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whatswrongpeople
When Raja was "Doing It"
by whatswrongpeople on Nov 16, 2010 06:10 PM  | Hide replies

Why PMO, Finance and Law ministeries were blindfolded themselves - For all those foolish Indian voters who think Politics is Social Service - The parties in Coalition vie for plum ministeries - Why ? Because they will rake moolah for next 5 years - You mean to say Sonia or Manmohana and Tiwari never knew about it ? Then why congress is worried so much and supporting their fellow corrupt minister.... "When Raja was Doing It - Why PM and Sonia were quietly WATCHING it " ? Did Raja loved watching him "Doing It" ? or it was agangbang stuff where everyone had share in it.



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Vivek Dev
Re: When Raja was
by Vivek Dev on Nov 17, 2010 08:26 AM
Right

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Rajagopalan
Re: When Raja was
by Rajagopalan on Nov 16, 2010 09:40 PM
All the three top peolple were having their fingers in their mouth

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Ranji
Aviation in loss Again– hang him for causing loss
by Ranji on Nov 16, 2010 06:00 PM

If Government does not know how to do business, no point staying in business. Good Government must show profits . or else they disqualify to participate in next Govt. or disqualify to contest election.

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Ranji
Ambanie’s are root for Corruption.
by Ranji on Nov 16, 2010 05:52 PM

Ambanie’s are root for Corruption.

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Ranji
Nationalize RIL and Bar Ambani's from doing Businesses.
by Ranji on Nov 16, 2010 05:48 PM

Nationalize RIL and other petroleum companies. Energy should not be in the hands of private corporate.

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Clean
Raja
by Clean on Nov 16, 2010 05:42 PM  | Hide replies

Raja motto is "more companies and competition, less call rate",
He brought more companies for competition that whats today call rate
is 1paise/per second. Operator like Airtel,reliance,Aircell and Idea are
getting much more profit as telecom operator. When Raja entered cabinet, he has
given first check to this operators by strenthern BSNL. And he brought more
companies like uninor,videocon hence competition happened, call rate reduced.
Now this 2G allocation, he has given more license for small companies.
Note here, small companies cannot install tower and other equipment to transfer voice
over network. But big companies like airtel,reliance,vodafone have widers network
equipment. So small companies must have to use BSNL network hence bsnl may get rent from
small telecom companies.

Suppose, Big operators like Airtel,vodafone,Reliance,Tata got spectrum which worth
1.7 lacks crore, Is it possible them to earn money with current tariff plan?? which is currently
highly enjoyed by commen men??? My question is, How companies make profit over 1.7 crores without
increasing call rate,sms rate??. If we go less call rate which does not affect common men and at
the same time govt. also earn 1.7 lacks crore then Raja is culprit and he should be hanged in
front of the public. If govt will earn 1.7 lack crores but call rate will increase to get back the
money which makes common people suffer then what is the worth of 1.7 laks crores?


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NEELAKANTAN R
Re: Raja
by NEELAKANTAN R on Nov 16, 2010 05:52 PM
Gentlemen, few companies who got licence sold the same at a high rate and never operated their licence. Because you pay less does not give a freedom to do corruption. As per your argumentwhat ever money (greasing) being paid in for any government jobs is not a corruption. if so why we have CAG, CVC and otehrs which is a waste of money as per your view

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Clean
Re: Re: Raja
by Clean on Nov 16, 2010 09:19 PM
NEELAKANTAN R
      Re: Raja
by NEELAKANTAN R (View MyPage) on Nov 16, 2010 05:52 PM
Gentlemen, few companies who got licence sold the same at a high rate and never operated their licence. Because you pay less does not give a freedom to do corruption. As per your argumentwhat ever money (greasing) being paid in for any government jobs is not a corruption. if so why we have CAG, CVC and otehrs which is a waste of money as per your view
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Sold their share, not money. Remember it is share value. It can change any time. Changing share to money is just not possible until unless company get more customer and get revenue. Long way to go..

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SHS
Re: Raja
by SHS on Nov 16, 2010 05:52 PM
After geting 2G licence the licence holder immediately sell the same to others on 10 times more the value they paid.

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Indian Fan
Re: Raja
by Indian Fan on Nov 16, 2010 05:48 PM
Good argument .But why is DMK and Raja always on the defensive and not openly challenging others in this issue .Raja could have resigned earlier and allowed a through probe in to this and once having got his name cleared could have re entered the cabinet .

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Clean
Re: Re: Raja
by Clean on Nov 16, 2010 05:57 PM
Thats what he files the affidavit and ready to face any kind of questioning,

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adrgdr adrgdr
Re: Re: Re: Raja
by adrgdr adrgdr on Nov 16, 2010 07:49 PM
Either u are a fool or Raja himself.
Go Check the 3G tariffs of tata. they are lower than 2g of BSNL.
So Raja gave spectrum to real estate agennts so that call rates can fall is it?

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Clean
Re: Re: Re: Re: Raja
by Clean on Nov 16, 2010 08:51 PM
Tata offer low, thats ok. Sunil mittal saying that he had invested so much money, hence 3G will not cheap?? what u r saying for this?

What is the problem as long as common men are getting benefit. ??? You can not say this company has to do this kind of business?

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sugumar
Re: Re: Re: Raja
by sugumar on Nov 16, 2010 06:03 PM
sizable portion of the loot has gone to Congress also.Thats the reason MMS was a silent spectator all these years.

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chandan kumar
Re: Re: Re: Raja
by chandan kumar on Nov 16, 2010 06:31 PM
hey dude,,,filing affidavits by corrupts are like eaty bada pav in mumbai...and every other politicians say every other minute that they are ready to face probe and all those bullshits...probe is in their hands man....

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kumar kathirvelu
powerful telecom lobby
by kumar kathirvelu on Nov 16, 2010 05:24 PM  | Hide replies

Why BJP was not taken to task by media when CAG pointed out in 2000. Why SC did not raise issue then. Who started this non auction method. If auction is followed will call rates be so low. Are telcos doing social service. They will recover from users. Then why target present minister. Loss due to concession in excise, loss due to concession in corporate tax etc are also corruption? Raja paid price because he is from DMK, he broke cartel lobby.

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Kishore kumar
Re: powerful telecom lobby
by Kishore kumar on Nov 16, 2010 08:34 PM
All CNN IBN, NDTV even CAG goes beyond Jaya, BJP.

See its really questionable that we want to take severe action on 67000 crores loss to GOVT by BJP in 1999 as CAG told that day .

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Hebbar R
Re: powerful telecom lobby
by Hebbar R on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 PM
Did the BJP pre-close the bid dates? Did the BJP violate the norms and give licenses to cos which had nothing to do with telecom?

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Ranji
Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment in this SCAM
by Ranji on Nov 16, 2010 05:19 PM  | Hide replies

Nationalize the companies, Guilty have to spend rest of their life in Jail and the punishment for causing loss to the Nation is : Corporate Owners and their Kin will not get any thing out of it in the Nationalizations Process.

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kongo rudy
Re: Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment in this SCAM
by kongo rudy on Nov 16, 2010 05:34 PM
well said...and who will pay the salaries for the employees of these cos and the maintenace costs? Well try do some reasoning before typing stuff on message boards.

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Ranji
Re: Re: Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment in this S
by Ranji on Nov 16, 2010 05:44 PM
Companies will run as usual. When a private company gets Nationalized, its new owner will be Government (Means we the public). It’s just ownership will change. You will get your salaries and your phones will function in normal. This should be a punishment for greedy corporate.

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selvam kaarthik
Re: Re: Re: Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment in th
by selvam kaarthik on Nov 16, 2010 06:38 PM
Be fore write ay thing we should .once it is nationalise it will go to An IAS officer. who wii enjoy every benifit and company will go to dogs.pl visit doordharshan other govt.departments for quality.

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yashrohra yashrohra
Re: Re: Re: Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment in th
by yashrohra yashrohra on Nov 16, 2010 05:50 PM
and u think people will keep working like a pvt company works.. they will work like people in govt offices... do u want that?

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sugumar
Re: Re: Re: Re: Supreme Court should pass this kind of judgment i
by sugumar on Nov 16, 2010 06:14 PM
This government is not run by Indira Gandhi.She was forthright is taking decisions.Here Sonia spends most of her time only in pampering and consoling the alliance partners.That's the reason for this bungling.

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Signs
common man
by Signs on Nov 16, 2010 05:01 PM

A common man should stay away from using such companies products. Any body who uses their product is also getting particiapted in this corruption. So stay away from these companies and their products.

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Pyma
Vote
by Pyma on Nov 16, 2010 05:00 PM  | Hide replies

For ure own regional parties to save ure culture, language from aryan invaders.. TN has been doing it for 50 yrs... and will do it for another 1000 Yrs and still TN has the highest HDI value for any BIG state in India....

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xyz
Re: Vote
by xyz on Nov 16, 2010 09:57 PM
Ur HDI is higher by looting the whole india for last 50 yrs in the name of language otherwise u would be begging in the street, u genetically negroid

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R Balasubramanian
Re: the pros and cons
by R Balasubramanian on Nov 16, 2010 05:24 PM
raja is a dalit respected like bheem rau. Whatever SC/ST, Dalits and minorities do they do it for the benefit of the country. This scam directly involves Karunanidhi and his family else why should his daughter Kanimozhi approach FM and order that Raja should not be removed and MK insisting in case Raja is removed, Kanimozhi to be placed in that place? These thick skinned, degenerated scoundrels are worse than pirates and india is ruined due to undue advantage given to the communities and castes rather than honesty and morality.

This scoundrel with 18 stooges has taken for ride one hundred billion fools and the country to ransom. This is what indian democracy is known for and constitution is written very wisely.

balasubramanian, blr


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R Balasubramanian
Re: Re: the pros and cons
by R Balasubramanian on Nov 16, 2010 05:26 PM
Raja to MK is what Sashikala to Jaya.

Balu

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Sundaram KSM
Re: Re: the pros and cons
by Sundaram KSM on Nov 16, 2010 05:17 PM
This kind of reply is expected from a Dravidian.

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