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sampath
Reservations for Girls in National Level Institutions regd.....
by sampath on Oct 22, 2009 11:58 AM

Respected Madam,

We are very much impressed to your activities in the field of education as a Central Minister for Human Resources and Development. Following are the great achievements that you have initiated in the nation interest and can be remembered forever by us.

a)      Providing 8 more additional IIT’S, 9 more NITS to the existing.
b)      Proposed to provide 30 more central universities.
c)      Encouraging the participation of foreign institutions
d)      Implementation of OBC reservation at national level institutions.
e)      Conversion of 50% state quota in NITS on all India Rank bases.

Madam, we know that you are well aware of the problems being faced by the girls in getting admissions in to prestigious institutions like IIT’S / NITS / Central Universities.
Percentage of girl’s participation in these institutions is very less i.e below 10%. This is mainly because like natural monthly periodical problems which disturbs the studies which are unavoidable. However to encourage the girls in professional courses at higher studies, In our state i.e in A.P 33% reservation for ladies is existing, this was introduced by our beloved honorable Ex-Chief Minister Shri N.T. Rama Rao, from that time onwards the ladies are coming out from the state level professional courses.

To ensure girls more participation in the national level institutions also, following are the few suggestions for your kind consideration

a)      Implementation of 33% reservation in national leve

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sampath
Reservations for Girls in National Level Institutions regd.....
by sampath on Oct 22, 2009 11:54 AM

Respected Madam,

We are very much impressed to your activities in the field of education as a Central Minister for Human Resources and Development. Following are the great achievements that you have initiated in the nation interest and can be remembered forever by us.

a)      Providing 8 more additional IIT’S, 9 more NITS to the existing.
b)      Proposed to provide 30 more central universities.
c)      Encouraging the participation of foreign institutions
d)      Implementation of OBC reservation at national level institutions.
e)      Conversion of 50% state quota in NITS on all India Rank bases.

Madam, we know that you are well aware of the problems being faced by the girls in getting admissions in to prestigious institutions like IIT’S / NITS / Central Universities.
Percentage of girl’s participation in these institutions is very less i.e below 10%. This is mainly because like natural monthly periodical problems which disturbs the studies which are unavoidable. However to encourage the girls in professional courses at higher studies, In our state i.e in A.P 33% reservation for ladies is existing, this was introduced by our beloved honorable Ex-Chief Minister Shri N.T. Rama Rao, from that time onwards the ladies are coming out from the state level professional courses.

To ensure girls more participation in the national level institutions also, following are the few suggestions for your kind consideration

a)      Implementation of 33% reservation in national leve

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sampath
Reservations for Girls in National Level Institutions regd.....
by sampath on Oct 22, 2009 11:54 AM

Respected Madam,

We are very much impressed to your activities in the field of education as a Central Minister for Human Resources and Development. Following are the great achievements that you have initiated in the nation interest and can be remembered forever by us.

a)      Providing 8 more additional IIT’S, 9 more NITS to the existing.
b)      Proposed to provide 30 more central universities.
c)      Encouraging the participation of foreign institutions
d)      Implementation of OBC reservation at national level institutions.
e)      Conversion of 50% state quota in NITS on all India Rank bases.

Madam, we know that you are well aware of the problems being faced by the girls in getting admissions in to prestigious institutions like IIT’S / NITS / Central Universities.
Percentage of girl’s participation in these institutions is very less i.e below 10%. This is mainly because like natural monthly periodical problems which disturbs the studies which are unavoidable. However to encourage the girls in professional courses at higher studies, In our state i.e in A.P 33% reservation for ladies is existing, this was introduced by our beloved honorable Ex-Chief Minister Shri N.T. Rama Rao, from that time onwards the ladies are coming out from the state level professional courses.

To ensure girls more participation in the national level institutions also, following are the few suggestions for your kind consideration

a)      Implementation of 33% reservation in national level institutions

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Gajanan Mohite
All about IIT but an MS Univ. undergrad in physics won Nobel
by Gajanan Mohite on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM  | Hide replies

IIT's have produced good entrepreuners, businessmen. But a Venki Ramki from MS University Baroda , went to be the first Nobel Laureate in Chemistry. This is not to belittle IITs , but it should be an inspiration for non-IITians not to feel inferior , but to go where no man or woman has gone before , meaning to think beyond frontiers.

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PoliticallyIncorrect
Re: All about IIT but an MS Univ. undergrad in physics won Nobel
by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 03:43 PM
thanks a lot man!! that is the spirit. That is exactly I wanted to convey to all these haters down here. But they just prefer to fester in their own pool of hatred rather than being constructive. Nobody is saying that non-iitians are lesser than iitians. It is just that IITians are selected minds that is why their %age of being successful is naturally higher. that is all.

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Govind Lal
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by Govind Lal on Oct 19, 2009 07:06 PM
Remember that IITians are Indians and children Mother India. But the moment they get qualified from IIT they feel to be above all Indians. They demand more comforts, more privileges and what not... How can they expect like that from a country which is in the developing state. Let them note that their personality and knowledge have a bearing on parents, teachers, neighbours and friends. AS such they belong to the society theoretically. Let them view others as brothers and sisters. AS they grow higher let them be more humble. That is what our culture demand.

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Govind Lal
IITians and India
by Govind Lal on Oct 19, 2009 09:20 AM  | Hide replies

We are proud of the IITians. After all they are products of India. They went out of India for opportunities. Their first intention was to make wealth. Of course 'desire' is the motivating force for progress. Let them note that they could apply their skill because of the training in IIT. Remember IITs were built using the scarce resources we had at that time. Intention was to build India. But the people came out from the IITs were lured by others. Remember up to 1968 H1 B visa was limited (for India) to just 100 (One hundred) a year. It was gradually raised to larger number. The reason was just to retard our progress. Men who passed out of these IITs started clamouring for comforts etc. When India could not afford to provide them the comfort demanded, they started moving to foreign countries. Now they preach development strategies from far away places without knowing the parameters prevailing in India. My suggestion is that they should stop this approach. If they are so patriotic let them come to India and at least stay for five years, learn the parameters and make suggestions. They forgot the 'self of India'. Recollect it. Then talk.
Read the article "Myth and reality in India-China relations"Subramanian Swamy. "For at least two millennia, and until about 300 years ago, these two countries were considered by the then prevailing criteria as the most developed in the world, accounting for about 50 per cent of the world’s GDP. .......they became the world’s poorest nations."

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Govind Lal
Re: IITians and India
by Govind Lal on Oct 19, 2009 09:21 AM
We are aware that there are influential quarters here who propagate your ideas.
Look globalization and free market economics is applicable only in a field of almost equal competitors. Remember the rule 'let the fight be between equals'. The parameters you use is the GDP etc. Know that the inventor of this model of governance did furnish its limitations to the govt of the day.
Do not preach the philosophy of 'live on loans'. It will end up in phenomena like MELT DOWN.
Do not advice us to use false data for project appraisals. The case in question is the Ndeal. Is it not a debt trap? To know the debt trap read messages in discussion board under "Chidambaram argues for faster reforms, inclusive growth" rediff 6.10.09
Do not encourage India to import professionals from abroad. Do not advice us to Open MEDIA and LEGAL profession to foreign corporates.
There is a perpetual COMPETITION in the world between nations. This fact has a LATENT content that every nation will try to bring down another nation. Not by force but by manipulations. The govt should try to improve our system with our own resources including human resources as far as possible. Look at the schools coming up in various parts of the country with foreign labels and even ownership. Many of teachers are foreign origin. Are we crazy after colopowers just like the 1700 and 1800? Do not let the colopowers colonize India again.


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n s
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by n s on Oct 19, 2009 01:31 AM

DEC-Digital Equipment Corp head a conference room at their world HQ called IIT room. Someone said oh illinois inst of technology, the other one said no indian institute of technology which indeed it was. This was at least 25 years ago.

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PoliticallyIncorrect
mr. sanjiv.....
by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 18, 2009 09:08 AM  | Hide replies

it is not about patriotism, that is the official vow that every person joining IIT have to take. It is IIT's vision.

ya why to build dams, lets feed poor, why to have space programmes, lets feed poor, why to have army, lets feed poor. But how long can govt feed unproductive poor people. it is both that govt should do, one, to feed the poor, two, to give them education opportunity so that they doesn't always depend on help.

dude I don't know which company do you work for, may be some call center where IQ doesn't even matter. But believe me or not, there are jobs where IITians are genuinely needed. Ask that to Bill Gates, Narayan Murti etc.

I don't knwo what an average indian mean but still since you are asking evidence here it is..
unconventional power projects like small hydro, solar and wind are researched in IIT Delhi and are operational in many villages.
Sun the company which has broke the monopoly of Microsoft in software market was started by an IITian. So many startups are in place due to IITians. Even if they moved outside, so many of them are venture capitalist now, funding indian startups. And instead of going on and on about it, I would say that if IITians of 60s and 70s wouldn't have gone to USA and proved themselves there, probably you wouldn't have a job to afford an internet connection today.


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PoliticallyIncorrect
Re: mr. sanjiv.....
by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 18, 2009 09:08 AM
Which indian company is lesser than MNCs, tell me. Reliance, Tata, ITC, Mittals, NTPC, IOCL, BPCL, Infosys..... which of these companies profits are not at par with international standards. But still they don't compete even with the smallest MNCs. So the simple rule is, if you pay penuts, you get monkeys.

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raj bhatia
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by raj bhatia on Oct 18, 2009 10:38 AM
But one must accept the fact that these lessons have been taught by MNCs to pay proper otherwise exploitation is still rampant in the industry.

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raj bhatia
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by raj bhatia on Oct 18, 2009 10:42 AM
The so called college selection is process of screwing the new comers and Indian cos. get bonds and all that signed and exploit the new comers who are legally not very sound. Infosys is leading such exploitation. If you look at the total process, they have made a money minting machine for themselves.

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PoliticallyIncorrect
Re: mr. sanjiv.....
by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 18, 2009 02:26 PM
and yes mr. sanjiv, even if you are defending your hate by saying "hey, I only mean the iitians who left India". For your information, no country can develop by being a frog of the well. British ruled the world because they sent their people out. Pak has a nuclear program today because that scientist of them worked outside. We have technical ties with so many universites today because we have indians working in them. If we send so many engineers to America, we also take their technology in so many fields.

and yes, In India research infrastructure is still nothing compared to west, so if you want some substantial research to come out, you will have to go out there in the wider pond.

and even after reading so many success stories of IITians on rediff recently, even now if you are festering in your own pool of hate, just fudge off. India needs constructive thinkers, not destructive haters.

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Sanjiv
Re: mr. sanjiv.....
by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 07:38 PM
PoliticallyIncorrect first of all there is nothing called mr.sanjiv in world of english so mr is used either with last name (if you know) else it is not to be used.

you said "so this is the official vow that every person joining IIT have to take. It is IIT's vision." as you said this is official and is IIT's vision if you dont mind may i know how may IITian (in today's date) make it as there mission or they are just word's to them?

I am really surprised by the level of knowledge you have about india. The whole story started with Independece in 1947. At that this india was not self dependent and we have millions of people so challange in front of goverment was to provide them food and that was start of "Green Revolution" and parallely our Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru’s vision was to create "self dependent india" so IITs were created to train scientists and engineers, with the aim of developing a skilled workforce to support the economic and social development of India in 1947 so that we can bring "Industrial revolution in India" but i feel sorry to say it is not IITian who made it possible. When an average indian who was working HARD in industries in india and pushed the sensex from 1000 to 22000 (nifty) how many IITians participated, when india needed them at that time they were to busy in there life style in US?? and now after 20 - 25 years of had work (by an average indian) our counrty is on growth patten and at this point of time...continues...

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Sanjiv
Re: Re: mr. sanjiv.....
by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 07:41 PM
IITian want to come back to india and show there importance as contributors in india's growth??


PoliticallyIncorrect first of all i would like to tell you i do not work for any call center and secondly it was arrogant to say that "IQ dosen't matter for people who work in call center" they are indians and if someone has this kind of in his brain for fellow indians then i would say he should die (My personal option)


YES, i agree only IITian who really contributed in growth of india is "Narayan Murti" but country's growth never happens because of 1 sector. I would say Dhirubhai Ambani's contribution was equal in the growth and he was not IItian.


Bill Gates who headed Microsoft as CEO and chief software architect always said there is need of IT professional for USA's growth. BTw just for my knowlede can you please refer me to the article where he mentioned need of IITian? that would be a huge favor.


On software front i am again amazed to know "SUN" which i used to think is an open source code is actually not an open source code but belongs to an IITian it is some knowledge thanks for sharing this valuable information.


dude you stated something about i not paying for internet. ARPAnet was created in 1969 which grew in internet and can you please explain what was the contribution of IITian in developing internet do you mean to say that IITians were in US ARMY?

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Sanjiv
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by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 07:42 PM
And about your comment how i can pay well if i can shell out money in form of taxes which IIT uses for providing subsidised education dude i can pay my bills


Yes, you are correct IITian of 60 and 70 has many setup in silicon valley in US but may i know just 25 startups where they funded as VC in india in past 25 years.


yes, you were commented about company where i work well at this time it may not be world's # 1 company but surely it is # 1 in INDIA and 4 IItians are dotted line reporting to me and believe me they are most arrogent and egoistic people i have seen in my career who dont know how to respect there co-workers.


I do not know about all IITians but whatever experience i had with IItians has not been plesent at all and that has forced me to think that "These are people who we trusted that will make a little diffrence in our life" to me IIT was one of the best but with time it has changed to just any other graduation institute of india who may want to consider including moral science as a subject LOL.


Hope you had a great diwali.:)


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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 18, 2009 08:57 PM
yaar, you just didn't get the point, which was expected from you...

1. The IITians of 60s and 70s went to USA and proved what indians are capable of, that is why so many MNCs lured into outsourcing to India, which by the way is creating lakhs of jobs in India.

2. of course you've never seen any IIT, they have at least 24 credits(around 7 courses) in moral sciences necessary for every student to complete the degree. Probably you don't get along your IITian subordinates because of your attitude and hate towards them, I've seen managers like you in my career.

3. SUN's code is open source of course but it was started by Vinod Khosla, an IITian, and it was his generous decision of him to make it open source.

4. paying for internet was just a metaphor, which of course your brain didn't understand and took it literaly.

5. the growth of india of course has a fair share by IITians. Just do a little research about social and otherwise enterpreneurs who happens to be ex-IITians, before talking senseless things.

And from your absense of common sense you have already proved that you stands nowhere near even an average IITian. No wonder your subordinates make your fun.

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Sanjiv
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by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 11:23 PM
PoliticallyIncorrect yaar you are running away from the reality. Truth is bitter.

Neither i will understand your view point and nor you will accept the reality so it wil be total waste to discuss with you anyway

hmm you may be correct but Mr. Khosla i know who was involved with SUN was a graduate from Stanford University in 1980, Khosla along with his Stanford fellows Scott McNealy, Andy Bechtolsheim, and a UC Berkeley masters degree holder named Bill Joy founded Sun Microsystems. Khosla left Sun in 1985.

Neways hope you has a blast on diwali.


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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 AM
I am not running away, you are the one, who is blabbering nonsense. You stopped discussing most of the points raised by you in your last post, which makes me think that you haven't got any argument on them.

yup you will never understand my viewpoint. I always knew that. And you don't wanna come out of delusion and want to perceive it as reality. So be it. Ya Vinod Khosla was from Stanford Univ, however that doesn't change the fact that he graduated from IIT delhi too. reading wikipedia is easy my friend, comprehending the knowledge with common sense is difficult.

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Sanjiv
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by Sanjiv on Oct 19, 2009 02:44 AM
1. The IITians of 60s and 70s went to USA and proved what indians are capable of, that is why so many MNCs lured into outsourcing to India, which by the way is creating lakhs of jobs in India.

My reply --> This statement shows lack of maturatity in your thinking. I agree that ppl who came from india in 1960's - 1970's were mainly the one who were involved in the start - ups in silicon valley (california) but there is NO truth in this statement that "MNCs lured into outsourcing to India, which by the way is creating lakhs of jobs in India."

MNC's came to india because of cheep and educated labour. I really do not know from where you are getting the fact. In 1960's - 1970's - 1980's - 1990's and 2002 - 2006.

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Sanjiv
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by Sanjiv on Oct 19, 2009 02:45 AM
An American IT profissional was getting around $ 100 per hour. if you calculate the $ rate in 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's it was around $ 1 = 45 (most of the time)

Now calculate this: (All figure are pre- tax and figures depend on taxes)

During that time an american in IT was getting $ 100 for 1 hour means an American in IT waas earning Rs 4500 per hour

Average working time in a month is 160 hours that mean = 160 * 100 = $16000 (monthly drawing) means in indian Rs 720000 per month

so yearly package of american in IT was 16000 * 12 = $ 192000 (yearly package) means in indian Rs 8640000 per year.

In india a normal salary of am indian in IT is Rs. 50000 (Per month) that means 600000 (Yearly)

Suppose i have 1000 employees in my company in america that means i will be paying 16000 * 1000 = $ 16000000 (per month) and when we convert into indian Rs it comes to Rs, 720000000

It means yearly in salary i am giving out $ 16000000 * 12 = $ 1920000000 that means in indian Rs. 8640000000000 (Per year)

As you are aware we talk about any company American MNS or indian MNC everyone's moto is to make profit by way of cost - cutting. While in US in have to shell Rs. 8640000000000 (Per year) on salary why not i explore other parts where i can get cheap labour with quality and india was the preference because of its geographical and econimical condition.

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Sanjiv
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by Sanjiv on Oct 19, 2009 02:46 AM
well if i hire 2000 people to work for me in india rather than 1000 in US then i have to shell out 600000 * 2000 * 12 = Rs, 14400000000

This directly means saving of Rs. 862560000000 means $ 191680000000 (yearly)


Now indian economy is getting better compared so companies in US are not finding it of any use to exploring new destination has begun. The next fav. destination will be china or srilanka who ever can producr IT folks in masses. As far as i know Microsoft has alrady started a development center in China.

So do not live under assumption that because of IITians lakhs of jobs are created but yes i agree top most IITians and non IITians brain's participated in minting money on this transaction



2. of course you've never seen any IIT, they have at least 24 credits(around 7 courses) in moral sciences necessary for every student to complete the degree. Probably you don't get along your IITian subordinates because of your attitude and hate towards them, I've seen managers like you in my career.

My reply --> This is great to know that there are 24 credits for moral science but seem many people just forget the learning once they come out of the institute and never implment that in practical life.

It is not that i do not get along with IITians but yes, it is true i do not get along with any himan who is arrogang and egoistic and unfortunatly the count of such person's are high. :)

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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 10:01 AM
no need to go gaga over your economic knowledge(from internet, or if you did all those posts and calculations yourself, I believe you don't have a job right now.). I know that now US MNCs are coming here due to that, but then, why not China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, they too have colleges like our regional colleges, large unemployed population, hack they will work for even lesser? they have even cheaper labour. Before pioneers went out there, India was thought of as a country of snake charmers and pagan practices. It is those people to whom we owe the changed image of india. no thanks to you for shrugging off so many people's contribution just because you want to have a purpose in life, like hate. And ya I am not lying, I've really seen people like you in my career, who are frustrated every day because someone else is being appericiated. I've seen managers who will mistreat IITians due to their own bias.

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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 10:07 AM
and ya, you are not working with arrogant people. You are just afraid of criticism, every time you see someone having a laugh in corridor, you think they are laughing at you. I am not a psychologist, but that is evident from your previous posts that you lack in common sense, you didn't understand any indirect meaning until made clear with all the words, you couldn't get any sarcasm, metaphors etc. and probably you don't get most of the jokes made around you and feel left out.

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Govind Lal
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by Govind Lal on Oct 19, 2009 09:35 AM
This thread looks very interesting.
"And from your absense of common sense you have already proved that you stands nowhere near even an average IITian. No wonder your subordinates make your fun." Where from you learnt to use such language in a forum like this. Except some bad ones here. You are supposed to be from an IIT.
Argument that MNCs turned to India because of IITians is half truth. Vasco-da-Gama came to India for business. Business men look for products and resources. They will come to such places just by attractions....
Read my postings too




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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 11:24 AM
dude, being an IITian doesn't mean that I can't even point out someone's lack of common sense specially when he is talking sensless crap about IIT itself.

Vasco-da-gama came to india only after so many indian people spread the fame of india and its wealth and spices. that is different that it eventually backfired.

Besides did you even read the story above? it nowhere compares IITians to non-IITians, nowhere says a word of criticism to anybody. Rediff just reported that they had a meet in USA.

It is haters like you who just go ape by the mere name of IIT and starts posting venom, and then you lectures me about decency, what an irony!!

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ASHISH KUMAR
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by ASHISH KUMAR on Oct 19, 2009 04:53 PM
This politicaly incorrect lacks common sense
In forbes list of top indians, 80% of indian are non IITians.
Dhirubai ambani, Azim prem ji, Tata, All 7 nobel prize indian wiiners, Abdul Kalam,Kurien, Maselkar(Present day greatest scientist of India), Many top enterprrnurs of India, CEO's of india who changed the face of coutry are Non IITian. offcousre if 3,000 engineers are getting produced from IIT every year , u will also have IITains at big position.Whats great in that. This all nonesense hyping done by ex IITians & certain section of media/socitety. It is detrimental for development of country. there is no develop country in the world where any one partuicular institution is given so much weigthage. It shows that we are still in 19th centtury. Stop this nonsense hyping of IIT & just treat them as one of the good institute for graduation & nothing more

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Govind Lal
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by Govind Lal on Oct 19, 2009 07:10 PM
You mistook me. I am not an IIT hater. You may read MY postings under "An IITian's open letter to the prime minister" in rediff

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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 05:43 PM
yes nobody is treating them more than one good institute, but it is the inferiority complex and envy of people like you which makes this such a big issue.

We never said that non-iitians are any lesser. It is you guys who keep saying that IITians are worth nothing.

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PoliticallyIncorrect
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by PoliticallyIncorrect on Oct 19, 2009 05:45 PM
the basic thing is that the hours that you put into JEE preparation, and that faliures still haunts you, is it so? just move on dude. The people which you mentioned are the ones who didn't envy IITians and moved on towards their goal, that's why they reached somewhere.

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vivek chaubey
hey all
by vivek chaubey on Oct 17, 2009 09:29 PM  | Hide replies

Brand IIT represents India globally with all the respect and dignity. Its a wonderful place to spend college life. I simply love my college.

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Sanjiv
Re: hey all
by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 12:24 AM
that was touching that you love your college...but i m really surprised how you draw a conclusion that IIT is India's representative globally?

I am an Indian and i refuse to take IIT as my representative globally. leave globally just let me know IITs contribution to INDIAN growth.

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mank singh
Re: Re: hey all
by mank singh on Oct 18, 2009 06:31 AM
that just shows ur hatred and frustration towards IITs..keep cribbing till you die

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Sanjiv
Re: Re: Re: hey all
by Sanjiv on Oct 18, 2009 08:21 AM
mank singh my hatred and frustation is not against IITs but it is against those IITian who get educated on indian tax payers money and then leave there own country to serve some other country.

Dude cumon prove me wrong by answering my simple question "leave globally just let me know IITs contribution to INDIAN growth" and if you cannot answer then do introspection and then talk...

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vivek chaubey
Re: Re: Re: Re: hey all
by vivek chaubey on Oct 19, 2009 07:27 AM
sanjiv...you are a big time psycho...how many indians work for the government organisations only who are responsible for public welfare??a private firm (indian or global)is only bothered about money....take examples of infosys,reliance,wipro,and tcs...they get all the money after serving foreign clients....so how non iitians have contributed to india's growth(dont include our respected defence and farmers)...those who are talented...really dont need iits to survive...so dont bother about tax payers money....moreover iits get more from thr alumni than govt. peanuts....iits have created this brand over a period with strong and effective management....as far as your contribution to india is concerned....i will give you my example...i am working in an oil psu where i have given minimum 15 process related suggestions and 10 HR related suggestions...all ignored because people are corruptive and they wont be able to make money....atleast iitians dont need to do allt hese things for money....they are respected and get everything in life with thr hard work....so dont compare anybody with iit students.....they are simply class apart and iits are global....nobody cares if you dont want to understand

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hey all
by ASHISH KUMAR on Oct 19, 2009 05:03 PM
Mr chauvey
Keep ur inferity complex only with urself.
There are thousand of Non IITians who are equally intelligent.
U mean to say abdul Kalam, Maselakar, Indian nobel prize winner, Ambani etc are not intelligent people because they didn't go to IIT.
With ur narrowminded mindset & limited knowledge u are exposing ur IQ level. IIT is a top class college but not nessarily the only means of intelligence. It is in your preconcieved & corrupt mind. U must be from NI & deserve to work in PSU for whole life.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: hey all
by ASHISH KUMAR on Oct 19, 2009 04:58 PM
Manka singh it shows ur arrogance as if u are einsteen.
U look an average IQ guy(may be passed from IIT) & much inferior to many top achievers who have not studied in IIT.
No one will give u any additional respect just because u are from IIT. There are hundreds of non IITians who are doing equally well or better than u in all aspect of life.
Keep ur so called superioty complex(in actual its inferity complex) with u & keep cribbing till u leave on this planet.

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