I dont think we should ever compare china and India since we are two different political systems. I do not want to go into which is better but in china they will not discuss whether mono r metro rail should be there in PUne City. If they want to have something, nothing like environmentalists caring for dogs or trees come in thier way. We are democratic and proud about it. so then we have to bear with the slow prgress.
Re: progress of china
by Om Sehgal on Aug 25, 2012 01:48 PM
I agree with you and ofcource, nothing is going to speed up the process of development in our country. So let it just be so. Just hope that someday things may change. I wish people accepted the truth instead of arguing and boasting about what a great country and civilization we are.
Re: progress of china
by megakids on Jun 22, 2010 08:57 PM | Hide message
Come on, don't give your country's low grade such stupid excuses. Go to China and find out the truth. Scientific evidence and studies are carried out before any construction. They are built with speed and efficiency. And please, keep your democrazy bullshit to fool your own Indian people. It's proven to be the greatest joke, especially in your country, which is not even ready for 65 years since independence.
Re: Re: progress of china
by jaapaal maatre on Jun 24, 2010 04:56 PM
if ur chinese, let me tell u this. u r right in ur assessment about our political leadership, that they use democracy to hide their misdeeds. but dont put normal indian citizens under this category bcoz if india today has reached atleast this levels of prosperity, it is these citizens of india who are behind it and not the leadership of india. ur right, if not democracy or dictatorship or military, atleast a presdential system like USA would have helped india a lot more than a british parliamentary system. we indians are never going to accept communist/dictatorship/military leadership either. but i think a president led(elected by the people directly) leadership should do lots of good to this nation, bcoz he as an individual and the leader of this nation would be forced to be more accountable to the people and the country. In the current system no one is accountable for anything to anyone once he/she is elected for the next 5 yrs. parliamentary system has turnedout to be a curse for india.
Re: Re: Re: progress of china
by RAMESH JOSHI on Jun 26, 2010 05:27 PM
I agree with Jaapaal, in India the line between the executive and legislature is practically missing. Hence the legislatures, you call them MP or MLA, carry a lot of weight. In fact the Government depends on them otherwise it would fall. Thus the entire system becomes corrupt. We should have Presindtial system in our country.
1. Anybody who wants to serve the society (read politicians), should donate half of their complete family's property (including son's, daughter's & wife's) to the Indian union. They also should donate 50% of their yearly earnings to the Indian union. 2. No politician can become CM thrice. No politician can become a minister more than twice. 3. If a family member has become a minister, then his/her heirs cannot become ministers for the next 10 years & should serve the people/country. 4. If a minister / MLA is found to be guilty/corrupt, then his/her heirs should become disqualified for serving public. 5. Finally, if a minister/MLA is found corrupt, then they should be hanged in not less than 90 days.
Re: 5 RULES INDIA SHOULD FOLLOW
by Om Sehgal on Aug 25, 2012 01:58 PM
YOu forgot a few things..... 1. No one who has a case filed against him/her should not be allowed to contest the election until the verdict is declared. 2. If anybody is found to have been indulged in any sort of corruption case, 80% of their wealth should be confiscated and immediately sent to prison for life. 3. Government officials who are found to be negligent at work and are not working productively enough should be terminated from the job. 4. No pension should be given to any government official after retirement. 5. No person should be allowed to contest election after the age of 65years.
Re: 5 RULES INDIA SHOULD FOLLOW
by hearmenow on Jul 23, 2010 09:35 PM
This is a very good idea list and you; you, the indian people, should do something about it. Please do not come in here and shit around. let's look at what the chinese have achieved and compete and do not criticize their success jealously. If you can do it I believe India will be a better place to live.
Re: 5 RULES INDIA SHOULD FOLLOW
by hearmenow on Jul 23, 2010 09:35 PM
This is a very good idea list and you; you, the indian people, should do something about it. Please do not come in here and shit around. let's look at what the chinese have achieved and compete and do not criticize their success jealously. If you can do it I believe India will be a better place to live.
Re: 5 RULES INDIA SHOULD FOLLOW
by nandha C on Jun 21, 2010 02:40 PM
Good Thinking..
But its unfortunate that these r@gues,pigss,Demonss are still ruling and the votes are purchased year after year..Its too late..But chances are their if all politicians(Corrupted) are trapped in single building, then terrirists b@mbing them..It would be a great relief for our citizens!!!
read 2day on internet, that from 01-july-2010, shanghai-nanjing high speed train service is starting,which will cover the 300 kilometres in 56 minutes.seeing china's infrastructure development(as described above),which has led to its allround development,sometimes i feel that china's one party dictatorship is better that our very corrupt democracy.
Re: infrastructure development
by shubasrikrishna on Jun 21, 2010 11:46 AM
next month I have booked a train from Shanghai at Morning 8.00AM to Bengbu which is about 500 KM that will cover it in 2 hours. In the evening I will take a similar train from Bengbu to Zhengzhou again : 500 KM which it will cover in 2 Hours. So I do my work in bengbu ( a small city ) and travel 1000 KM in day time ( not night). Amazing ... Do you think we can do in India?
Some of my friends may oppose me, but believe my friends only criminals and corrupt people take advantage of democracy, china progressed better than india in last 50 years india would need atleast 20 years to catch up.
Re: commumnism better than democracy
by sudhir ponnala on Jul 24, 2011 05:07 PM
While India tries to catch up with China, will that country stay static. If India grows in arithmetic progression, china will grow in geometric progression!
Re: commumnism better than democracy
by k krishnan on Jun 21, 2010 07:49 AM
china was doing better than India even when both were sort of aristocracies. dictatorships of the past and present have miserably failed. the problem is the nature of people.here everyone believes in Karma and so takes whatever is dished out patiently.2)everyone is scared of power(that is politicians and gangsters)and money.3)extremely apathetic, undisciplined,treats surroundings like a giant waste basket etc(there are too many) this leads to corrupt politicians getting elected, officails skimming of more and more in collusion with politicians but all these people are highly respected(dont forget dawood was onre of the desired person in the social circuit before the blasts). so fault is not with the democracy but with the people implementing . you will see almost all the countries that have flourished re democracies the only exception being china.that is why their leaders are admirable. sure there are excesses but so are they in india to an even greater extent. this can go oon and on but unless the people change nothing can happen .so it all boils down to our culture.again many will not agree.
Re: North India must be friendly with China
by Pradip Kulkarni on Jun 21, 2010 02:27 PM
North indians following USA,UK only in case of living standard and now they want to follow China. percentage of poverty is more in this region the distance between rich & poor is big here.
Re: North India must be friendly with China
by Prasad Damodaran on Jun 21, 2010 11:17 AM
and lo it seems he has not seen beyond the Vidyas. If Delhi had not been made the capital of the country by the British it still would have remained a cowbelt area as other states in the Northern part of the country. These ppl still have the habit of making all the places dirty, like shitting near the railway tracks etc. If states like Bihar, UP,MP & Haryana is given independence then India will be a superpower.
things India need to Implement to develop else it will become more Backward
1.Strict 2 Child policy implementation.
2.Collecting Taxes from people by the Size of the Vehicle they drive.Encouraging most of the people to use public transportation to reduce traffic.
3.Not allowing anyone(especially rich) to make not more than 8 dishes in Marriages,Birthday parties and Other parties.So that Food Wastage does not occur and helps poor people to some extent.Also Total expenditure on these Parties need to restricted.
4.Not allowing people to have own houses and forcing people to stay in Apartments.so that we can save some land.
5.Strict punishments for people who are involved in Terriosm and corruption.
6.Every court case needs to cleared within 2 months the case is filed.
Re: things India need to Implement
by Southern Pride on Jun 21, 2010 07:04 AM
You have to change your thinking. Our population is proving to be a blessing. If we were not 1billion people, how would we have 300 million middle class people and how we would have kept cost low. Our problem is density not the number. India needs to spread its population. If there are no lavish spending how do you create new markets? We should give a boot to socialist/communist ideologies and transform ourselves into spending economy. Most of black money stays within India unlike other countires - that is good. True govt. doesn't get to use it on infrastructure but better than investing the wealth in some other country. Your 4,5 and 6 are valid.
China produces about 450 million tonne steel per annum whereas India produces about 50 million tonne steel per annum.So,per capita consumption of steel is very low in India.Apart from this,China is also importing huge quantity of finished steel as china considers steel is the currency of the future.China's development is visible everywhere in their landscape.Our development is visible in swiss bank accounts,gold ornaments in the neck line and hands of our women folk,in stolen money stacked in sacks and sealed under concrete plastering.
Re: .
by Chandra H on Jun 21, 2010 02:05 PM
Also China's Cement production is 1250 million Tones and India' production is less than 200 million tones....
Re: Re: .
by shubasrikrishna on Jun 21, 2010 11:23 AM
We have the human rights brigade to oppose any steel plant, any dam, any development...God save India
Our country is one of the richest mineral resources in the world for centuries but today our leaders have concentrated on exporting our national wealth to the countries like China to become themselves more rich and making the people poor.
Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our iron m
by India a on Jun 21, 2010 01:23 AM
Our Mineral resources are Very less compared to our population.
We need to have a Government which implement 2 Child policy Strictly atleast for India to develop after 50 years from now.If that is not implemented people will keep fighting between each other just for Food.
Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our iron m
by Bharat on Jun 24, 2010 03:45 PM
Especially BJP govt in KArnataka has given reddy' brother to plunder and sell the Iron ore to China
Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our iron m
by India a on Jun 21, 2010 01:38 AM
we need Freedom for religion.
But we need to implement below things Strictly.
1.Strict 2 Child policy implementation.
2.Collecting Taxes from people by the Size of the Vehicle they drive.Encouraging most of the people to use public transportation to reduce traffic.
3.Not allowing anyone(especially rich) to make not more than 8 dishes in Marriages,Birthday parties and Other parties.So that Food Wastage does not occur and helps poor people to some extent.Also Total expenditure on these Parties need to restricted.
4.Not allowing people to have own houses and forcing people to stay in Apartments.so that we can save some land.
5.Strict punishments for people who are involved in Terriosm and corruption.
6.Every court case needs to cleared within 2 months the case is filed.
Re: Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our ir
by om shanti on Jun 21, 2010 01:12 AM
less than 63.5 % iron.India is not exporting iron ore as such.These fines are generated while mining iron and a kind of burden for Indian miners as they donot know how to use the fines.China converts these fines into aggregate by sintering process before using for steel making.Now-a-days,this export has gone down drastically due to quality issues.
Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our iron m
by Ramesh Dodani on Jun 20, 2010 10:56 PM
china is not dependent on india for iron ore - is other way
Re: Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our ir
by ManiKanda Prabu on Jun 24, 2010 04:51 PM
Also, china got a bumper prize deal in Congo for valuable minerals(like copper, cobalt etc..) in 2007... For 30 yrs they can extract minerals from Congo, just for the mere > 9 billon dollar, conditional infrastruce development in congo (like building 3200 km rail line, hospitals, univ etc..) Congo is the natural wealth country in the world. (it has 24 Trillon dollar mineral wealth)... but one of the poorest country in the world.. China took advantage of this...
Re: We have to feel ashamed of ourselves for exporting our iron m
by raj mehta on Jun 24, 2010 04:50 PM
70% of worlds natural resources are in Africa !!
Re: China leads the developing world ....
by Dipak Dhebar on Jun 23, 2010 07:56 PM
In India the government itself is the biggest offender of law for example at traffic signals, especially in Mumbai nobody cares or honers them and the basic attitude reflects
1.India needs to improve public transport.Train network has always been the strength for India. 2.The Highway corridors which are getting completed in India might not be sufficient.Continuous plans have to be made. 3.Greenery has to be improved,every school kid should plant a sapling and take care of it for three years. 4.Rural development should be given importance.Migration to urban areas should be discouraged.
Re: India too slow to react to infrastructure problems
by Bharat on Jun 24, 2010 03:46 PM
How, the College goonds burn buses, BJP murders burn them with people. How can u improve transport
