he is the first pm under whom the salaried class earning under Rs.7 lakhs per annum have got a huge sigh of relief! the bogus and jobless party (bjp) and its nda govt (notorious dacoits & associates) NEVER not even once thought of giving such a relief to the middle class! now a man earning up to 6-7 lakhs per annum will be benefitting up to rs.55000 p a! i personally think 30% tax for above 10 lakhs is still not too bad. guy earning over 10 lakhs per annum shouldnt mind paying 30% tax. Jai Hind!
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by sid sukhdial on May 14, 2010 04:07 PM
Yup, he saves us 8% more, however the cost of living due to their policies goes up by 300%. Still some idiots love UPA gov.
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by Jay singh on May 14, 2010 04:13 PM
hey man.... how do u ignore the cost cutting and disinvestment measures taken during the NDA regime, the fruits of which were born by the UPA..??? Its easy to direct verbal assault out of personal likes/dislikes...but how can u disregard the measures taken by NDA in avoiding war, reducing govt. expenses, increasing govt. treasury and establishing a Nuclear state??? Kindly be educated that the worse of Economic crisis and Terrorism has happened during the UPA tenure... Let Common sense prevail.. JAI HIND!!!
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by kieran dsouza on May 15, 2010 09:34 PM
yeah but they have failed in controlling inflation and your savings is worth SHIT now!! Also they have given NO relief to the really poor up to 3L per annum should not be paying IT at today's cost of living!!.
Politicians of any party are blood sucking parasites and never thinking of common people only themselves
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by Sagar Muniram on May 14, 2010 04:35 PM
HOwselfish, since you are falling in bracket of 6-7 lakhs you feel charging 30% to people earning above 10 lakhs is justified. thatway people earning 2-3 lakhs per annum feel charging 30% tax to even earners of 4-5 lakhs is justified.
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by Jayaraman V on May 14, 2010 04:47 PM
there is no need for Tax in the first place, if Congress arranges to get all the money stashed in Swiss, back ! why point at BJP, when Congress itself was snoring to glory till 1990 !! 1947-1990 : 43 long years wasted !!
Re: We thank Manmohan Singh...
by kieran dsouza on May 15, 2010 09:35 PM
yeah but they have failed in controlling inflation and your savings is worth SHIT now!! Also they have given NO relief to the really poor up to 3L per annum should not be paying IT at today's cost of living!!.
Politicians of any party are blood sucking parasites and never thinking of common people only
The reasoning is absolutely simple not more than 5% of this tax is spent on people who are paying it. 90% of it goes to support corrupt system and politcians who in return show us thier muscle power. 5% to Soniaji
Re: Why tax hits us .. and ppl dont comply
by united india on May 14, 2010 04:07 PM
Enough is enough...ARMY should take over this country...The politicians r killing people slowly & steadily...
Re: Why tax hits us .. and ppl dont comply
by Sanjay on May 14, 2010 04:09 PM
Tax department is now like other corporate Houses with unreasonable target of collection of Tax diregarding the rate of Inflation and Economoc condition of the country. Only the common man with limited means suffer. Hight net inviduals have there ways to reduce their tax and department officials earn from them handsomely and Politicians enjoy their life to the extreme from our earnings. When an individual strugling to meet his expenses for education IT authority or Govt doest care about you but as soon as he gets a job even before the indivdual can pay of his hand loans IT authority comes up to take their share. It is realy shameful that we hav such a Finance Ministry.
business people can play with numbers and hide profit. Its salary class who is suffering and govt cant do anything for them . once again they are taking back the reliefs. shame on them.
Re: shame on govt
by Dattaprasad Prabhu on May 14, 2010 04:01 PM
What about "Farmers'? Laloo the great farmer has escaped the far reaching hands of the law by showing the entire fodder-scam-incone as agro-income!
its always the salaried people , IPL gets a concession , with statement from Maharastra chief Minister saying its over now & we will consider it next year as they cannot tax it with retrosepective effect but salaried people did'nt get that benefit when they were taxed on FBT with retrospective effect from 1st of April 2009 , jai Ho , aam admi ki govt.
Re: why so much fury?
by Hoodibaba on May 14, 2010 03:45 PM
You pretend to be phaareign citizen for comparing India and West. Social security, Infrastructure, education, other benefits cannot be compared.
Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:49 PM
yes ofcourse cant be compared.... but people have to pay enough tax to get that... got?
Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by santosh patil on May 14, 2010 03:54 PM
forget about paying tax, in India 10 crore people are unemployed, and this number is growing, first govt has to ensure everyone should get a job, second the govt should think of flat tax
Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:59 PM
why do u blame the govt for everything, after all its u who have selected them...
Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by viras manikandane on May 14, 2010 04:17 PM
Dear Sethu Raman I agree with your views but pls understand in westernsystem tax payers money are fully paid to tax payers in the form of education, health care and unemployed youth funding programmes,etc. Children have free education and free health care are provided. For eg if some loose his job till he gets another job part of the amount he paid as tax when he was working is provided. Tell me here the goverment tax all as tax and it is not paying anything back to tax payers if their job is lost.Instead in the name of providing to poor they provide free houses, free TV , free clothing, etc.Most of this so called poors are simply selling the houses,TVs and cloths for money and come back to Road to claim from Govt. Instead if the govt spend for the tax payers money in the proper way or atleast part of it for their welfare they won't raise concerns.
Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:27 PM
don't spend much time to a person who has gone loose after doing only some R & D :-) Sorry, thats how he thinks
Re: why so much fury?
by santosh patil on May 14, 2010 03:48 PM
sethu, you will save a lot in Europe because their inflation is always under control and no price rise, but if i earn same 15 Lakhs in India i wont save much because of rising prices
Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:54 PM
I went thru all the problems in India... perhaps even more that you. The thing is... people like you think that everything can be earned by money... not believing in social structure. Thats why the richest person and the poorest in the world live side by side in India. Funny country
Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:29 PM
well, when you say Funny Contry, that itself shows that you have not been here or lived here for long. I wish you change your name to Danny or Fanny .... funny name - yours and for you only..
Re: why so much fury?
by jhonny k on May 14, 2010 03:44 PM
Atleast u get access to good service from govt in all forms... and everyone knows where the tax collection in india goes....
Re: why so much fury?
by anand on May 14, 2010 04:36 PM
dude u r underpaid.... on an average pple in Inida get more than what u r getting...and more over if ur getting 15Laks per annum then ur yearly sal is 25000 euros and for this u r not paying more than 20% i guess
Re: why so much fury?
by rahul kelkar on May 14, 2010 03:45 PM
in europe corruption is less in India minister enjoying the life on middle class peoples IT
Re: Re: why so much fury?
by antipakanticongress on May 14, 2010 03:45 PM
Not politicians, be specific man its a pocket of congress. Your name shows your love for congress government
Re: why so much fury?
by Panthera Leo on May 14, 2010 03:44 PM
In europe, your healthcare is taken care of by the governments. Not so in India. Not so in India. Food costs are almost the same in India & europe now.
Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 03:46 PM
Mr SETHU RAMAN... I guess you haven't forgotten as how India and their politicians are. Do not Compare Apples to Oranges. In Europe, you are paying the taxes.. fine.. But the government is transparently accountable for all the tax money that it receives. You are seeing the benefit for the money you pay as tax. Does it happen in India? Ok.. SIMPLE QUESTION... WHY ARE YOU IN EUROPE? CAN'T U EARN THAT 15 LAKHS HERE?
Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:48 PM
For a researcher no body pays that much money in India.... only for IT coolies u are paid more than 10 lakhs
Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:04 PM
Respected Sir - " May I know what do you do? next ..You shouldn't be using the computer and acess the e-mails or posting the messages like this if you would like to call as IT coolies. Of course I can't expect you to know that how many critical programs are being sput out of IT. I understand thatI can't expect a car owner to know the difficulty faced by the mechanics or the designers to mkae that? But its common sense... that everybody have their own issues or challenges.
Lastly, why the hell are you now commenting about the pure mind of the politicians here? Are you going to join a party like Kushboo did? :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:12 PM
Correction - You shouldn't be using the computer and acess the e-mails or posting the messages like this if you would like to call as IT coolies. Of course I can't expect you to know that how many critical programs are being churned out of IT. I understand that I can't expect a car owner to know the difficulty faced by the mechanics or the designers to make that. But its common sense... that everybody have their own issues or challenges.
Lastly, why the hell are you not commenting about the pure mind of the politicians here? Are you going to join a party like Kushboo did? :-)
Just tell me what you do... If you are in R & D, please tell me whats your subject of research and also, will you come back to India after that and settle here.
Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 04:08 PM
well u have mistaken my inner joke... I call IT as coolies to make them modest with respect to the pay they are paid
Re: why so much fury?
by sarat chandra on May 14, 2010 04:05 PM
Do you think the Indian Governemnt provides its citizens/tax payers the same facility that the Govt there be it transport, health, sanitation ...
Re: why so much fury?
by Abhinav on May 14, 2010 03:44 PM
abe lulu....... u get un-interrupted power and water supply.......good infrastructure......free medical and primary schooling.......is europe......
Re: why so much fury?
by pranesh vittal on May 14, 2010 03:43 PM
Compare the infrastructure & other benefits you might get there... Few countries even have free medical expenses ??? Do you expect any such thing here ???
Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:47 PM
Ok for all the people who are talking about infrastructure etc.... people in western world gets that, bcos of enough tax they are paying.... how would you get everything for free....?
Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by santosh patil on May 14, 2010 03:51 PM
sethu, try to understand in India the rich poor gap is too much, I think only few people earns 15 lakhs per annum in India and in India its cannot be kind of extortion that rich should feed the poor...
Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by sethu raman on May 14, 2010 03:56 PM
thats where the problem starts... rich people thinks that they earn by their hard work... thats not true, ur surviving bcos of the soceity.. so try to pay the soceity a peanut...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by Stricken Soul on May 14, 2010 04:12 PM
Mr.Sethu, I think you've gone mad after doing so much research, TAKE A BREAK
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by anand on May 14, 2010 04:44 PM
i guess most of the pple replying to this thread are working in a pvt company if not in a IT company which means all our sal what we get on hand is TDS and there is not point in us evading the tax.... so sethu utter ur words and point the right pple most of us are paying in excess of 20% tax and for this we atleast some basic infrastructure but here u drive on roads which are full of potholes....u have power for 9 to 10Hrs a day and even less in village..... corruption in every step of ur life... so u expect us to pay more tax and make this govt servents, politicians, builders, miners etc to be more richer than what they are really worth of.... and by the way how much tax are pranab mukerjee, MNS, lalu, sonia paying
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by Kool Guy on May 14, 2010 04:08 PM
Hey you are an Indian and sitting at India. Why are you blaberring so much. If you want to compare dollar to Rs forget it buddy. Go outside see their life and benefits and talk loud. Got it? And stop talking big words all understand the pain of paying Tax, you dont have to refine the ideas and better refine yours man.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by Kool Guy on May 14, 2010 04:13 PM
He he he, how can he come, he is sitting in India and blabbering big words. He seems to be Political Coolie :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why so much fury?
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:07 PM
Its frustrating to see your responses. yet.. Tell me Why don't you come to India..? Why the hell are you sitting there.. Also, please donate some money to the ppl here. I will give a reachout number. Can you give them regular peanuts?
Re: taxation
by prashanth nair on May 14, 2010 04:01 PM
it was only a draft proposal earlier.. you cant take drafts as final decisions... i dont think u can get judiciary to intervene in policy matters like this one
Re: Yes
by antipakanticongress on May 14, 2010 03:41 PM
And for those who will shout that my income will be less , i will quote here I am earning 18 Lacs yearly.
Re: Re: Re: Yes
by mahibhushan jauhari on May 14, 2010 03:52 PM
i also earn about 16 lakhs per annum and am ok with new proposal.anybody earning above 10 lakhs per annum cant be called poor.
Re: Re: Yes
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 03:50 PM
Useless fellow... If you have common sense.. you will ask one question to yourself.. "Where does the money go which we pay as tax". Or if that is not a clear question to a 18 L earning person - ask youself - "Hows the tax money being utilized by the govt of india? "
Re: Re: Re: Yes
by mahibhushan jauhari on May 14, 2010 03:56 PM
yes corruption is eating away the benefits but new roads, new trains, new power plants are coming up.instead of saying eradicate corruption you are saying continue corruption and reduce tax then it is ok for you.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Yes
by classical guy on May 14, 2010 04:34 PM
Mr nair, Can I know where are you living? Coz, if you are in India then I don't know what to say. Otherwise, please come to india and then we can have a debate in person. I am tired of responding to ppl like u. In brief, do you think the electoral process is transparent? lots of ppl have lost faith in that. instance - Mr. PC was indicated that he lost the assembly election last time. But still the decision changed in lightening time. See.. as long as the corruption is there like this.. even if you wish to elect a govt of ppl's wish its difficult. Mere luck should come
Fine.. even in canada, I guess there is a flat tax of 30%. But thing is, the medical insurance is absolutely free all citizens and also, you can see the tax money being spend in a way the citizens can see the benefit. On the contrary, our hard earned tax money goes to the making of money garlands apart from all the top - tea shop politicians looting the money - Frustrated Citizen like many
Re: Fine.. but where the hell the Tax Money is utilized?
by prashanth nair on May 14, 2010 04:08 PM
so easy to stand out and complain that things dont happen to you... get responsible people to govern .. otherwise take a plunge into politics and clean it up. before you do all that , pay ur taxes correctly :)
