire or Etios. Dzire has the egdge becos of 1) Proven performance by Swift - India's favourite car 2) Good Looks 3) Most importantly - Its from Maruti, the Brand India trusts. 4) Its an Indian car, so maintenance & spare parts are much cheaper compared to a Toyota. With Maruti, no matter what, your servicing cost will never be more than Rs. 10,000 in a year
Re: Toyota Etios
by Amit Sethi on Mar 21, 2011 12:13 PM
I beg to differ on the looks front. Manza has v. classy looks, whereas swift/dzire looks appeal only to a niche/younger audience.
Re: Re: Toyota Etios
by Piyush Dhangar on Mar 21, 2011 03:22 PM
Both Manza and Dzire looks suck from back, Manza looks like a box and Dzire like a box added to Swift.
Re: Toyota Etios
by joy on May 13, 2011 09:26 AM
What abt interior, comfort & performance? :-), in this part, Dzire sucks, etios wins, with just a 4K difference (ex-showroom price) talking about Dzire VXi BS-IV & Etios G
only has competition from Swift Dzire.. Manza is not even in the race becos the Indian public just dont have faith in Tata Cars. Why to pay 6 Lacs for a Manza when u can get a Dzire or Etios. Dzire has the egdge becos of 1) Proven performance by Swift - India's favourite car 2) Good Looks 3) Most importantly - Its from Maruti, the Brand India trusts. 4) Its an Indian car, so maintenance & spare parts are much cheaper compared to a Toyota. With Maruti, no matter what, your servicing cost will never be more than Rs. 10,000 in a year
Re: Toyota Etios
by Waqaas Rumani on Mar 21, 2011 12:27 PM
I don't agree on the looks. Dzire just looks like swift given an additional butt (dickie). It looks yuck. Plus leg space in the rear is cramped. Performance is one of the best along with SX4. that's true. Plus Maruti spares are cheaper agreed. Low servicing cost agreed. Mind you, the new manza is really good when it comes to quality of performance. Don't know much about interior finish !
even if someone gives a Mahindra Xylo for free, will u take it??? :-) what is the primary purpose? is it the primary main car? or the free extra car?? :-)
I Just agree with Vipin Lanroo.Please avoid such comparisons. It is a mockery.Currently the Etios is incomparable by price and features to any other global giants on Indian roads.Tata Manza generations behind.
Re: Toyota etios Vs Tata Manza
by virat agarwal on Mar 21, 2011 11:55 AM | Hide message
moron cheap & flimsy Etios is no match to Manza...
Re: Toyota etios Vs Tata Manza
by unique ram on Mar 21, 2011 12:04 PM
Dear Mr. Jeyasimmon, do you have any car at first place. what you know about features in a CAR. TATA MANZA has sold over 6000 cars last two months. Even after one year Etios will not come close to MANZA. The interior material used for bringing down the cost lowzy by TOYOTO. The interior quality material cannot be campare with MANZA. I checked with both the vehicle. Etios may be little bit more in pickup, that will not help in city conditions. You will drive the car always in the highway. Better first know the meanng of quality and then talk about gloabal giants.
Hope you understand why commented in the above manner. Pls donot degrade anyone with out proper knowledge of the product.
Re: Re: Toyota etios Vs Tata Manza
by Piyush Dhangar on Mar 21, 2011 03:24 PM
Soon we will see Manza as Taxis and then cry.Also the back of Manza sucks.
Re: Re: Toyota etios Vs Tata Manza
by Aditya on Mar 21, 2011 12:08 PM
Your Manza will start making all kinds of sounds after a few months while running, just like Indigo or Indica.. Tata cars are only good for Taxis
Re: Re: Re: Toyota etios Vs Tata Manza
by manoj on Aug 07, 2011 09:27 AM
I think it should be a known fact that only reliable vehicles get picked up as taxis. I havn't driven either of them but still feel if so many taxi drivers who drive this car regularly prefer this vehicle it must be good. Remember Toyota Qualis, it was a good vehicle, so got picked up as taxi
Also a recommendation to people like Ram and Joy. We are discussing cars here not english language or spelling. So discuss issues not trivia
No one seems to compare with Fiat Linea. I own a Fiat Linea. My only complain against that car was the ground clearance was 161 mm. The Car (petrol version) is giving me an Average of 15KMPL without AC and 11.8 KMPL with AC in City. Whereas on Highways it gives me 19 KMPL and 17KMPL with and without Ac respective. I have clocked a top speed of 195 KM/HR on the Mumbai Pune Expressway with it. Easily reaches 170 KM/HR. The car doesn't give a knocking even when driven in 5th Gear at 20 Km/hr. Interiors are top class. Leg Space is good (slightly less then Manza but better than Etios) Huge boot space (Better than Manza, less than Etios but more practical than etios) The new Linea though comes with 171 mm clearance. Which I feel solves the problem of low ground clearance. And how I wish they allow to modify my model with that much clearance. 161 mm is a pain on big speed breakers and when 5 people are sitting in the car. The only thing at present is the price tag has gone up. 8.6 lac for top end petrol. I bought the previous edition one for 7.84 lac. However, the diesel variant i have heard from many gives around 17 KMPL in cities and 20 Kmpl on highways easily. If people are worried about Service and other things, the tie up with TATA easily takes care of it. And the service is goof.
Re: How about Fiat Linea?
by Waqaas Rumani on Mar 21, 2011 11:45 AM
19KMPL without AC and 17KMPL with AC on highways.*** Plus according to me it looks better than Manza and Etios. When I speak about practicality of boot space, it's the volume I am talking about. Linea has more floor area in boot space where Etios has more volume. Boot space in linea is 500 litres & Etios is 595 Litres. Manza is 480 Litres.
Re: Re: How about Fiat Linea?
by Waqaas Rumani on Mar 21, 2011 11:52 AM
Linea comes in the same segment as Manza and Etios. It has a Ferrari 1366cc engine which is exactly the same one used in Manza. Manza engine is tuned more for mileage whereas comparatively, linea is tuned for balance of performance. The only difference in Manza and Linea is the Design and Quality of it. Else, feature wise too, it's exactly the same. Another thing is the slight variation in price. Linea interiors and finish are top quality whereas Manza interiors and finish give impression of cheap plastic and poor quality. However, Manza has excellent ground clearance. 190 mm. Plus loads of leg space. Comfort
Re: Re: Re: How about Fiat Linea?
by virat agarwal on Mar 21, 2011 11:58 AM
I apreciate ur knowledge..but whr Linea truely shines apart is: Strong build, Excellent ride and handling, steering feedback goregous looks..better compare Linea with Vento and city then only it's Apple to Apple comparison...
Re: Re: Re: Re: How about Fiat Linea?
by Waqaas Rumani on Mar 21, 2011 12:21 PM
City and Vento come for an on road price of around 12 lac (top end petrol). that's 3.5 lac more than Linea top end. and 4 lac more than Manza top end. Plus internal luxury features such as blue & me and voice dialing etc. are not there in Honda city. Civic and Accord have a similar system.( they cost more than 14 lacs ) Though I have heard that the latest vento version is going to have it. So I guess, that Linea is either not positioned well or people don't understand that it's a C segment car in competition with Etios, Manza, Dzire, SX4, Verna etc. Mind you, SX4 and Dzire have the best engine performance. Fantastic feel. But I don't like Dzire look. and SX4 has cramped leg space in the rear. Else People should go for Maruti SX4. Fantastic car ! Though look wise, I like only Linea, City and Civic.
Etios is not a car designed for India as highly paid media is wrongly advertising etios is a flopped Indonesian Echo car .After selling unsafe parts in US market Lexus camry vehicles have been under scrutiny of strict US authories who have banned Lexus due to accelerator ,brake failures which costed loss of human life.But in India no authorities have bothered to check the front hood and the side pillar weakness of Etios .Having seen Suzuki omnis being sold inspite of highest deaths have taken lace in Suzuki vehicles Toyota is next in the list to make money
Re: tata manza more safer
by joy on May 13, 2011 10:46 AM
Etios is not a car designed for India???
Did u see the ground clearance? 170mm which country in the world needs such ground clearance? US? Did you compare with Manza?? its 165mm
do u know, why it was a flop? its becuase of unusual centralized gauge cluster, which we dont care, as we have such cars
I agree about failures, most deadly ones are old, 1999 & 2000 models, they are really bad, lexus&camry models recently there are some, but it was due to foot carpet middling with accelerator, etc. are there any failures in other models, wat abt toyota innova? but suzuki, toyota, etc. and others have problems may be a "new" model from indian car maker has some problem and someone dies
so shud we not buy any vehicles at all? anything can happen solutions? 1. go slow 2. see the road & ppl walking on it 3. make sure u know, what is a hand-break & how to use it "slow"
i read reviews on break failures on lexus and camry the reviews are very recently till 2008 models
i decided, not to kill anyone on road :-) (i may not go to jail, but still killing other is not good too) so, i quit supporting toyota cars, and, wont buy a toyota car now actually car is excellent, but break is the heart for the car, for a customer
Re: Re: tata manza more safer
by Mono on May 16, 2011 09:33 AM
Read online that a December 2008 bought car (2 months old) had same break problems
Dealer guy (a very polite guy) called me back to check on the buying of etios
I checked with the dealer abt break failures
Dealer admitted that what i told is "100% perfectly correct" (in his own words)
Dealer also added that same problem came with Toyota Innova in the 1st few months, but in 2009 they have changed the breaking system so it is good now
however, a week earlier, when i visited 1st time, i asked the same dealer guy, abt re-calls of toyota due to defects, he put his face as if he dint knew anything, and now a week later as i gave more info. he admitted everything
simply put the toyota has TRUST beside its name, however dealer guy hide this break failure story, so i lost the same trust on Toyota, so i dint buy
The only attribute that you can compare between Toyota and Tata is the letter T. Tata have given us a lot of pride by acquiring Rover, but their own line of passenger car vehicles has a long way to go before they can ever imagine taking on the jewel of the Japanese passenger car industry, the new Tata Indigo Manza ad notwithstanding.
