Acquiring high value land for throw away price (may be 1,000 times lesser than that of market value), Infy is finding the way to utilise (temporarily) the land, before they make huge money out of selling the same (may be after a decade or so).
RE:Running an IT company like resort and in future Real Estate Business
by suresha ramachandra on Feb 17, 2007 04:21 PM
you are correct, these much hyped IT companies would have got land at throw away prices, enjoy all the media highlights, tax free holidays. one should just see outside these companies's campus, thousands of people do not have even shelter to live, these people enjoy. Obviously not developing any rocket science.
By the way how much rediff would get if they publish pro-infosys articles, i am sure there is some fixing.
what a crap is this article is....It is really pathetic to see that you concentrate only on the Infosys company. For heavens sake there are a number of other companies who offer more than these benefits said above...why dont u do a comparison rather.....im a lidl astonished as to what standards the articles of rediff are falling to.....
while one must give credit for these companies for generating jobs, one must remember that these companies are just the software equivalent of sweatshops. the quality of work given to such companies is terrible and not much is expected from them anyway. it should be noted that though these are revenue generators, these have no research units in themselves. also these companies would be shameless enough to use open source stuff but would not think of hosting a mirror for any open source website. typical baniya indian mentality. therefore though these companies may boast of incomes, their contribution to research is nil(except for a few scholaeships here & there) and therefore their real contribution in terms of great products/ideas is zero. these companies just satisfy the middle class greed for moeny like reliance and earn india a bad name becaus eof the monkey coders.
RE:what nonsense
by anirban basu on Feb 18, 2007 03:22 AM
Sniping, I dont know what you meant by 'monkey coders' but you are missing the real point here. Infy and for that matter any other software company in India have made it big as an 'application software' company and these companies are instrumental in making India and Indians the first choice in this field all over the world. Development of products is not in the scheme of things for most of these companies. Thus your assumption that a company is great only if it makes 'great products' is completely flawed. Infy, TCS etc. has done the same thing in software world as the Chinese and South East Asians have done in manufacturing. So before you belittle the work of 'coders', think whether you are 'world's best' in your work (dont what your profession is), because 'Indian coders' are best in their field.
I remember a famous saying (used in movie Lakshya also) that it does not matter whether you are a lawn mower or scientist, what matters is whether you excel in your field or not. Hope you got the message....
RE:what nonsense
by on Feb 17, 2007 08:37 PM
Hi Sniping,
I agree with you on few things that you mentioned. I agree that there is little/no contribution on software product line from India. I would like to Indian software/hardwarew product company (like an Micorsoft, Oracle, Intel, Broadcom, etc), which makes industry leading products in the various market segments. Also, I have been thinking of giving back to the society for helping me become a good engineer. Let me know what open source mirrors sites you have in mind. I will fund it and get it hosted in Hyderabad or Chennai. (I currently have gnu products on my mind, but I am not sure how popular these products are in India).
RE:Attraction and retention
by sniping... on Feb 17, 2007 03:36 PM
experts? dont amke me laugh. passing aout from all sorts of ridiculous colleges with degrees in mining metallurgy and IT experts?sure there are a few but dont generalise everyone as "expert" because of these few.
RE:RE:Attraction and retention
by on Feb 18, 2007 01:50 AM
Hello Sniping - What in the world is wrong with getting degrees in Mining, Metallurgy and other such branches? I've been in IT field for 15 years and come across numerous IT architects and experts in developed countries of North America and Europe, who are just high school pass-outs. It's your IQ, intelligence and how you leverage your experience that determines your success. Getting a computer science degree from IITs is not the sole criteria to be an 'IT expert'.
RE:RE:Attraction and retention
by on Feb 17, 2007 08:42 PM
Well, IMO, it doesn't matter what college and/or what education background a person comes from before joining an IT company. What does matter is the commitment to excel and meet the following 2 things .... 1) Meeting the commitments 2) Meeting the quality metrics And achieving these is a tight rope walk, and needs a lot of commitment..... In my personal experience working with Indian engineers/programmers for a short duration last year, most programmers don't take the above 2 things seriously.....
RE:fun
by on Feb 17, 2007 08:45 PM
I agree with you ... I have been in this IT industry (in US) for 7-8 years now. And almost all the companies I worked for had great facilities, but I have never found time to go use them.....
This is hilarious.... Wasnt there a stupid article last week as to how Infosys intranet is the world's best of some such crap!? Yes, Infofsys does have best office facilites so that the thousands of employees on bench can be retained and entertained, while they dont have anything to do ! FOlks, this is another one from Infosys's effecient but obvious PR cell
RE:Another one from Infosys PR cell
by Tanmoy Roy on Feb 18, 2007 01:11 AM
Agreed that these articles are just place fillers. Still these articles also showcases the IT scenario in India. And those guys who think they are being read in India are doing big mistake. These articles provide a picture which attracts foreign attention. So instead of finding how companies are paying up to have articles like this why not pay a visit to their campuses to justify it? And speaking about working hours and benches can you show me a single company where this things are not mainatained. A company to attain CMM-i level has to maintain a considerable bench strength. All the companies do that. And working hrs? I really do not know which company allows its employees to get salary for not working.
RE:RE:Another one from Infosys PR cell
by Roger junkie on Feb 18, 2007 06:54 AM
Wondering how CMM-i and bench strength are related... which KPA requires considerable bench strength?? I might like to leverage it for some time and take some time off.... TCS is a CMM 5 commpany and their unstated policy is NOT to have any bench at all and strive very hard for that, they want to bill each and every Associate...
RE:RE:RE:Another one from Infosys PR cell
by Nan on Feb 18, 2007 09:23 AM
Bench strength has nothing to do with CMM. However, bench strength is a critical parameter to be able to grow your business. In other words, if you get a large project that requires you to staff 100 engineers at a short notice of couple of weeks, you can't start the project if you don't have bench strength. I dont believe there is any difference in bench strength of Infy, TCS, Wipro and all fast growing IT firms.
